FBI Raids Radio Show Studio after Report of Illegal Child Porn

On March 13 a popular radio show Free Talk Live reported the FBI had been running illegal child pornography websites on an on-going basis. The episode can be listened to from this link: Source www.freetalklive.com...

On March 20 the FBI raided a studio house of the show to seize computers, with anonymous sources claim are for a child pornography investigation.
Source: thegarrisoncenter.org...

I speculate that someone connected to the FBI used an open Wi-Fi connection to download child porn on their residence for the specific purpose of getting this house raided! Whether or not they would plant child porn on these computers is another question. The article implies multiple people live at the residence, so perhaps this would give them a blank check to imprison everyone connected to the residence. Laws are quite draconian in the US where you can be imprisoned because someone downloaded child porn using your open WiFi connection from what I have been told.

a reply to: centarix

Or someone did it and of course wouldn't admit it.

You can't rule that out. Believe it or not there are actually people who download kiddie porn, that is a fact of life.

a reply to: centarix

Who the heck uses open wifi these days?

Why skip over the idea these people were just actually doing it?

Guess since these guys are libertarians they would never break the law...

a reply to: centarix

You think the laws for kid porn are draconian...how about they are too lax imo.

They deserve what they get and probably even more, but that is for a different discussion.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: centarix

Or someone did it and of course wouldn't admit it.

You can't rule that out. Believe it or not there are actually people who download kiddie porn, that is a fact of life.

I have a question...

If you are looking at adult porn site and some of it pops up.

Can you be arrested if you just viewed it ?

A couple times I wanted to throw my PC into the shower.

So, is accidentally viewing considered downloading ?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Oh, so if your friend downloads kiddie porn on your internet connection you go to prison for it because it was your connection, you're okay with that, and don't find it at all draconian?

a reply to: whyamIhere

Sorry that wouldn't happen,you don't just stumble upon this stuff. There is a reason why it is on the dark web.
You have to actively search for it.

If it was one person in a house they will be able to see that, until then they are going to search it all. Sucks that your roommate decided to look at child porn but if you had nothing to do with it you will be fine.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

This is true--when I was a paralegal in the military, a CID (Criminal Investigation Division) agent got convicted of child porn. He had it on his government and home computer, and admitted that neither was case-related. Of course, he admitted it AFTER it was proven that it was there for personal reasons.

a reply to: centarix

Why are you sold that is the case already??

Sure it is possible that it was only one person, and if that is the case I highly doubt anyone else will go to prison. Now if they knew he/she was doing it, and how much involvement you have in it then it could be a different story.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: centarix

Or someone did it and of course wouldn't admit it.

You can't rule that out. Believe it or not there are actually people who download kiddie porn, that is a fact of life.

(Also a reply to Sremmos80)
Sorry but that isn't something that can be a conclusion that can be drawn, unless their were off-site backups by a third party. The radio show complained the FBI was running online child porn websites and nine days later they are raided for child porn. Obviously that is a conflict of interest where even if there was no porn on the website the known child pornographers at the FBI could have simply put some of their pictures on a Free Talk Live computer. So, I can rule that out unless there is a 3rd party backup to show otherwise.

Is the timing there suspicious?

a reply to: whyamIhere

No prosecutor would proceed with charges for accidental viewing. In fact, I think (but could be wrong) that you actually have to store the images or videos on your computer in order for it to be considered downloaded. But these types of laws change constantly and probably differ from state to state.

It's the cases that are really, without a doubt, chronic child-porn watchers or downloaders that get prosecuted.

But, you could always ask Jared...just write him a letter in prison, as I'm sure he'd love some new reading material.

Let me get this straight...
A radio show discovers and reports their findings to an audience of their radio show and less than a week later they themselves are raided along with an accusal of possessing or looking at child porn?! Does anybody else see a reason to scratch their heads here. Do we charge the DA and cops who prosicute the crime because they viewed the same material? I find it fishy that the FBI would be accused of running the sites in a journalistic fashion and in less than seven days their accusers are arrested for what sounds like viewing material that the FBI itself was responsible for making available. We have never seen that before. If that is indeed what is going on here... If these monsters are guilty of destroying innocence then sting them up! If they are getting set up, ishts gonna be real bad for them, you do not want the FBI to even know you exist yet be the loudest thing on their radar and pointing a finger over airwaves is pretty loud!

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: centarix

Who the heck uses open wifi these days?

Why skip over the idea these people were just actually doing it?

Guess since these guys are libertarians they would never break the law...

Actually using open WIFI gives you plausible deniability and makes it harder for the Government to pin stuff on you. I would definitely blame the FBI for uploading the images. I find the idea of FBI corruption the more likely scenario and sticking 'enemies of the state' with 'child porn' has in fact has been offered as a 'better alternative' than assassination by our very own Government.

a reply to: Metallicus

I thought that most people knew that child porn was the go-to accusation for the FBI/DHS when they have someone they want to take out (criminally)? They never have to worry about losing in the court of public opinion when it comes to child porn accusations because very little people question it.

originally posted by: charolais
a reply to: Metallicus

I thought that most people knew that child porn was the go-to accusation for the FBI/DHS when they have someone they want to take out (criminally)? They never have to worry about losing in the court of public opinion when it comes to child porn accusations because very little people question it.

Exactly.

They also use 'unsubstantiated allegations of sexual misconduct' to keep the rogue politicians and other political enemies in line. Just ask Herman Cain.

a reply to: whyamIhere

If you are looking at adult porn site and some of it pops up.

You must be looking at some questionable sites if that happens.

Can you be arrested if you just viewed it ?

If your not downloading, and uploading, or paying for it...probably not, but if that were to happen get a good lawyer.

So, is accidentally viewing considered downloading ?

Not at all, unless you physically download it...viewing is not downloading.

a reply to: centarix

Oh, so if your friend downloads kiddie porn on your internet connection you go to prison for it because it was your connection, you're okay with that, and don't find it at all draconian?

You aren't sent to prison unless you have downloaded kiddie porn...video or photo...and they find it on your computer.

Same as when someone steals your credit card and buys things only to get caught...your not held responsible for what was bought with your credit card without your consent.

And As I said there should be tougher laws concerning these scumbags...so what they get IMO isn't enough.

If it were up to me what you consider draconian would be a tip toe through the daisies compared to what I would do with them.

Sorry that's just how I feel about those who are involved in anything that has to do with kiddie porn.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: whyamIhere

If you are looking at adult porn site and some of it pops up.

You must be looking at some questionable sites if that happens.

Can you be arrested if you just viewed it ?

If your not downloading, and uploading, or paying for it...probably not, but if that were to happen get a good lawyer.

So, is accidentally viewing considered downloading ?

Not at all, unless you physically download it...viewing is not downloading.

Ahh! But in order to view it it has to get downloaded into your browser's temporary files. Catch 22 me thinks!

originally posted by: whyamIhere
So, is accidentally viewing considered downloading ?

Technically, it's downloading, as the browser has to download the images before showing them, but I doubt anyone can be arrested just by having one or two images in their browser's cache.

Regarding the opening post, this case has been talked about by many people, not just by this obscure radio show.

a reply to: Metallicus

Actually using open WIFI gives you plausible deniability and makes it harder for the Government to pin stuff on you.

Pretty sure it doesn't work like that, there are many other fingerprints of what you do on the internet, that is why people use Tor.

I am not saying it isn't possible that the FBI would set someone up, just this immediately skipping the possibility that some one actually did this and going straight to "THE FBI SET THEM UP!" gets old. Also highly doubt they are enemies of the state.