Deadly Attacks on Brussels airport, metro station kill around 20: Belgian media

a reply to: Mianeye

That is what i find most interesting just now given how open EU boarders are have they been delivered from ISIS directly or did they make them themselves then if they did make them how did they learn to do it, did they go to some training camp.

I suspect that they made them in France and transported them into Belgium.

a reply to: Mianeye

Where?

There isn't a city of any great size anywhere in the world that you can't get this sort of stuff if you know the right people in the wrong places. Thriving black markets exist everywhere for weapons, especially if military bases are nearby.

There's always someone willing to sell to anyone for the right price.

Why Belgium, I wonder? Are they that much of a softer target then any other country in Europe?

I suppose they are, since many European countries have fringe would be "freedom fighters" extent, or they've been attacked before and are alert for it...or both.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Mianeye

Where?

There isn't a city of any great size anywhere in the world that you can't get this sort of stuff if you know the right people in the wrong places. Thriving black markets exist everywhere for weapons, especially if military bases are nearby.

There's always someone willing to sell to anyone for the right price.

Why Belgium, I wonder? Are they that much of a softer target then any other country in Europe?

I suppose they are, since many European countries have fringe would be "freedom fighters" extent, or they've been attacked before and are alert for it...or both.

I read 2 articles on Sky News, the first dealing with IS bomb-making skills, and the second, and scariest to me, is an in-depth look at an IS Lab. The rudimentary weapons used in the past have given way to technologically modified weapons systems to be used on the non-believers. The ground-to-air missile systems discussed and their possible use on civilian aircraft are future nightmares.
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Brussels explosions, March 22, 2016 22m Hospital official: Bombs used in Brussels airport attack contained nails; victims at Leuven hospital being treated for fractures, burns, deep cuts - NBC News

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a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

Their allowed to have their own country carved out of parts of two countries the US has destabilized.

a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

That, too. There are probably any number of ex-military/intelligence types working for Daesh who have more than enough expertise to build "in-house".

Those same folks would, I surmise, know the folks that would sell c4, and the proper detonators, etc... needed to build those "martyrdom belts" or whatever the hell they call them.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

What i am interested in is the response and further attacks, I have a interest in counter-terrorism so stuff like this is interesting to me. How did they pull it off, what counter measures where in place, what lines of investigation are being looked at, who was involved, what motivated them, where the radicalised at home or abroad i could go on but you obviously don't shear the same interest as I do so much of this would be lost on you.

They communicated via throw-away phones called burner phones.

Paris terrorists used disposable burner phones to hide plans. No evidence of encryption.boingboing.net...


And guess what, America!? Last year several incidents were reported to the FBI about strange men buying up 100's of disposable phones at various Walmarts across the state of Missouri.wncn.com...

We had threads about it here on ATS. Of course, all sorts of possibilities and excuses were bandied about, but I hope the FBI remembers that!

a reply to: Mianeye

Bombs are astoundingly easy to make ,fertilizer diesel etc .it's how brevick made his

a reply to: queenofswords

Yes. ...and I would, rightly or wrongly, assume that the FBI/various law enforcement entities were/are looking into it.

Panic and insecurity is what Daesh, and assholes like them, want. They want you and I looking over our shoulders being afraid. F that. I've got better things to do.

To quote one of my favorite movies: Fear profits a man nothing.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: queenofswords

Yes. ...and I would, rightly or wrongly, assume that the FBI/various law enforcement entities were/are looking into it.

Panic and insecurity is what Daesh, and assholes like them, want. They want you and I looking over our shoulders being afraid. F that. I've got better things to do.

To quote one of my favorite movies: Fear profits a man nothing.

Look, nobody wants themselves or their children blown up…for what?


It’s real whether people want to deny it or not.


These savages SHOULD NOT be allowed to have a safe haven to plot mass murder.


While our very government that created this mess does nothing but offer platitudes

RIP poor soles!

a reply to: Willtell

Who's denying?

They could very well be here. So? Am I supposed to panic, be afraid to leave my home in fear of the dangerous terrorist that might be lurking nearby with his "martyrdom belt"?

It concerns me, sure. Not a big fan of this sort of thing. But I categorically refuse to bow to fear. From whatever source.

I will not give up my freedoms for security.

Daesh is here!! What am I supposed to do? Go ahead, tell me.

a reply to: seagull

Of course not. That’s not the point.

The point is those with the power to deal with it aren’t doing their job.

Likely when they do they’ll overdo it, again.

So of course there’s little hope but hope is still a good thing

...and telling the truth must never end

a reply to: Willtell

On that, we agree.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: queenofswords

Yes. ...and I would, rightly or wrongly, assume that the FBI/various law enforcement entities were/are looking into it.

Panic and insecurity is what Daesh, and assholes like them, want. They want you and I looking over our shoulders being afraid. F that. I've got better things to do.

To quote one of my favorite movies: Fear profits a man nothing.

Not panicking. Not living in fear. Not looking over my shoulder.

But there IS panic from those that think the "awake and hearing" citizens are getting tired of these as***les. Maybe they should be panicked that The People are getting fed up.

But there is fear. Fear that because you ARE "awake and hearing" you might be called an Islamaphobe when you say enough is enough and something isn't right in our system that allows these kinds of incoming to root in our society and breed this kind of mentality.

I do look at my surroundings, but not out of paranoia or fear, but out of a reasonable understanding that some muslim fanatic that you have worked with and known for many years might morph into a fanatical "Allah Akbar" shouting killer.

The picture in my earlier post has new information released:

Belgian prosecutor: 2 airport attack suspects seen in surveillance photo are likely suicide bombers, seeking 3rd man; several raids underway - VTM News, AP

Shown by previous raids, Belgium police respond to actionable intel. I hope it results in the capture of the cowards responsible for these terrorist attacks.

a reply to: awareness10

I cannot speak to its veractiy (copied from a comment section elsewhere) BUT, if true this is an interesting twist:

"Literally just 150 feet from where the Metro bomb exploded, Palestine’s Foreign Affairs Minister Riad Al-Malki and the Grand Mufti of Egypt Shawki Ibrahim Abdel-Karim Allam were meant to be attending a seminar at the EU Government HQ!!!! The topic for discussion at the EU Parliament today is "Palestine" - were these bombs planted in an attempt to derail the Palestinian debate in the EU Parliament? The building is now closed and on lock-down. The official EU SuperState government website says "Palestine’s Foreign Affairs Minister Riad Al-Malki will join Foreign Affairs Committee Members to debate the political situation there, including the inter-Palestinian reconciliation talks, Grand Mufti of Egypt, Shawki Ibrahim Abdel-Karim Allam will also join the Foreign Affairs Committee…" (Tuesday - day of bombings). Both locations were TRANSPORTANTION targets - were the bombers trying to kill people attending the EU debate about Palestine?"

a reply to: FamCore

Isn't that interesting?

An assassination attempt, with the rest as cover? Makes a great deal of sense, actually. If, indeed, it isn't just a strange coincidence...

Nice find.

a reply to: FamCore

awesome find that is very interesting.

Hmm, now let me understand this. This attack occurred early this morning. It took them less than 12 hours to find a Nail Bomb, chemicals, and an ISIS flag? That is either exceptional police work, or something fishy.

a reply to: FamCore

Yes that is definately interesting,

What i'm getting out of these attacks like this is that, those who are supplying the bombs and other materials for these types of easy access attacks, seem to be giving the orders to the ones actually tossing them.

CIA Operative also comes to mind, isn't Palestine standing in the way of 'Those wanting to take over the entire region'?

It would seem they wanted to give a bloody good scare not only to the Citizens of the Country but also to the Palestinians attending this meeting, as a way of Flexing their Muscles and as a Warning.

These tactics are becoming lame and people will start to point their fingers towards the guys in Charge (Gov't/Cia etc) which clearly are not these two bit bomb throwing thugs, however they are FULLY responsible as well for their own actions.