Police Officer talks about his experience at Trump's rally in Tucson: AWESOME!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Domo1
I think this whole thing is hysterical.

We've got protesters blocking highways, assaulting police, slapping police horses and people say they're gentle little sweetums.

We've had two people at Trump rallies punch people. Out of hundreds of thousands, but Trump is the agitator.

Anyone watching and being honest knows where the problem is. It's with the Bernouts.

Even more hysterical is that a US political candidate is rustling foreigners jimmies so hard. Stay rustled, it's a positive for Trump. Every uppity Canadian and European telling Americans how to vote is giving Trump 10 more votes. Every protester is probably giving him thousands. Keep it up kids. It reminds me of the Bernouts telling black people they're stupid for not voting for Panders. Your tears are Trump fuel.

No one has said that activists are all "peace loving" or "gentle little sweetums." If so, quote it.

Your statement that "one or two people have been punched" at Trump events is absolutely incorrect.

The Federalist

Multiple violent encounters have occurred at Donald Trump’s campaign events. Here are a few of the most recent times people got attacked at one of the businessman’s campaign events.

Slate Magazine

Washingon Post

Vanity Fair

moveon.org did in fact characterize the Chicago protest as peaceful, loving and courageous. You have seen the full statement on another thread.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Which protesters "hid their allegiance"? You had one video from one Trump supporter.

How do you think they're getting in sweetums?

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Gryphon66

OK here, read this.

I will after you Read THIS!

If you don't wish to discuss the matter at hand, or address the false equivalencies and errors in your post ... just say so.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Gryphon66

Which protesters "hid their allegiance"? You had one video from one Trump supporter.

How do you think they're getting in sweetums?

They registered online?

The registrations were not checked at the doors?

How do you think they're getting in, darling?

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Teikiatsu

This is how we MAGA!

Piss off the bottom feeders so they move to Canada (they won't go to Mexico) and BOOM! Prosperity!

Or Trump should nominate her to the SCOTUS.

Can you imagine the confirmation?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Not falling for it! I win! Just like Senpai will win.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Can you imagine the confirmation?

STOP! I can only get so aroused!

a reply to: UKTruth

Again, you try to take the statement of one group and apply it as if the thousands you're discussing have made that statement, and implying that those who have issues with Trump are equal to the Chicago protesters who were involved with MoveOn. This is an utterly unfair comparison, and is designed to silence those who simply wish to speak out against Mr. Trump and his ideas and the actions of his followers.

That is exactly the kind of harassment I'm pointing to here. Again I ask: Why are you trying to shut down free speech?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Which protesters "hid their allegiance"? You had one video from one Trump supporter.

Trump supporters were blocked? I guess there are fire codes about maximum capacity.

You are again desperately trying to reframe my argument: I am not talking about the violence on both sides as being equal to the attempts to personally attack and therefore dissuade folks from posting in these threads in dissent to Trump and his supporters. That is a direct misrepresentation of the facts.

Neither am I talking about "disagreeing" with someone on ATS! Please stop this blatant misrepresenation of the facts!

If by whatever action from mundane to extreme, the actions of anyone who expresses dissent and disagreement with Trump and his message at his rallies are terroristic attempts to shut down free speech, then conversely, whatever action from mundane to extreme on the part of Trump supporters to do the same thing is EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

If the claims of "shutting down free speech" are valid for one side, it's valid for the other.

To be clear as well, I am addressing the arguments, not the people, and not you personally UKTruth.

You will have to explain a bit better than about how your free speech on ATS is being shut down.. I still don't get it.

How is something posted here the same as punching someone and stopping them entering a venue? Also, no one is threatening you to make you stop saying what you want to say.

There are many examples of the domestic terrorist behaviour used in Chicago as you know well from the other thread. I'd rather not repeat them all here because this is about a police officers experience of the vile behaviour shown by protesters in AZ.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Gryphon66

Not falling for it! I win! Just like Senpai will win.

You "win" because you declare that you win?

That is indeed similar to Mr. Trump, who is the greatest at everything with all the answers to every problem merely because he declares it to be so.

What was it his butler called him in a recent interview "The King"?

LOL. Okay ... you win, hon. Feel all better now?

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: introvert


What is it you disagree with?

wwf style politics is nothing compared to war mongering and mass murder.

I disagree with the idea of having a president who's WWF, drama queen, entertainment-style outlook will have the power to wage war and push buttons.

What may look good and sound good when John Cena has your back does not equate to effective governance.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Again, you try to take the statement of one group and apply it as if the thousands you're discussing have made that statement, and implying that those who have issues with Trump are equal to the Chicago protesters who were involved with MoveOn. This is an utterly unfair comparison, and is designed to silence those who simply wish to speak out against Mr. Trump and his ideas and the actions of his followers.

That is exactly the kind of harassment I'm pointing to here. Again I ask: Why are you trying to shut down free speech?

What are you on about? YOU asked for an example of someone who had used that language to describe the event of Chicago. I have given it to you. How is that shutting down your free speech?

a reply to: Gryphon66

You "win" because you declare that you win?

No. I win because I have the best words.

a reply to: UKTruth

I have explained repeatedly that you are not shutting down my free speech, as I understand your tactics and am unaffected by them.

If you wish to understand my arguments, they are stated clearly and repeatedly above, in short ... if any dissent is an attempt to shut down free speech, then any dissent is an attempt to shut down free speech.

You have thus far missed the tautology of your argument in your desperate attempts to further it.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Gryphon66

You "win" because you declare that you win?

No. I win because I have the best words.

LOL. You win because of boredom.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Again, you try to take the statement of one group and apply it as if the thousands you're discussing have made that statement, and implying that those who have issues with Trump are equal to the Chicago protesters who were involved with MoveOn. This is an utterly unfair comparison, and is designed to silence those who simply wish to speak out against Mr. Trump and his ideas and the actions of his followers.

That is exactly the kind of harassment I'm pointing to here. Again I ask: Why are you trying to shut down free speech?

What are you on about? YOU asked for an example of someone who had used that language to describe the event of Chicago. I have given it to you. How is that shutting down your free speech?

You're merely repeating the same thing in desperation. I have told you that your attempts are not shutting down my "free speech."

Now please, make a valid argument.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

I have explained repeatedly that you are not shutting down my free speech, as I understand your tactics and am unaffected by them.

If you wish to understand my arguments, they are stated clearly and repeatedly above, in short ... if any dissent is an attempt to shut down free speech, then any dissent is an attempt to shut down free speech.

You have thus far missed the tautology of your argument in your desperate attempts to further it.

I guess you are confusing me because I don't think anyone has ever said that any dissent is an attempt to shut down free speech. You seem to have constructed your own argument based on nothing anyone has said in order to use it to make some kind of point. i must admit I still don't know what your point is though.

Look, why don't we just draw a line under this and accept we are never going to see eye to eye on this subject?

a reply to: awareness10

Sounds like he witnessed multiple instances of rent-a-crowd doing what they do best - use intimidation and aggression to stifle free speech and the right to peaceful assembly.

Given how dirty US politics is, these sorts of shenanigans of creating drama and throwing any sh!t that will stick does not surprise me in slightest.

US politics is the dirtiest of dirty business.

a reply to: UKTruth

Of course we don't agree.

Just allow others to have their "free speech" without assault, and we're fine.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Of course we don't agree.

Just allow others to have their "free speech" without assault, and we're fine.

Everyone is entitled to free speech - so I think we agree.
If anyone assaults you to stop it , that is just not on and I will be there to defend you.