Secular Talk: Trump Goes full Fascist

a reply to: reldra

Gee, that was nothing like having a codified hate group, or 100's of them, supporting the extermination of white people and the current government stirrinf the pot with disinformation.

a reply to: Gryphon66

2007 - 2008 Congress was not Republican majority.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: MysticPearl
Trump is actually a nationalist. I'd also argue a nationalistic attitude is exactly what this country needs right now and it's exactly what Europe should have had before letting in all the refugees which are tearing those countries apart.

What we're seeing from the left however, from Shillary and Bernie falls much closer to communism. What we're seeing by protesters at Trump rallies, the intent to shut down the 1st amendment rights of Americans to meet on private property, supported by both Shillary and Bernie are communist tactics used before throughout world history.

That the Bernie supported rioters are stomping on American flags and wearing shirts which say "F*** Amerikkka" while trumping on the 1st amendment rights of Americans shows how anti-American they are at their core.

Our forefathers would be rolling over in their graves at such anti-American sentiment being not only accepted but celebrated. That the left feels they have the right to do that while negating the rights of others to want to protect our borders and concentrate on improving the lives of Americans here, not immigrants from elsewhere is simply amazing. That the left will congregate and use tactics which will get your head chopped off in nations they also support is the height of hypocrisy. That they also constantly defend Islam and women's rights while in many Islamic countries women have next to no rights and need to remain covered just to avoid getting raped, is also the height of hypocrisy.

If these leftists tried these same tactics in Saudi Arabia, or Syria, or Iran, or even in the US backed Israel where Christianity has been under threat for decades, among a number of other nations their attitudes would change will quickly. Much of the left's attitude and bravado comes from insulation and isolation which affords that level of ignorance.

God, I agree with everything you have said, I just wish we had a better guy than Trump representing this platform.

dude, this is going to happen to anyone running this platform. He isn't bought off like Sanders, yes he is, Clinron, or Cruz. He # aound and put some thing right economocally. The biggest issue is letting corporation make so much money by moving out of the country. He'll change that to a small degree, then move on the real issue which is taxing businesses.

Fascist is soooo overused. Why don't we consult an expert. HISTORIAN Michael Ledeen studied Italian Fascism.

www.forbes.com...

No, Donald Trump isn’t a fascist. And the efforts of a considerable number of columnists, reporters, and even university professors to make him out to be a second Hitler or Mussolini testifies, I think, to their ignorance about fascism.

I’m not a Trump fan at all, but calling him a “fascist” distorts the history of the last century. If you’re looking for real fascists in the modern world, you’ll do better looking at the jihadis, who believe they’ve been tricked into previous defeats, unleash slaughter on those who oppose them, seek to dominate the world, and destroy free societies. Trump’s not one of those.

So, here we have an Historian that studied Italian fascism. He's not a Trump fan and he disagrees with all the "Trump is a Fascist" idiocy.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

2007 - 2008 Congress was not Republican majority.

39.8% Republican control then.

originally posted by: Khaleesi
Fascist is soooo overused. Why don't we consult an expert. HISTORIAN Michael Ledeen studied Italian Fascism.

www.forbes.com...

No, Donald Trump isn’t a fascist. And the efforts of a considerable number of columnists, reporters, and even university professors to make him out to be a second Hitler or Mussolini testifies, I think, to their ignorance about fascism.

I’m not a Trump fan at all, but calling him a “fascist” distorts the history of the last century. If you’re looking for real fascists in the modern world, you’ll do better looking at the jihadis, who believe they’ve been tricked into previous defeats, unleash slaughter on those who oppose them, seek to dominate the world, and destroy free societies. Trump’s not one of those.

So, here we have an Historian that studied Italian fascism. He's not a Trump fan and he disagrees with all the "Trump is a Fascist" idiocy.

Jihadis are fascists? Seriously?

I must have missed the bit where they work hand in glove with big business and nationalists.

Some of the political talk on this website is the most ridiculous laughable nonsense I ever heard.People sadly are brainwashed by so much propaganda with the news media and now the smart phones with political elections it is sad.

They cannot grasp New World Order is real and will try to stop Trump or anyone not approved with a GOP stamp or sticker and the same thing with democrats NWO stamped Hillary Clinton on her.
They are all Elitist and Globalist and power mongers and billionire in the builderbergers and other groups.Alex Jones has been exposing them for decades and nothing is done to stop them.
You see how fake the news media has become with so much bias being exposed with them.
Hopefully common sense prevails or this will get really ugly because of the NWO people who really do it.

I haven't been a trump supporter up to this point.

I got an email today that my employer is ending our insurance plan, because it doesn't comform to Obamacare. Apparently, my healthcare cannot be a "pre-tax benefit." So in addition to forcing me off my plan, they are functionally raising my taxes by cost of plan x my tax rate = the rate is too damn high.


If the fascists will stop jacking with my healthcare, they can have the government for all I care.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dismanrc
a reply to: Gryphon66

A statement is not a fact?

No, every statement is not a fact, for heaven's sake.

Statement: The Moon is made of green cheese.

That is a statement; it is not a fact.

As to the rest of it ... offer us some PROOF of your claims; if not they're your opinions.

Nothing wrong with opinions, but they are not facts.

The semantic ploy "but it is a fact that I have an opinion" is circular.

Yes but the issue is what Trump stands for and what he has promised to do.

So these are in deed facts. Weather or not he keeps these after he is in office will also give you more facts. That he can be trusted to keep his word or he lies to you.

Just like it was a fact that Obama said "you can keep your doctor".

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: CaptainBeno
a reply to: eNumbra

Because the realities are simply an exact match to the thoughts?

Which ones? The ones Trump says or the ones he says after retracting the original statements?

The answer to this question: "Yes."

a reply to: reldra

Makes no difference. He talks like a NEOCON in the video.

This presidents race is going to be a strange one, i am just going to sit back and watch the fireworks and hope and pray that when the smoke clears we have a good candidate worthy of the seat.

a reply to: AMspec

Uhhh, have you seen the line-up?

originally posted by: MysticPearl
Trump is actually a nationalist. I'd also argue a nationalistic attitude is exactly what this country needs right now and it's exactly what Europe should have had before letting in all the refugees which are tearing those countries apart.

And um....has strong nationalism ever ended well? I'm just curious where all this is going.

a reply to: reldra

Yet his comments in the video sounds so NEOCON. When you hear it as many years that I have, then you can't mistake it.

a reply to: Kali74

You're absolutely right ...they were indeed NOT .

a reply to: Gryphon66

He stated he indeed had FEAR?
I would like to read YOUR sources say he was in fact afraid.
Otherwise your BIAS will out...AGAIN.

a reply to: Willtell

If you want a PORN author vote for a porn author,Bernie has NO other professional credentials outside of politics.
Hilarie is beyond all hope of being elected due to the Clintons corruption.
SO this time LETS see what a big business guy can whip out.
W'VE HAD it with the victimization ,the ANGST and the divisive nature of the BIGOTS propelled by the left and it's CONSTANT DRUMBEAT of "poor me" constantly "VICTIMING" themselves for the purposes of legal manipulation and attempted indoctrination.
WUSSIES all and down the drain they are indeed circling.
Better LEARN what you've rejected( HISTORY: an example comes to mind..) if you want a life,OBAMA will eventually LEAVE and take the hue and cries with him.
American politics are a pendulum that won't change 55 years has shown that RATHER clearly to me.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: xuenchen
LOL

More votes for Trump.

How would those things give him more votes?

really?....c'mon relda....throughout history, meglomanics who use fear and patriotism, have been initially voted into power....I'm a left of center member, and I have a copy of Mein Kampf, it explains quite clearly how to control a population