Caitlyn Jenner - Trump ''Would Be Very Good for Women's Issues," Clinton a ''F--king Liar''

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
I am pretty sure they are women too.

And I am sure that Bruce is still a male who mutilated his body.

Mutilation is not the same s plastic surgery. Extreme body building isn't mutilation either.

a reply to: Danowski

LOL!

"It's like a Poppa John's pimple party!" - Jenner

Oh man and the way the voice was dubbed in...classic!

originally posted by: KingKelson

That is very true. I tried, kind of (I could have tried harder), no eschew labels and just use the generic "they" although I could have probably reinforced the idea with better grammar but I was in a hurry and yeah.

So yes everyone has the capacity to hate everyone, but to me it seems the left is especially good at hating and smearing those who go against their beliefs, no matter how great or small. In the case of Caitlyn, when the news first came out, it seemed that the left was all over themselves to support her, while the right was more of the attitude of eh good for him/her/whatever, let's see how this goes. Now it seems the left absolutely hares Caitlyn now for not being a true woman, and not holding leftist ideals and such. The right still seems to think eh good for her, she's pissing off the liberals and going about her life.
That is of course my own observations within my limited media bubble. Alot of this I gathered from comments sections of various new stories, of both biases and more.

a reply to: eNumbra

I won't speculate to cause, but I've seen enough from both sides to loathe any implication that one side does it more than the other. The only real difference I see is the tendency for lefties to be insulting, while righties are often more dismissive - treating those who disagreed with them at the time as simply being naive "lacking an understanding of how 'the real world works'"; but they're never afraid to patronizingly refer to safe spaces and academia whenever convenient.

If only everyone just stopped caring about what one person thinks, there'd be no reason to insult someone over an opinion since, at the end of the day, Caitlyn's endorsement means no more than my endorsement, or your endorsement or any another single person's endorsement. (though the cult of celebrity and readiness of people to be told who to vote for has seen that that would be false)

Human pettiness knows no allegiance.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The fact that she even in the race says plenty about the death of your Republic

And that makes a difference how?

Whitewater controversy
en.wikipedia.org...

Suicide of Vince Foster
en.wikipedia.org...

Accused never convicted.

Sorry, I am not a Hillary fan but should remind you being accused of something and being guilty are not the same.

Had she been found guilty of anything even just a misdemeanor I would agree, but she doesn't have any as far as I can see...although the right money can have them taken care of.

SO sure she may be guilty with both of those incidents, although it was never proven she is still innocent until she get's caught at something and it can be proven...and lying doesn't exclude you for running for president.

If it did we would have barely a handful of politicians in the US able to run for office.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seeker1963

I don't know why Conservatives think Tolerance means accepting everything in silence. I'm pretty sure no dictionary has that definition.

That's because conservatives don't try to pass themselves off as the party of 'tolerance'.

When their critics are the most intolerant people I have ever seen.

Last nite in Chicago was a nice example of it, and comments made by them about Jenner.

Among a plethora of other examples.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Never heard the saying 'How can you tell when a politician is LYING ?'

Their lips are moving.

Clinton is a Washington insider,corrupt as they come, and wants to be 'president'.

By all rights she shouldn't even be running.

Between her long sorted history of corruption,racketeering,extortion, and list too long of other crimes.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
I am pretty sure they are women too.

And I am sure that Bruce is still a male who mutilated his body.

Mutilation is not the same s plastic surgery. Extreme body building isn't mutilation either.

Plastic surgery is a mutilation of the outer body. Extreme BB with steroid use is mutilation to the inner body. At the end of the day...when either party becomes a senior in society they will look like shift.

a reply to: Konduit

An entire 3 page thread about the political opinion of Bruce Jenner?

Seriously ATS????

wow

a reply to: eNumbra

Caitlyn's endorsement means no more than my endorsement, or your endorsement or any another single person's endorsement.

You know it really shouldn't, but the way the US works celebrities seem to be the big thing for politicians.

And when a celebrities go a certain way many will follow...that's why they mean more than a regular person's endorsement.

Strange as that may seem, that is what we have become as humans.

a reply to: combatmaster

An entire 3 page thread about the political opinion of Bruce Jenner?

Seriously ATS????

wow

Slow news day.

a reply to: Skywatcher2011

This thread is about Jenner's political idiocy not your personal platform to demean and mock transgender people and spread hate and derogatory comments about them. We get it. Want to flame and attack trans people for being trans, spread discrimination and demonstrate your own lack of information about this subject, start your own thread.

a reply to: thesaneone

My bad only the left is tolerant.

True


...and...too late

originally posted by: Konduit
...The SJW's must have torn their hair out when they heard this comment coming from one of their idols.

Why has being concerned about social inequality been turned into a pejorative term?

I'm not so sure who exactly you think it is that believes Caitlyn Jenner is an "idol" but from what I can tell, it sure as hell isn't the trans community at large.

Dear Caitlyn: Stop. Please. Stop.

As an advocate and ally to transgender youth and their families and as someone that follows these issues, I can share some of the opinions and criticisms I've read about Caitlyn Jenner. Beyond the obvious fact that her visibility is not representative of 99% of transgender people's lives due to wealth, social status and a lifetime of white male privilege, her recent politically oriented comments are just plain ignorant of the things trans people that aren't rich, protected and isolated have to deal with on a daily basis.

Hey, let's make discrimination and prejudice legal as part of our political platform:

RNC denounces transgender rights under Title IX

RNC endorses anti-trans bathroom bills

Her support of the Republican party that has sponsored 44 pieces of anti-trans legislation this year really seems to show she is absolutely clueless about the world beyond her protected and privileged bubble. Is it not hard to see why there's all this sudden backlash against her.

a reply to: neo96

By all rights she shouldn't even be running.

Between her long sorted history of corruption,racketeering,extortion, and list too long of other crimes.

I agree.

But until actually convicted of something most are accusations. And trust me I am far from being a Hillary fan.

I am just pointing out that had she been convicted of even a misdemeanor I would fully agree, but there is nothing that she has done that would keep her from running as far as legally.

Now if we were electing them for their morals she would have been laughed at just for suggesting she may run.

US politics suck, but until we figure a way to change it this is what he have.

a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Plastic surgery is a mutilation of the outer body.

That is our opinion and that's all good, but there are many who need plastic surgery to repair their outer body, so you would consider that mutilation to their outer body?

Hmm maybe she's not now but I clearly remember that when Caitlyn first had her surgery it seemed she was the idol of everyone in the LGBT community, so much that to even suggest something was wrong with her would welcome vicious attacks by the denizens of the internet. Since she has spoken out about how she still holds "conservative" views suddenly " she's not our idol, she doesn't represent the LGBT community, she's not a real woman" if I had the time I would prove (or disprove) that this has happened by looking at commentors hate caitlyn posts and see how that same person felt when Caitlyn first transitioned and compare the two. I don't know what exactly I'd find but I'm sure I'd be able to find a few examples ,which means nothing except that people can change their opinions and spew hate for people they previously adored for no more reason than that they don't fit the mold.

So what in getting at here basically I guess, is that by denouncing Caitlyn as being "not a woman etc" is the same as calling a black conservative an Uncle Tom. So take what you will





a reply to: Freija

Has Trump ever said anything anti trans or anti gay or anti gay marriage?

a reply to: seeker1963

I watched her show last night her tolerant trans friends couldn't even stand to be in the same room with her.

Ifyouhavetoask,honestly I'd say no. That seems like something the MSM would pick up and make sure everyone knew. Just my opinion though. I don't have time to check unfortunately.


a reply to: Stormdancer777