Breaking Now!!!...Huge Protest At Chicago Rally For Donald Trump (Live Streaming)

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: UKTruth

I am so glad you asked this question.

For clarity - if you flip the bird, shout and and smirk at a group of people after interrupting their rally then NO - THIS IS NOT FREE SPEECH. Its an abuse of the 1st amendment. It's inciting violence.
Peaceful and respectful protest is fine. What this guy did was not.

Shouting and smirking is still part of expressing yourself. So basically you think its ok to take justice into your own hands if someone shows a middle finger, I wonder how that will play out in court. But Im not really surprised Trump-supporters or "righties" think like that, its that eye for an eye- mentality that brought your country and the world where it is now.

And if someone from that riot had killed a Trump supporter Im pretty sure he wouldve been tried for murder not disrupting speech either. When was even the last time in the US anybody got fined for disrupting free speech? Does that even happen?

You are confused about the first amendment. You think it provides the right to impede and smear others. It does not.

It's the kind of blatant misuse of the constitution that shocks me so much.

The guy who got punched got exactly what he deserved. As I said, try it. Go and stick your middle finger up at the first 100 people you see in town. When you wake up in the hospital you might understand that a world in which you can incite people and get away with it doesn't exist and that misusing the first amendment is not going to repair your face.

Now, the guy who threwthe punch was dealt with by the law. Rightly so. He chose the way he wanted to deal with the situation and was arrested for it.

The reaction to all this is that Trump comes out in the right and the lefties are shown up for the violent hypocrites that they are. One example for you - People were calling Trump Hitler because he asked people to put their hands up to pledge a vote for him. Pretty far fetched, especially when you actually watch the video, but the claims were made nonetheless. Last night the protesters were actually holding up communist flags, an ideology responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people, yet there is little to no reaction. You see the hypocrisy? I do? many do, which is why the BS we are seeing and hearing is only going to strengthen Trump. It's the beginning of the end for the utterly crazy leftist view of the world. It might end in a very violent war or it might end at the ballot box, either way, it's over.

You were talking about shouting and smirking. How more are you going to change your story before it fits perfectly in your agenda?

Shouting, smirking and giving the bird. That is what i said - go back and read. Go and act like that as I said and wait for your beating.

a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Like the '60's ' Nam protests...Chicago. Ohio, Washington, Detroit Riots....I was at them all...

In retrospect these and the ones 40+ years ago...give people the true meanings of "right to protest" and "free speech".

Except Ohio's Kent State...the National Guard used LIVE ammo and killed four of us student protesters....dead*

*(Raised right fist)

originally posted by: UnBreakable

"Obama buddy and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was seen protesting Donald Trump in Chicago today".
www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Rules for Radicals and Cloward-piven playing out live.

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

SOURCE

With Soros providing the funding.

This is their wet dream.

"Giving the bird" eh?

Goodness.

Did anyone stick their tongue out as well? Or bite their thumb at anyone?

Scandalous.

I guess many Americans will still openly oppose a fascist nut-job after all.

a reply to: stosh64

... and, no evidence at all for the very evident fact that Trump HIMSELF is pursuing this policy?

That's rich.

originally posted by: UKTruth

You are confused about the first amendment. You think it provides the right to impede and smear others. It does not.

It's the kind of blatant misuse of the constitution that shocks me so much.

So shouting and smirking at people is the same as impeding and smearing people? Because thats what you changed it into.

originally posted by: UKTruth

The guy who got punched got exactly what he deserved. As I said, try it. Go and stick your middle finger up at the first 100 people you see in town. When you wake up in the hospital you might understand that a world in which you can incite people and get away with it doesn't exist and that misusing the first amendment is not going to repair your face.

Now, the guy who threwthe punch was dealt with by the law. Rightly so. He chose the way he wanted to deal with the situation and was arrested for it.

How does this in any way prove that it is against the constitution? So if you flip people off and get beaten it means the ones beating you up have the right too? Thats in the constitution? Really?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Haven't been in much with ATS acting out of sorts, so I read through the thread.

People are still defending the actions of the "protestors" and attacking Trump and his supporters and blaming last nights actions on Trump?

It's absolutely crazy.

Hell, even on ATS we are told that we're responsible for our own posts. This is tantamount to being post-banned because someone else disrupted your thread. It makes zero sense. And we don't have first amendment rights on ATS.

It's bizarre to me that no one on MSM are calling out the 10,000 protesters or the organizers. That somehow the victims, Trump supporters lawfully assembling in expression of their first amendment rights, are somehow the bad guys but the violent protesters are simply citizens exercising theirs.

I guess the left thinks their rights are more important. No big surprise there.

So ... only the Trump supporters have assembly rights?

Only they have free speech?

LOL.

Indeed, a sleeping giant HAS been awakened, just not the one the Donald was hoping for.

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Unless the left makes some drastic changes, this will just show that their ideology sees it as ok to infringe upon the rights of others.

Wow meanwhile you keep your eyes closed for your own candidate who supports those very infringements.

Trump:
"We have to beat the savages"
"Torture works"
"Ban Muslims"

Hypocrites.

I don't understand.

Because Trump said some things, that justifies the left in infringing others rights?

Why would you want Trump and his supporters killed?

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: xuenchen
Democrats are Democrats are Democrats ...............

They always are.

Wrong!

Democrats are only Democrats when they have a majority. Any other time they're Fascist Nazis.

Says the one supporting the guy that requires his followers to hold up their right hands in salute to him ... LOL.

Talk about the pot and the kettle ... LOL.

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Haven't been in much with ATS acting out of sorts, so I read through the thread.

People are still defending the actions of the "protestors" and attacking Trump and his supporters and blaming last nights actions on Trump?

It's absolutely crazy.

Hell, even on ATS we are told that we're responsible for our own posts. This is tantamount to being post-banned because someone else disrupted your thread. It makes zero sense. And we don't have first amendment rights on ATS.

It's bizarre to me that no one on MSM are calling out the 10,000 protesters or the organizers. That somehow the victims, Trump supporters lawfully assembling in expression of their first amendment rights, are somehow the bad guys but the violent protesters are simply citizens exercising theirs.

I guess the left thinks their rights are more important. No big surprise there.

Whats really crazy is Trump supporters dont seem to understand the hate and lies theyre supporting and what that will cause and already is causing. And how hypocritical they are as I pointed out numerous times. Also generalizing a lot. If you think pointing those things out is the same as defending those actions then be my guest.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Unless the left makes some drastic changes, this will just show that their ideology sees it as ok to infringe upon the rights of others.

Wow meanwhile you keep your eyes closed for your own candidate who supports those very infringements.

Trump:
"We have to beat the savages"
"Torture works"
"Ban Muslims"

Hypocrites.

I don't understand.

Because Trump said some things, that justifies the left in infringing others rights?

Why would you want Trump and his supporters killed?

Wtf? Can you spin words any more? How about a few lessons in reading comprehension?

Pointing out youre hypocrites is not the same as defending those teen mobs. And where do I say or even hint that I want Trump supporters killed? Thats just a disgusting and insane assumption I dont even know how you came up with that. Explain that to me.

Registration to this event was free and anyone could do so online.

The protestors did so. Some of the Trump faithful didn't like that.

Things did get ugly, but this time, it wasn't the Trump horde kicking and beating individual protesters ...

.... and of course, the victim cards go flying onto the table. LOL.

Thank goodness no one was hurt ... perhaps Mr. Trump will tone down the incitement now ....

a reply to: Gryphon66

Great mental gymnastics there. No one is saying that.

The point is that they were aggressive and trolling in their protests and then have the audacity to feign indignation and victim status when it gets ugly. No different really than what the left always does. You know, like push something as silly as transgender bathrooms down the throats of a mystified and confused populace and then not understand when someone gets beat up in the bathroom. Yes it's wrong. But it's also wrong to push society and culture to a breaking point to accommodate the margins. Or, hell, just toss out culture/society/customs/norms altogether so everyone gets a trophy but no one wins.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

I've been able to read the rest of the thread from where I left-off last night, and I think it is quite obvious that both sides of this issue are in the wrong here.

The protesters went about this, in my opinion, in the the wrong way. They should not have become disruptive and Trump should have been able to have his rally without incident.

At the same time, Trump and his supporters are in the wrong for using hateful, ignorant rhetoric against groups of people that feel they are being targeted by an unjust system.

Both sides have the right to free speech and both sides have failed to use that right responsibly.

Those that say it is the fault of one side and not the other are completely missing the entire picture and only serve to perpetuate the out-of-control ignorance on this issue.

a reply to: whatsup86

Do you think it is right to infringe upon the rights of others?

Apparently you do.

Not too hard to figure out.

... and speaking of salutes ...



I'm sure this Trump supporter is just hoping for a "high-five" or something, right?

LOL (Notice picture courtesy of the Chicago Tribune).

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: whatsup86

Do you think it is right to infringe upon the rights of others?

Apparently you do.

Not too hard to figure out.

Why is that apparant??? Because I point out how hypocritical you are it is apparant I support those mobs actions? Ha.

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
But it's also wrong to push society and culture to a breaking point to accommodate the margins.

So you're against the civil rights peaceful protests of the 1960's? After all, they pushed society and culture to a breaking point to "accommodate the margins".

originally posted by: IAMTAT
For those who doubted Bill Ayers was there instigating violent protests:
twitter.com...

Convicted Domestic Terrorist Ayers.


New Hero same as Old Hero.


It is becoming very very clear what is going on here.