Massive Waves Unearth Ancient Hawaiian Petroglyphs

MASSIVE WAVES UNEARTH ANCIENT HAWAIIAN PETROGLYPHS

Sorry about the title in caps, not yelling. Just a copy and paste from the article.

Across the street from Foodland on the North Shore of Oahu, buried beneath 10 feet of sand, lies a slab of lava rock that bears a glimpse into the lives of the ancient Hawaiians. And occasionally, under the right conditions, that volcanic hunk of rock will provide a fleeting history lesson.
Petroglyphs are a form of ancient art or storytelling made by carvings in rock. In Hawaii, the natives used the islands’ abundant lava rock as their canvas. And thanks to El Niño, and this winter’s particularly heavy swell activity, the rarely seen rock formations have been revealed on multiple occasions. Most recently, the swell that fueled the Quiksilver in Memory of Eddie Aikau event at Waimea Bay removed 10 feet of sand up the road at Keiki Beach, which unearthed a petroglyph.

I thought this was pretty interesting. I never knew these existed and am pleasantly surprised to read about them. I thought I'd pop in and post a link for those here who like these types of finds.

Pretty cool

What an interesting rediscovery! I only wish that the article could have given us an idea of how long they have been there. Thank you for the link

Awesome find. That kind of surface is easy to carve into, until enough time has elapsed, no? To me, i see two humans, one with a head dress, dancing above...well you got me there :p

a reply to: SLAYER69

Having lived on the islands for decades, I've never seen anything like the weather this year.

Not surprised that forgotten, ancient relics are coming to light. There is a rich history here, just waiting to be uncovered.

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Great find, Slayer. Your threads are always top notch!

You might appreciate this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Thanks for posting the link. I must have missed that thread when you posted it. I knew there were those types on the islands but this was the first I heard of the beach ones in lava.

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Thanks for posting the link. I must have missed that thread when you posted it. I knew there were those types on the islands but this was the first I heard of the beach ones in lava.

What's most interesting is that carbon dating takes these back 850-1900AD.

Now one has to ask, how much further do we need to step back to account for submerged petroglyphs?

Also interesting to see the petroglyphs in your OP are the same images I seen at various sites. Like a universal message that spans generations. love it.

ETA, also worth noting that similar petroglyphs can be found on US mainland around the Arizona, New Mexico (five corners) region. Although not exactly the same, many are remarkably uncanny.

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Yup, usually around this time it rains everyday in Hilo. This is El Nina.

It would make sense to see them everywhere including on submerged lava rock.

The story I got was that of birthing rituals. The umbilical chord was left on the Rock and if it wasn't eaten by local wildlife it was a bad omen and the child was left to be cared "collectively" like an outcast. So every birth would have a new petroglyph. Every dot above the head represents the family size.

....so I've heard.

These reminded me immediately of the rock art found in Valcamonica, Italy.

Great find and thanks for the story!

Lovely find and nice post, a little break from all this political circus.

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That is really cool.

My favorite take-away is that, even knowing that they exist, they allow natural forces to be what buries and exposes the history instead of rushing to expose it permanently and charging tourists money to see them. It's just nice to see that history--at least this tiny portion of it--hasn't been commercialized.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Thanks for posting the link. I must have missed that thread when you posted it. I knew there were those types on the islands but this was the first I heard of the beach ones in lava.

What's most interesting is that carbon dating takes these back 850-1900AD..

They weren't carbon dated. You can't carbon date lava. They're dated by style.

originally posted by: SLAYER69
I thought this was pretty interesting. I never knew these existed and am pleasantly surprised to read about them. I thought I'd pop in and post a link for those here who like these types of finds.

Pretty cool

Love the story - I'd missed it when it first appeared!

Our son was married when he was serving in Hawaii (some 12 years ago while I was getting my Masters' in Anthropology) and I went looking for the rock art on Oahu. It was surprisingly difficult to find -- there were some known tourist locations, but others were not well known. I did a lot of research and hunting to find the final one - the Kapua (in a small rock shelter (not-quite-a-cave) behind an old cemetery in the heart of Honolulu.

I heard the umbilical cord story for the holes - but also heard that the circles around the holes represented journeys around the island.

BTW, the figure on the left is apparently a deity (the headgear identifies a deity), the right side is an ordinary person and I believe that's a dog under their feet.

This is an awesome find! Great thread Slayer! Wonder what else will be unearthed in the hawaiian islands thats related to early polynesians

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originally posted by: Ros initiate

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Thanks for posting the link. I must have missed that thread when you posted it. I knew there were those types on the islands but this was the first I heard of the beach ones in lava.

What's most interesting is that carbon dating takes these back 850-1900AD..

They weren't carbon dated. You can't carbon date lava. They're dated by style.

I was thinking the same thing. Rosinitiate, could you explain how the glyphs in your Linked Thread were dated. Dating seems to be difficult at best so any technique is interesting.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Thanks for posting the link. I must have missed that thread when you posted it. I knew there were those types on the islands but this was the first I heard of the beach ones in lava.

What's most interesting is that carbon dating takes these back 850-1900AD..

They weren't carbon dated. You can't carbon date lava. They're dated by style.

Among the most significant new findings—information that was not scientifically proven in 1991—is the age of the rock carvings found along the Ala Loa Trail (more commonly known as the King’s Trail) at Waikoloa. Using Carbon 14 dating, Professors Ron Dorn and Nicole Cerveny of Arizona State University’s Geology Department have determined the oldest petroglyph in the Waikoloa field was created in 840 AD and the most recent in 1900, according to Kwaiatkowski.
“I believe petroglyph-making remained active and wide-spread in the islands just prior to the arrival of Captain Cook. For some unknown reason, after the arrival of Cook and all those other guys (early explorers), it died off relatively quickly,” he says.
What we do know, he said, through both scientific carbon dating and distinctive carving styles, is the progression of more and more sophisticated art forms, the earliest being linear stick-man drawings, which then moved to a brief period of block-like, wide-bodied forms. Both of these styles, Kwaiatkowski says, are found used by ancient cultures worldwide. The most recent pre-contact drawings use triangular forms unique to the Hawaiian k‘i‘i pōhaku.

It says both Carbon 14 dating and stylization. Maybe the dated debris wood, etc, not really sure. Maybe worth you looking into?

Source - keolamagazine.com...

Back in the 80's we lived on Maui, and my mom took me to see petroglyphs in a ravine in between Lahaina and Kahalui(huge stretch i know), it always blew me away just thinking about them.

This is incredible! There are several boulders on the shores that have Konane boards still ready to play.

There is an incredible archaeological treasures on all the hawaiian islands, wood survives surprisingly long in caves, and of course the sand covers all and preserves

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
It says both Carbon 14 dating and stylization. Maybe the dated debris wood, etc, not really sure. Maybe worth you looking into?

Source - keolamagazine.com...

Probably misquoted the scientists. That happens a lot (we say 'dated' and someone adds 'carbon' to it.) Since it was uncovered by waves, there would not be any associated debris with it.