Iran asked to pay 10.5 billion dollars to 9/11 victims

originally posted by: dazbog

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: haman10

Funny how Iran is blamed for this when we all know at the very least the hijackers were mostly from Saudia Arabia, but we mustn't ever mention them.

How do we all know the alleged hijackers were Saudi ? Our Government told us three days after the event ? And we can certainly trust them ! Even the 9/11 commission stated after the fact their investigation was BS.

Then those alleged hijackers say HEY. It wasn't me I'm alive and well. The Saudi guys did it. Right ! I can't believe how many people on this site parrot the government BS with NO evidence what-so-ever other then the word of a corrupt government whom few currently trust.

Saudis, Egyptian, UAE's, Lebanese. That much has been clarified the world over.

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Most odd. Thanks for that bit of information because it now makes sense that people can tip their dangerous snakes down the sewers and not their donkeys'. Think I would rather meet a donkey there though were I ever to go into NY's sewer system.

Meh, you'd be amazed at all the old, useless, laws still on the books. It's still illegal for me (as a Welshman) to be within the city walls of Chester at night. That's been on the books since the Fourteenth Century I think.

a reply to: haman10

Thats pretty dumb. Why not go after Saudi Arabia? They did it and have tons of money anyways.

I am starting to understand Iran. LOL

Judges in the US are asshats.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: haman10

On which basis ?

Sounds like US is willing to retain Iran's frozen assets at all cost ...

I smell a US war with Iran in the coming months...we all know Bush was behind 9/11

a reply to: dazbog

I know this isn't in response to me, but just for the record, please note the "supposedly" in my post:

1. Nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were supposedly Saudi citizens.

There have been some epic battles on ATS about 9/11. And the 9/11 forum even got temporarily shut down because of how heated things got (and some trolling and the such).

So it's likely that most people like myself are mentioning the Saudi nationals angle because that's still the official story (for now). It's kind of like saying "If the government really did tell us the truth about 9/11, why are we going after Iran instead of Saudi Arabia for this? And since our own government is ignoring its official story and isn't demanding Saudi compensation for 9/11, why should we believe the rest of the official story?"

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Correct kind Sir it was not in response to you post but the multitude of individuals who say Saudi.

But i thought most of the cockroaches were from SA..I guess there are other motives for this useless waste of time judgement.

a reply to: superman2012

Not sure where you obtained your info but the US Gov posted the pictures of 19 Saudi suspects three days after the event.
Go figure.

a reply to: dazbog

Tell someone what to believe, he'll explain you why he don't.
That's the way it goes on ATS ...
Any ambition to provide a factual statement in order to clarify your views on the topic ?

originally posted by: dazbog
a reply to: superman2012

Not sure where you obtained your info but the US Gov posted the pictures of 19 Saudi suspects three days after the event.
Go figure.

The WWW has tonnes of factual references about it.
Are you surprised that they released the names within 72 hours? Check out Operation PENTTBOM. With a defense budget dwarfing the next 8 countries, I'm surprised it took that long.

a reply to: haman10
Bloody typical yanks!! They blew their own buildings up, then blame someone else for their crimes.....the cheek. You know iran cant/wont pay any money to the USA for something they didnt do. Sounds like their using another excuse to go to war to rape the oil from the middle east again!!

a reply to: ParanoidCovKid

While I understand your position, I believe it is unwarranted and disrespectful to refer to our cousins across the sea either as yanks, or as universally responsible for the actions of their government. It is increasingly clear, or should be by now, that no matter who they have in the Oval Office at any one moment, the man and woman in the street in America has about as much say in the foreign affairs of his or her nation, as you and I do in ours at the moment.

Let's be even handed about this, and understand and acknowledge that this is typical of the US government, not of its people.

a reply to: haman10

Make it 200 Billion and make Saudis pay.

Iran had nothing to do with the thing - while Saudis had everything to do.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like the real 9/11 perps have been outed.

Maybe the 5 amigos were making a song and dance about it

www.zerohedge.com...

a reply to: TrueBrit

I agree with you, i let my typing run away with me, my bad. Your right, i cant blame the average joe for the workings of their government. They are just as powerless as we are to ours. Ive been awake 3 days straight so not thinking straight. I hope i didnt offend anyone??

originally posted by: Misterlondon
Loool... that will be Iran's reaction to this..

Maybe they send nukes instead of dollars.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I know. Crazy, huh.

This was a default judgement, because "Iran had failed to defend claims that it aided the Sept. 11 hijackers and was therefore liable for damages tied to the attacks", stemming from the original case (Havlish) which was decided against Iran.

Here is Correlation between 9/11 Hijackers and Iran

The 9/11 Commission had found that “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers.” Further, a “senior Hezbollah operative” and his associate were on some of the same flights into Iran and Beirut, Lebanon, as the 9/11 terrorists. The 9/11 Report concluded: “We believe this topic requires further investigation by the U.S. government.” 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT, p. 241. The Havlish investigation revealed that the “senior Hezbollah operative” was Imad Mughniyeh, the longtime Iranian agent and chief of Hezbollah’s terrorist operations.

and further (from 2011)

Iran's seemingly small gesture of not stamping the passports of al-Qaida operatives who came into the country was strategic and helped them come to the United States. The 9/11 Commission called the move "particularly beneficial to Saudi members of al Qaeda." Iran later provided a safe haven for some al-Qaida leaders and their families after 9/11 in anticipation of the American invasion of Afghanistan.

Hizballah's Mughniyeh, meanwhile, coordinated training for al-Qaida operatives "with Iranian government officials in Iran and with [Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps] officers working undercover at the Iranian embassy in Beirut, Lebanon," Daniels wrote.

Court Finds Iran Aided 9/11 Attacks

Basically, Daniels found Iran had a part to play, Iran did not defend claims against it, so judgement by default.

Good rt article here

Iran ordered to pay $10.5 billion for 9/11 by US judge

a reply to: haman10

How could a judge possibly make this ruling without any substantial form of evidence? And can a district judge even make claims against another nation like that? Seems to me this judge is really stretching the limits of his authority and making baseless claims without enough evidence. I can only hope other cases aren't treated with such a disrespect for scientific evidence.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

How does this make sense? Why don't they just come out and admit what many of us have been saying this entire time: Western powerbrokers (and apparently our legal system) support the Wahhabis, protect the Wahhabi regimes, supply Wahhabi "rebels" and mercenaries, and are aiding the Wahhabis in their rivalry against Iran.

Absolutely correct. At this point I don't really think they need to say it, their actions couldn't make it any clearer.

a reply to: ParanoidCovKid



We all make mistakes now and again friend. The thing I am most concerned about right now is the fact that you have had no sleep over the last seventy two hours. What has been keeping you up all this time? Are you ok?

originally posted by: Jefferton
Iran had nothing to do with 9/11.

So. Why?

Repeated for truth.
WTH??
Sue Saudi Arabia, maybe someone can't read a map.