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originally posted by: dianashay
Looking into things again recently, I've discovered that I wasn't alone in thinking that the Yemen/Saudi area was Mystery, the great whore of Babylon.
His 'throne' and the fact that he believes he has been treated like crap, taking crap and biding is time is quite humorous to some. Why not, hold up your banner and your sceptor too Satan. For now, it is a joke, but someday it will be real.
The Toilet Takes a Seat at the UN www.youtube.com...
more specifically in Teman, Yemen. Past and presently named Edom.
Mystery Babylon the great! Walid Shoebat www.youtube.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
I'm sorry, I have a huge headache and trying not to post such vagueness, but I couldn't wait anymore to get the ball rolling on this.
Anyone else have any theories on who/when or where he hides?
originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: AngryCymraeg
I'm very sorry. This is my downtime/vacation which I tend to splurge or binge on ATS. My eyes and head are hurtin' lol,
It made sense to me. Perhaps I am delirious from lack of sleep
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more
Now, let's look a little more closely at the letter and see the commendation. There's some good things to say. He says them in verse 13. "I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is." They existed at the headquarters of satanic opposition. Now people say, "Well how would you interpret that?" Well, I would just interpret it the way it's written. Satan had obviously established the center of his operation there. I don't know why, but he had. It was the headquarters for his authority. You must note also that He says here, "Where you dwell where Satan's throne is," a mark of permanent residence. Satanic power was manifest right out of that city.
During that period of time, no doubt, the church at Pergamos was founded. But it was in a very pagan atmosphere, completely perverse to Christian testimony. In the middle of that was situated this little church to which Christ addressed the letter. In fact, in verse 13 you will note that He says, "I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is." Satan's got his operations all over the world but he's got his throne there. That's quite an amazing statement. Make no mistake, my friend, his throne is not in hell, it's in this world. This is the field of his operation. Hell is the place of his incarceration, this is the place of his operation. His power was unleashed from this city and some in the Pergamos church had fallen victim to Satan and become thoroughly engulfed and meshed and even married to the world. Frankly, not persecution but this kind of compromise is the fastest way to destroy the church's life and testimony.
Now, let's look a little more closely at the letter and see the commendation. There's some good things to say. He says them in verse 13. "I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is." They existed at the headquarters of satanic opposition. Now people say, "Well how would you interpret that?" Well, I would just interpret it the way it's written. Satan had obviously established the center of his operation there. I don't know why, but he had. It was the headquarters for his authority. You must note also that He says here, "Where you dwell where Satan's throne is," a mark of permanent residence. Satanic power was manifest right out of that city.
Now just what is Satan's throne? What are we talking about? What can He mean here? Well it could refer to the emperor worship which was set up there, the worship of Caesar which then flows out pervasively through the whole Roman Empire, the first city to build a temple to Caesar. It could refer to the magnificent altar to Zeus. Zeus was sort of the head of the Pantheon, the supreme god. And one of the wonders of the world, this magnificent altar to Zeus, the largest most famous altar in the world was there. It was shaped like a huge throne. It looked like a throne and it was set on the Acropolis. The Acropolis means the highest place. They would always put their worship point at the heights in ancient times, and so they had built this famous throne, as it were, or altar to Zeus. Perhaps that was the throne of Satan.
Well, many people think Zeus’ throne is what Jesus was referring to in verse 13. And—that could be true—but here’s another possibility and it’s the one that I lean toward. You see, I think Jesus was alluding to the fact that 1st century Pergamum was the CENTER of EMPEROR WORSHIP in that part of the world. In fact, in all the empire it was the first city to build a temple dedicated to the worship of a LIVING emperor—Caesar Augustus. Now—to make sure you understand what I’m saying—in other cities—like Smyrna—you could burn your pinch of incense once a year and say, “Caesar is Lord” and then you could do as you pleased on other days. That’s how OTHER Roman cities interpreted the law that made emperor worship compulsory. But in Pergamum worshiping the emperors of Rome was a 365 day deal—so the main issue facing the believers in this city was a constant, daily pressure to deny Christ and worship the emperor as god. More than anything then, I think this contributed to making these believers FEEL as if they were living in a place where satan called the shots.
A few years later, the Apostle John wrote the Book of Revelation, mentioning the death of Antipas in Pergamum. Today, all that's left there is the foundation; the Altar of Zeus is more than a thousand miles away. In the 19th century, German engineers dismantled the altar and took it to Berlin. The so-called "Throne of Satan" went on display in the city's Pergamon Museum in 1930, just in time to inspire one of the most brutal dictators the world has ever seen.
Greek inscriptions discovered at Pergamon include the rules of the town clerks,[14] the so-called Astynomoi inscription, which has added to understanding of Greek municipal laws and regulations, including how roads were kept in repair, regulations regarding the public and private water supply and lavatories.
Greek inscriptions discovered at Pergamon include the rules of the town clerks,[14] the so-called Astynomoi inscription, which has added to understanding of Greek municipal laws and regulations, including how roads were kept in repair, regulations regarding the public and private water supply and lavatories.
Indeed the task of overseeing the institution was given to the Astynomoi, who were entrusted with tasks associated with maintaining thoroughfares such as ensuring the reputable disposal of # and abandoned corpses from the streets. A price caps of two drachmas was established to protect 'consumers' and the same officials who enforced it would also adjudicate disputes over women (by the drawing of lots of course, the women themselves were not to be consulted),
Robin A. Brace, 2006.
The practice of binding Satan and/or the demons and evil spirits is not only something which some professing Christians do during public and private "deliverance services," but it is often a personal activity exercised on a regular basis by a growing number of professing Christians. Sometimes a person will pray that Satan will be bound from blinding a person to whom they are presenting the gospel, in the belief that this will improve the likelihood of that person trusting Christ as his Saviour. This would seem to be a more biblically acceptable practice. On other occasions 'binding' is not applied to individuals, but to buildings or to areas of a town. People sometimes attempt to bind Satan and his demons from certain locations, such as a new house which a person will be moving into, or a new church building. Sometimes a particular location within a city or neighborhood is the subject of such 'binding' attempts. Occasionally, prayers are offered that a future planned event would be protected from the influence of the demonic by binding the demons from having influence in relation to that particular event.
Arab comes from “Arabah” meaning “Wilderness”; “Mixture of People” and “Steppe”; it has nothing to do with Muhammad or Islam. Scottish would use the term “Highlander”; Tartan, the Assyrian Army Chief who took Israel captive replaced the 10 tribes with a mixture of people who identify their “Clans” (Kinsmen) with Tartan Cloth aka Phoenician Cloth. Braveheart? Arab for spiritual reasons; Egyptian/Scythian likely by genealogy. Iraq, for example became home to Mandean Gnostics, Johnitters (progenitors of Knight Templars who venerated the Severed Head “Death’s Head” under the guise of John the Baptist) and Yezhidis (Devil worshippers focused on Water Baptism). That’s the Northern component; Sabeans are the Southern component holding Jerusalem captive.
Job 1:6-7
"Now there was a day when the Sons of God (Bene Elohim) came to present themselves before the Lord (YHWH), and Satan came also among them.
And the Lord (YHWH) said unto Satan, "Whence comest thou?"
Then Satan answered the Lord (YHWH), and said, "From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."