Ohio Landscaper Encounters 8-Feet-Tall ‘Gorilla’

originally posted by: semperfortis
Looking at the math, it would at first glance indicate the impossibility of a large, bipedal species being able to exist and maintain population without discovery. However, how does one completely disregard sightings from decent, responsible people?

The best kind of explanation I've ever heard is that human beings have a kind of built-in predisposition to see these kinds of things. Sort of like the way we see faces in clouds and Mars rocks. It's a psychological-perceptual thing, possibly held over from when we were hairy arboreal primates ourselves. We see a hunter or a bear or some other shadowy thing, and suddenly it's transformed in our minds into a Bigfoot.

As for the physical evidence, namely the footprints (since the hair and scat samples all seem to be from bears), it's hard to rule out hoaxes or changes in the mud and dirt over time to ordinary footprints by bears, big cats, or even people wandering around in the woods.

I'm a "fan" of Bigfoot, and would like as much as anybody for one to be definitively discovered. It would be super cool. But that seems very unlikely.

a reply to: semperfortis

Who is to say, in this world of genetic tomfoolery, that a previously considered-to-be extinct species isn't wandering around once more?

Gigantopithecus Blacki wiki

As you said, and to paraphrase: There are more things in heaven and Earth than you could shake a damned stick at.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Blaine91555



How is the bear population in Ohio? I've no idea.

I live a few miles north of this area, we seem to hear of black bear sightings quite often.
In fact they had tranquilized one in our middle school yard when I was in school (30+ yrs ago)




Not the sighting I mentioned, but does show how common they are becoming in this area.
wkbn.com...

a reply to: jtrenthacker

There is very good reason to believe however that a black bear would not stand up like that in the presence of a dog and human. It would be long gone or up a tree. Now thats in Ohio where they are not real comfortable and juvenile. The young dudes swim across the Ohio River and then find out there are no chick bears and head back to Tennessee or New York, Smokey and Appalachian mountains.

I've spent a large part of my life in wilderness areas and encountered bears many times..

While I have observed them raising up on their hind legs, I've never seen nor heard of them "walking" on them. Except of course in a circus..

It is definitely an interesting report...

a reply to: seagull

I will definitely come see you when you get to TN brother..

We will do a Bigfoot hunt!!!!

originally posted by: Blaine91555

I can't help but think that most sightings are a case of mistaken identity.

No way, dude. There's something out there.

a reply to: semperfortis

www.youtube.com...

Kinda funny looking to me.

a reply to: seagull

I don't disagree and I know people I trust, even in my family when I was young, who had a sighting and I know them to be honest.

My mind remains open to this.

originally posted by: semperfortis
I've spent a large part of my life in wilderness areas and encountered bears many times..

While I have observed them raising up on their hind legs, I've never seen nor heard of them "walking" on them. Except of course in a circus..

It is definitely an interesting report...

I've seen one standing on a hill in Idaho take a few steps before dropping back down. Looked like he was surveying the area. I've also seen Brown Bear here do the same a time or three. They can make it a few steps, but I doubt much more than that.

Like I said I don't discount this as being possible.

a reply to: Snarl

Hey man, don't ruin my vibe. I said I was open to this.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Thy are hard to see when one is running away or escaping .

originally posted by: semperfortis

Ohio Landscaper Encounters 8-Feet-Tall ‘Gorilla’

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

Hamlett's assumption doesn't it make any more, or any less probable, that a species of 8' tall gorilla like creatures are running around Ohio uncatalogued though. Decent, responsible people have encounters with all sorts of things. If it walks the earth it leaves genuine unambiguous traces of doing so. A species like this remaining uncatalogued in such areas for so long would require some sort of technology or magic. Something else is going on here. Something that doesn't involve a real biological species.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Here one nice bear stading against tree on the hill and looking down the landscape, (I don;t know how to put the photo here); encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...:ANd9GcTLpRTj0BEUiUKjmxGQnScZYaA7MDJUYyXS-K36zEdWzAeIjjhQ0A

Here more of famous bears in Finland; ______beforeitsnews/animals-pets/2016/03/artist-and-yogi-bears-waking-up-from-hibernation-in-finland-2457314.html

I never heard in Finland sigtings of bigfoot or so.
In this case what the man saw might be a bit exaggeration of the height, people often do, or make wrong estimates.

What was the man's dog doing? My dog would be going nuts and chases everything.

a reply to: semperfortis

We didn't find Gorilla bones until AFTER we discovered them. We still don't find many bones of chimps, or many animals for that matter. The probability of a Bigfoot out there is very high considering the size of forests around the world.

Many have no idea how big just America's forests are.

originally posted by: Flesh699
a reply to: semperfortis

We didn't find Gorilla bones until AFTER we discovered them. We still don't find many bones of chimps, or many animals for that matter. The probability of a Bigfoot out there is very high considering the size of forests around the world.

Many have no idea how big just America's forests are.

One flaw in that argument is that we have the creatures themselves. You are possibly talking about mountain gorillas when specimens were collected by chance? That would have happened to bigfoot long ago if it existed. Lowland gorillas were thought to exist because along with sightings and stories, skulls were found, that's why people looked for them. Same with the Bili Ape.


The problem with bigfoot is that no one has ever offered verifiable scientific evidence to suggest that it exists. What is worse is that everything that has been offered, when scrutinised, has been not bigfoot (usually a hoax). It is looking less and less likely these things exist as a biological species, anywhere.

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: semperfortis
I've spent a large part of my life in wilderness areas and encountered bears many times..

While I have observed them raising up on their hind legs, I've never seen nor heard of them "walking" on them. Except of course in a circus..

It is definitely an interesting report...

I've seen one standing on a hill in Idaho take a few steps before dropping back down. Looked like he was surveying the area. I've also seen Brown Bear here do the same a time or three. They can make it a few steps, but I doubt much more than that.

Like I said I don't discount this as being possible.

You're right. A bear can walk a few steps on their hind legs only, but even then, they certainly don't walk with a gait similar to that of a man, or any other walking Bigfoot video I've seen. I don't believe many people with decent eyesight would confuse a bear walking on hind legs to a man, or a Bigfoot.

a reply to: semperfortis

originally posted by: semperfortisHowever, how does one completely disregard sightings from decent, responsible people?

That's where I scratch my head and wonder. Up until about a dozen years ago, I thought that Bigfoot/Sasquatch was only found in Washington and Northern Calif.

In the 1970s in Los Angeles, I remember reading several newspaper reports of sightings in the local mountains. I laughed them off as drunk fishermen or stoned college students. I moved away to another part of California, where another local report came in (early 1980s), but again that sighting was attributed to alcohol and a mistaken sighting of, get this, "mating mountain lions".

Then about a dozen years ago, my husband and I were taking a favorite day hike, when I happened to spot something I had never seen along the trail before. I laughed and pointed it out to him, "Look, honey, a Bigfoot nest!" haha I tried to convince myself that the "structure" I saw had been constructed by kids or hunters.... 7 foot kids or hunters! And it was built in a location that didn't make sense for hunters. I just thought of it as something strange.

Then about a year later, I was going through some Bigfoot reports at BFRO, when I happened to come across a sighting that was in the same time and just a few miles away from where I had seen the "nest". It was a lengthy report, credible. A family member HAD seen something, and the family all had heard sounds. That's when I started to look at reports from outside of Washington and Nor Cal.

And there are reports of sounds that are not like any sounds heard before, not attributable to any known animal. If they are close to an animal, it would be a primate. While not sightings, these are credible sound reports I also find interesting.

We've had bears lean on our travel trailer, pick up, or glass slider door without making a sound. An old hunter, when I had asked about anything strange he had happen in re to maybe a Bigfoot, related a story about being woken up at night by loud bangs on the side of his camper, and in the morning finding his 400 lb elk carcass, that had been strung up high away from bears, missing. He was hunting near Ape Canyon in Wash at the time.

To me, credible witnesses are seeing or hearing something. Something that looks or sounds like a primate. That 1980s sighting I mentioned above, I now believe was a credible sighting. Sure, there are false, mistaken, or hoax reports, but I think that fear of ridicule holds back quite a few reports.

Perhaps this is a hybrid of the nephilim and the missing evolutionary link, thus uniting creationism and evolution in royal marriage.