Tear gas used on migrants at Macedonia border and in Calais Jungle. Welcome to EU!

originally posted by: alldaylong
There is one major negative if The U.K. leaves The E.U.

At present U.K. immigration checks are carried out in Belgium and France, under the Juxtaposed Controls. Information here:-

en.wikipedia.org...

If The U.K. pulls out of The E.U. then those immigration controls will be pulled back to The U.K. The French & Belgium's will just let those
illegal immigrants sail on it Britain and then it becomes our problem.

Massive fines for train and ferry companies for each illegal they allow to travel on their service.
Same as humble lorry drivers get £2000 a stowaway if I recall correctly. £20,000 per stowaway and those men won't be leaving port on a ship or the trains, any time soon, the businesses will make sure of it.

No need for any fear or scaremongering with that issue if reasoned minds think about things.
Not calling you a scaremonger, just presenting the most obvious solution to that if the French stick the fingers to us.
Yeah, there could be transitional chaos, but ships and trains stuck in France damages the French as well...I say call them out on it, a toothless threat.

a reply to: alldaylong
Easy if our border staff do their job correctly they shouldnt let them set foot on British soil. Just send them back. We wont have the EU law stopping us from doing so so any that do make it through will be deported far quicket and easier than the present system and if too many come through the tunnel from France then we could temporarily close the tunnel until France start playing fair. We managed without the tunnel before we can manage without it again if it comes to it.

Nazis were in France in the Second World War and they didnt manage to invade us so I am dam sure if the will was there we could deter migrants we are afterall an islandand it served us well for a few hundred years.

a reply to: anxiouswens

It's a lame fear cry by the 'remain' crowd who forget to remind you that nobody gets on a plane without a passport, so the same boarding pass checks and all the rest of it, can easily apply to trains and ferries.
Threaten the companies with massive penalty charges for each illegal they carry and they will put a stop to it with increased ship/train security that is guaranted.
Nothing the French can do about that, it's a toothless threat I say again.

no need to make private businesses liable for screening or vetting passengers as bad-minded immigrants... that's the governments' job to protect the citizenry from those churls and undisciplined thugs...

the best short term remedy is to quickly develop a 48 hour eye irritant that blinds the vagrant butt-holes from doing damage to the general population then hunt down the rest of the belligerents that were captured on camera but evaded the 48 hour tear-gas...

conduct criminal sentences on them as savvy-enough as an ulterior motivated Saboteur~Anarchist to have evaded the 48 hour tear-gas on being specially trained in such evasion ~ thus~ a criminal element who was thwarted in their commission-of-s-crime against the population of peaceful persons


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originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: anxiouswens

A lot of migrants are economic migrants and so therefore are illegal.

People need to be reminded that its their own responsibility if they choose to journey to a country they have no right to enter legally.

Ummm...wasn't it Europe and of course the progs here in the states that called Donald Trump the Antichrist and Hitler...for saying the very same thing...and for suggesting we build a wall...not too unlike the ones springing up all over Socialism land...err Europe...?

YouSir

It sure was. The evil trump is now more affectionate because he promises to build 'better walls', and to carry out mass round ups and deportations. Music to EU denizen's ears.

Hah EU, suck on the blow back from being a member of NATO.

Imagine if just one of those in these camps has Ebola or worse... those in ?Calais or those coming off the boats from Greece? There would be mass problems.