pH kills cancer and an update on my father-in-law who killed his cancer in 3 weeks!

I know someone who was given 6 months to live with cancer and he decided he wanted 6 months of quality life before he died and refused treatment. That was 4 years ago and he is still healthy and alive. What did he do or change? Absolutely nothing. By your reckoning I should be telling everyone not to have treatment and live their life and they will be cured.

I will not do that because it is irresponsible, unrealistic and also very stupid. A few comments on a website does not dismiss the hundreds of thousands of people that have benefited from cancer treatments.

You are not a cancer specialist and should not be stating something as fact. OtherSideOfTheCoin quite rightly pointed this out to you ... so you start another thread on the board and business forum saying ATS is going down hill and there are too many shills.

How old are you?

a reply to: Rezlooper

Your games are laughable. Your attempts to mislead are laughable. That's why you are a joke.

You are taking this all very personally I do not intend to insult you, if you find me warning of the dangerous of your advice then tough deal with, but deal with it like a adult rather than resorting to these kind of silly lines.

Why don't you go read the original thread. The entire history is there from PSA tests, to physical tests, his initial diagnosis and a whole lot more,

The other thread is pretty huge, if you have definitive proof of something then post it here.

To be clear i mean proof that this diet cured cancer.

instead of coming on this thread like some novice

So says the guy giving out amateur health care advice again I just want to quote this, you actually said this on this thread and its is a perfect demonstration of how unsafe your advice is

"It doesn't mean they give up on conventional means at all, it means they put that surgery off just a couple more weeks..."

A month after he started the plan, he went to his regular doctor who at that time told him the tumor was gone, softened, whatever

Really so the Doctor just toll him that a month later just like this, what tests did he do to reach this conclusion also I once again think your talking bollocks because you have also claimed on this thread that for over a year the Doctors were denying that his cancer was gone yet now you are saying it was gone after a month on this diet. Something doesn't sound right there.

So, all signs of cancer were gone, but the doctor wouldn't say he was cancer-free

ahhh right there the answer the doctor said his cancer was gone but not that he was "cancer-free".... can anyone else smell that....?

You can play your games and try to mislead

I am not misleading anyone I am warning people this is potentially unsafe, it is you who is being misleading by trying to present this as a cure for cancer with out showing any reputable scientific evidence to back it up.

Either way, my father-in-law is living proof that the treatment works, and plus, there are pages worth of testimonials on that website

let me say this nice and clear.

THAT IS NOT PROOF!!!

That is just a page on a website, there are pages all over the internet claiming HIV and AIDS can also be cured if you stop taking anti-viral medication for example. A page on the internet proves nothing, unless you have a solid scientific basis for this your claims are worthless. Unless you can show us double blind peer reviewed studies and clinical trails as well as documented real world clinical case studies this is all worthless.

Again your claim is that you cured cancer with this and that is what you have to prove and the truth is that you cant!!

So again please stop giving out all this dangerous advice and false hope when you are not qualified to do so

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Hey welcome back! Glad you could make it.

What's more dangerous than hacking into, irradiating and poisoning the body and then dying pretty much immediately anyway?

The "amateur medical advice" being given here seems like a valid option at least in-addition-to, if not entirely instead-of the "professional medical misery-followed-by-death" strategy so often employed.

You like chemo and surgery and radiation. Great. Have at it.

Nothing wrong with the possibility of a more thorough and rapid recovery using holistic methods.

Unless of course you have stock in the other.

a reply to: Urantia1111

Holistic cures have been around for time immemorial. Western cures have medical proof behind them. There are many folk who believe in either side of the coin.

I don't think anyone has the right to berate either option, irrespective of "proof". Evidence is enough for anyone to try whatever they feel would benefit them.

originally posted by: chaztekno
Thanks for the heads up and good diet advice, just a quick question though? is there any special type/brand of molasses you go for or will any do?

Organic is probably best. G used Grandma's brand unsulphured original molasses. Also, we have organic.

a reply to: Urantia1111

What a cruel post.

You like chemo and surgery and radiation. Great. Have at it.

You think i like it, are you sick?

Do you think i enjoyed watching them hack my mother open to cut out the disease that was killing her do you think i then enjoyed watching them pump her veins with poison and blasting her with radiation. Do you think when she sat me and my brothers and sisters down one Friday night to tell us that none of it had been worth anything and that she had weeks to live I didn't just want to go grab a tub ob baking soda and cure her myself!

Jesus this is what is so twisted with this thread.

Its so personal, so presumptuous seems to be more about being right than actually being right, its about winning the debate and believe me this is something i would love to be wrong about i would just love it if i could give my dad a cup of soda and cure the cancer that is now ravaging his body but i cant.

So please to you and to the OP, stop being morons and show a little sensitivity to what is a very sensitive subject.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

There are real life stories of successful cures to cancer without conventional means. I suppose they are all making this stuff up, and to serve what purpose. You on the other hand, have a purpose to serve, the protection of billions of dollars in profits yearly in the medical and pharmaceutical industries treating cancer and all the other ailments, rather than curing anything. Nothing is cured anymore and why is that?

a reply to: Rezlooper

Can we get a recipe please ? i love recipes

a reply to: Rezlooper
Yes, there are some stories. Stories don't equal reality.

Despite widespread claims, there is no evidence to support the use of any CAM treatment as a replacement for conventional cancer care. As the studies in breast cancer show, delaying treatment or substituting CAM for conventional cancer care dramatically worsens outcomes.The results of these studies will hopefully provide patients and health providers with a better understanding of the risks and consequences of CAM for cancer. CAM is no alternative to science-based cancer care.

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...

Nothing is cured anymore

False. I was cured. Many others have been.

originally posted by: Jaellma
a reply to: Urantia1111

Holistic cures have been around for time immemorial. Western cures have medical proof behind them. There are many folk who believe in either side of the coin.

I don't think anyone has the right to berate either option, irrespective of "proof". Evidence is enough for anyone to try whatever they feel would benefit them.

Thank you for the sensible comment. That is what I am trying to say, that there is nothing wrong with a cancer patient taking things into his own hands and giving himself a couple of weeks to try another option, while surgery or another form of conventional treatment remains on the table. That is what we did with my father-in-law. He elected to have the surgery if the baking soda plan failed, but fortunately, it didn't. They, on the other side, vehemently fight tooth and nail against even the idea that anything other than their BIG 3 options could ever help save a life. But, the proof is in the pudding... alternative cures do work.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Delaying cancer treatment for any reason is a bad idea.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Urantia1111

What a cruel post.

You like chemo and surgery and radiation. Great. Have at it.

You think i like it, are you sick?

Do you think i enjoyed watching them hack my mother open to cut out the disease that was killing her do you think i then enjoyed watching them pump her veins with poison and blasting her with radiation. Do you think when she sat me and my brothers and sisters down one Friday night to tell us that none of it had been worth anything and that she had weeks to live I didn't just want to go grab a tub ob baking soda and cure her myself!

Jesus this is what is so twisted with this thread.

Its so personal, so presumptuous seems to be more about being right than actually being right, its about winning the debate and believe me this is something i would love to be wrong about i would just love it if i could give my dad a cup of soda and cure the cancer that is now ravaging his body but i cant.

So please to you and to the OP, stop being morons and show a little sensitivity to what is a very sensitive subject.

So, what did you have to lose after everything failed her? At that point, with just weeks to live, why the hell wouldn't you try something else. Because of your arrogance and your brainwashed way of thinking, you chose death.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Rezlooper

Delaying cancer treatment for any reason is a bad idea.

Phage, I'm not going to argue with you that the BIG 3 options may not work. They sometimes do and you are living proof of that, but it does come at a great cost of a lot of pain and misery. Sure, many people get cured every day from the cutting, poisoin or burning, but it doesn't mean people shouldn't try alternative therapies, especially when all else has failed.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Sure, many people get cured every day from the cutting, poisoin or burning, but it doesn't mean people shouldn't try alternative therapies, especially when all else has failed.

I agree. I disagree that alternative therapies should be the first choice. With most forms of cancer, time is of the essence.

a reply to: Phage

In my father-in-laws case, his was slow moving. We were mostly worried about it metastisizing into the bones or elsewhere. So, he had the time. In some of these testimonials, they are talking about major improvements in a matter of three days. In just a few days they noticed whether it was working or not.

The two friends who I lost this year were both in advanced stages and also had gone through conventional means, but both were told right away, from the beginning, there wasn't much they could do for them. One is a brain tumor, the other was a blood cancer, the same one that Tom Brokaw got sick with. In both of these cases, they had nothing to lose and I wish they had at least tried it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Rezlooper

Nothing is cured anymore

False. I was cured. Many others have been.

You were remissed. They won't use the words cured anymore. Because, as the so-called experts have said to us, cancer is never really killed... it always lives in there and can't be cured. I don't believe that, BTW. I believe you were cured.

Some science for you. No causal link established.

Examining the relationship between diet-induced acidosis and cancer

originally posted by: Morrad
I know someone who was given 6 months to live with cancer and he decided he wanted 6 months of quality life before he died and refused treatment. That was 4 years ago and he is still healthy and alive. What did he do or change? Absolutely nothing. By your reckoning I should be telling everyone not to have treatment and live their life and they will be cured.

I will not do that because it is irresponsible, unrealistic and also very stupid. A few comments on a website does not dismiss the hundreds of thousands of people that have benefited from cancer treatments.

You are not a cancer specialist and should not be stating something as fact. OtherSideOfTheCoin quite rightly pointed this out to you ... so you start another thread on the board and business forum saying ATS is going down hill and there are too many shills.

How old are you?

What's irresponsible is you comparing your statement of doing nothing to what I have posted in my threads. There are countless alternative treatments, but according to you, they are doing nothing. lol.

a reply to: Rezlooper

You were remissed.

False. My oncologist proclaimed me cured of Hodgkins. I agreed.

They won't use the words cured anymore.

False
www.pamf.org...
www.cancerresearchuk.org...

a reply to: Rezlooper

Am guessing even in the face of evidence you will not admit to being wrong on this

seems like you care more about being right than anything else right now