pH kills cancer and an update on my father-in-law who killed his cancer in 3 weeks!

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Rezlooper

No medical science doesn't prove salt cures cancer.

salt that causes health problems and hypertension is sodium chloride. We are talking about sodium bicarbonate which has the opposite effect and everyone debating on this thread knows that. It's funny that they don't set you straight on that and let you spew this nonsense that sodium bicarbonate is the unhealthy killer in our hamburgers. It doesn't serve their purpose to point that out to you though.

Let's go over this again.
Here's the chemical reaction when drinking baking soda
HCl(aq) + NaHCO3(s) = NaCl(aq) + H2O(l) + CO2(g)

The acid reacts with the baking soda to form common salt, water and CO2
If too much is taken the excess baking soda will be converted in the kidneys to NaCl and HCO3 which will be excreted in your urine (most of it anyway, if the body needs any of it it will be absorbed).
The important thing is that either way, you'll be consuming a small amount of common salt and if you're taking in realtively large amount s of baking soda then your intake of salt will also be increased.

a reply to: Phage

But it has resulted in some interesting things, don't you think?

For sure we live in interesting times, both science and technology have allowed us to view things in ways that would not have been conceived without it....

I have no doubt modern medicine has increased our lifespans and for the most part benefits us all....i also believe that there are alternatives and these very same alternative are shunned by the profession ....

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

i also believe that there are alternatives and these very same alternative are shunned by the profession ....

Yes. For the same reason the idea that the Sun moves around the Earth is shunned. There is too much evidence to the contrary.

Show some actual evidence, real evidence, to the contrary and that would change. In the meantime, saying "eat baking soda, it will cure you" will kill more people a lot sooner than listening to what the science says will.

originally posted by: Rezlooper
And here is her blog from December 2013, several weeks later and after keeping a log of pH. Urine pH.

As we have begun our journey to nip the bladder cancer recurrences in the bud, it’s been an interesting pH learning experience since his surgery. Below are the levels he’s documented, each line representing a day. The first number always represent the first thing in the morning. Another one (or two) might represent afternoon, and another evening. They are all urine and with the use of a pH strip.

Most of these days, he was doing one tsp sodium bicarbonate, and if he needed a second tsp to keep his levels up, it was potassium bicarbonate.

7.00, 7.25
6.25, 7.25, 7.00
6.75, 7.50, 7.50
7.50, 7.50, 7.50
6.50, 7.25, 7.50
8.00, 7.50
6.00, 7.00, 7.50, 8.00
5.75, 7.25, 7.25
7.00, 7.50, 6.50, 7.25
7.00, 8.00, 7.50
7.25, 6.50, 7.50, 7.00
6.25, 7.25
6.00, 7.25
5.50, 7.25, 6.25

Turns out that it’s pretty normal to have a morning urine pH in the mid-to upper 6’s, but he also has several below 6.5.

In a pH balanced body, urine is slightly acid in the morning, (pH = 6.5 – 7.0) generally becoming more alkaline (pH = 7.5 – 8.0) by evening in healthy people primarily because no food or beverages are consumed while sleeping. Whereas, during the day the body buffers the pH of the food and beverages consumed by releasing electrolytes and the pH level goes up. This process allows the kidneys to begin the elimination process slowly.

Outside the range implies that cells are being burdened with caustic pH fluids within and without surroundings. Long term experience outside this range is unhealthy. However, the pH of urine can range from an extremely unhealthy low of 4.5 to a high if 8.5, which it tolerates a little easier, depending on the acid/base status of the extracellular fluids. A high pH value may indicate the body is over buffering to compensate for a physiological system that is too acidic.

There are mornings he’s waking up too acidic. And this mornings 5.50?? He ate PEANUTS at bedtime. VERY acidic and a mistake we learned from!

We also had his sodium and potassium tested:

SODIUM 139 (134 – 144)
POTASSIUM 4.7 (3.5 – 5.2)

And I was shocked at both! Expected his sodium to be higher, and didn’t expect the potassium to be that high. The higher potassium may be from the combination of the tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar he takes daily for his acid reflux (which takes it away), and the potassium bicarbonate. So a change he will make is to only use the sodium bicarbonate/baking soda to keep himself where it should be.

We’re hanging in there with great hope!

Urine pH is not an indicator of body pH.
It's waste.
It's what the body doesn't need so it gets rid of it.

sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Phage

But it has resulted in some interesting things, don't you think?

For sure we live in interesting times, both science and technology have allowed us to view things in ways that would not have been conceived without it....

I have no doubt modern medicine has increased our lifespans and for the most part benefits us all....i also believe that there are alternatives and these very same alternative are shunned by the profession ....

Read this.
www.slate.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

i also believe that there are alternatives and these very same alternative are shunned by the profession ....

Yes. For the same reason the idea that the Sun moves around the Earth is shunned. There is too much evidence to the contrary.

Show some actual evidence, real evidence, to the contrary and that would change. In the meantime, saying "eat baking soda, it will cure you" will kill more people a lot sooner than listening to what the science says will.

True but surely you can agree that what we believe to be the only solution today may be very different to what is a solution in the future, we are far from perfecting our medical science and will be changing and improving both treatments and procedures for the foreseeable time to come

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Yes. That is the nature of science. It is never "perfect." Cancer treatment has progressed beyond what I experienced. People do not get as sick from chemo as I did. The protocols are more refined, the treatment of side effects improved.

Will science produce a "cure for cancer?" Not any time soon. Why? Because "cancer" is not a thing. It is a multitude of different things. Why? Because there are many, many cases where the cancer has progressed very far before it is diagnosed (or before treatment is begun).

But that's ok, because if you eat baking soda everything will be fine and there are no side effects. Helps with heartburn too.

a reply to: Phage

Will science produce a "cure for cancer?" Not any time soon. Why? Because "cancer" is not a thing. It is a multitude of different things. Why? Because there are many, many cases where the cancer has progressed very far before it is diagnosed (or before treatment is begun). But that's ok, because if you eat baking soda everything will be fine and there are no side effects. Helps with heartburn too.

The first time i heard a description of cancer similar to this was reading about Royal Raymond Rife, he describes cancer as a living organism...interesting...

Look you have a valid point eating baking soda to cure cancer sounds preposterous, i am just not sure we can completely write off these possibilities no matter how obscure they seem....I can safely say in 100 years from now people will look at cancer fixes like chemo as a barbaric and medieval type of practices

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

.I can safely say in 100 years from now people will look at cancer fixes like chemo as a barbaric and medieval type of practices

One can hope. But if so it will be science which provides the methodology, not internet bloggers. Not snake oil salesmen (like Rife).

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

.I can safely say in 100 years from now people will look at cancer fixes like chemo as a barbaric and medieval type of practices

One can hope. But if so it will be science which provides the methodology, not internet bloggers. Not snake oil salesmen (like Rife).

Agreed except for the Rife bit, he may have been discredited but a pioneer none the less...even to the point of a possible conspiracy of defamation...maybe he did cure cancer ..his science is still being used today...unless this is false information..

Royal Raymond Rife was a brilliant scientist born in 1888 and died in 1971. After studying at Johns Hopkins, Rife developed technology which is still commonly used today in the fields of optics, electronics, radiochemistry, biochemistry, ballistics, and aviation. It is a fair statement that Rife practically developed bioelectric medicine himself. He received 14 major awards and honors and was given an honorary Doctorate by the University of Heidelberg for his work. During the 66 years that Rife spent designing and building medical instruments, he worked for Zeiss Optics, the U.S. Government, and several private benefactors. Most notable was millionaire Henry Timkin, of Timkin roller bearing fame.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

What a nice quote. Often repeated. As are many things on the internet.

a reply to: Phage

I like it........have a good night

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: Rezlooper
Here's a great analogy for those who just can't figure this out.

For example when acid rain ‘’kills’’ a lake. That means that the fish will die because the acid in the lake will ‘’bind up’’ all of the oxygen. It will just no longer be available. If you make the lake more alkaline, oxygen will be available and the lake will come back to life. This means that hydrogen ions tie up oxygen. The more acid a liquid is, the less available oxygen in it. We all know the fact that evey cell in our body needs oxygen for life and to be in a good healthy condition. Now lets notice that cancer is related to an acid environment- if the pH is higher that means that more oxygen will be in the cells of the body , it will be hard for the cancer to develop. This explains why alkaline water helps you with the fight against cancer.

Lets see if you can rebuke these scientific facts shall we?

You go first!

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

in saying that do you know of any businesses that specifically run to lose money ?

No. That would be stupid and would constitute something other than a business, by definition. But that is different from what you said:

in fact any business that is in business for profit will always choose profit over individuals

Unless, of course, you accept a false dichotomy as a fact.

So, in your perfect world, Phage, there isn't a bad businessperson anywhere. Not a bad mechanic. Not a bad used car salesmen. Everyone in your world would never think about taking advantage of you for your money. Man, wish we all could have your life. Where did I go wrong?

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: Rezlooper

So are you prepared to be held responsible for the advice you've been giving?

I thought I'd pop back here after doing some more digging.

I notice, Rez, you liked to link to something on natural news about this (fake) cure. Would you like to see what I found on the same website?

NATURAL NEWS

Yep, that's right. The same place you linked to saying how great it is also has an article showing you where you are wrong.

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: Rezlooper

I am glad your father in law is doing well, but Vernon 'Vito' Johnston died of cancer. His good friend said so on their shared facebook page: www.facebook.com...

Go to post 22 July 2015.
I'm not sure whether you knew or not.

This is true...nice find

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Phage

Will science produce a "cure for cancer?" Not any time soon. Why? Because "cancer" is not a thing. It is a multitude of different things. Why? Because there are many, many cases where the cancer has progressed very far before it is diagnosed (or before treatment is begun). But that's ok, because if you eat baking soda everything will be fine and there are no side effects. Helps with heartburn too.

The first time i heard a description of cancer similar to this was reading about Royal Raymond Rife, he describes cancer as a living organism...interesting...

Look you have a valid point eating baking soda to cure cancer sounds preposterous, i am just not sure we can completely write off these possibilities no matter how obscure they seem....I can safely say in 100 years from now people will look at cancer fixes like chemo as a barbaric and medieval type of practices

By then a lot of de-population would have occurred either through war or some sterilizing technique. Only time will tell if the world will have access to natural cures by then. My guess is NOT.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I thought I'd pop back here after doing some more digging.

I notice, Rez, you liked to link to something on natural news about this (fake) cure. Would you like to see what I found on the same website?

NATURAL NEWS

Yep, that's right. The same place you linked to saying how great it is also has an article showing you where you are wrong.

The only thing that could be wrong in the link is the use of molasses in curing cancer according to this quote:

However, it is impossible to keep a combination of baking soda and molasses/maple syrup intact once it enters the digestive system. Even if the digestive system somehow failed to break the combination down, such a combination would be far too large to enter the bloodstream.

So this molasses is just a substitute for sugar...which cancer cells love...but once in digestive system molasses separates from the baking soda. So isn't this counter to what you are trying to do...prevent cancer growth? Why not cut out molasses from diet?