pH kills cancer and an update on my father-in-law who killed his cancer in 3 weeks!

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Sorry to hear about your family members. I lost my dad to lung cancer and my grand father. Its a pretty big problem and we need better solutions. Cheaper ones too.

I don't understand what your asking of Rez? You want him to produce statistics?

Promote the conventional 33% if that is good enough for you. You are free as a bird and so are we.

I asked for a simple cure rate question. Nothing even stated that I was being rude I get ignored.

I lost my first step-dad to leukemia, my second to prostate cancer. I've been around cancer most of my years on this planet (37 soon). I know the effects of chemo.

My first step-dad got diagnosed with leukemia and got told he had 6 months to a year. Chemo and radiation gave him the better part of 10 years.

My second step-dad got given 3 months (he missed a checkup and it got found and his next one a year later). He got told 3-6 months. He lasted 2 and a half years with chemo.

My wife, her husband and her brother have tried so many of these so called "natural cures" it is unbelievable. No change in their cancers (outside normal progression) whatsoever.

This bicarb of soda is a new one to me (and my wife) so I thought I'd ask what the success rate was.

Conventional medicine success rate=33%(+ or -)
Natural (or alternative) success rate=??

Sorry, i took it you are trying to be rude. Like so many others on this thread. They are very aggressive and I am done with them. There is no success rate because there are only a few testimonials, and no actual studies. I am one testimonial.

But there's testimonials out there for all sorts of cancer cures.
Bicarbonate soda, oxygen, lemons, tea, coffee, milk, water, broccoli and the list goes on.

My problem is there's no data. No control. There's way too many variables to say something worked.

I'm not saying this is the case, but how do you know it's not malignant and didn't change/shrink by itself and it's pure coincidence that you were feeding your father-in-law bicarb of soda?

a reply to: TerryDon79

So you agree that plants are the baseline for most of yhe biggest sellers, the source code since they were here before their synthetic forms. Like the willow tree was here before aspirine and poppy flower before heroin. Where is the baseline for chemo? Radiation? I have to look in to that.

Your right, you are free to decide for yourself, because in the end the doctor will say the same thing, he can only show you the door you must go though it willingly.

Anyway, I am going to fight cancer in my sleep now. Goodnight nice chatting with you. Good luck on your quest.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I just did a very simply google search of "bicarbonate of soda cancer cure rates" and the FIRST link appear?

Cancer Research UK. Don't believe the Hype - 10 persistent cancer myths debunked

Myth 1: Cancer is a man-made, modern disease
Myth 2: Superfoods prevent cancer
Myth 3: ‘Acidic’ diets cause cancer
Myth 4: Cancer has a sweet tooth
Myth 5: Cancer is a fungus – and sodium bicarbonate is the cure
Myth 6: There’s a miracle cancer cure…
Myth 7: …And Big Pharma are suppressing it
Myth 8: Cancer treatment kills more than it cures
Myth 9: We’ve made no progress in fighting cancer
Myth 10: Sharks don’t get cancer

Any of them look familiar?

Without even clicking into the link.... I wonder who sponsored the site?

Cancer Research UK.
As the title says.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Testimonial doesn't = proof

And let us not forget that

Testimonial doesn't = nothing either

I am sure there are 100s of examples of testimonials in the medical world about cures that turned out to be true. They don't all come from extensive, exhaustive secret chemical formulas that need super scientific minds to work out. Some are and some stem from dumb luck.

Most scientist in the medical industry copy what is already available in nature, they isolate the active ingredient, synthesize it so they can patent and sell it. All anti-depressant copied from a plant, viagra from a plant, aspirine plant, the list can go on and on. The patent is not applied on the plant itself because that is not how you make money, you need to make a slightly altered copy of it. Nature cannot be patented, at least for now.

If someone wants to follow conventional methods and absolutely need scientific papers than they have that option. If I had cancer I would like to know ALL my options and I would try the simplest, less invasive and easiest first.

Testimonial means nothing without proof. Every testimonial on that site is anonymous with nothing to back it up. Surely if it was real there would have been one person who took the time to compile a comprehensive list of everything done, when it was done, how it was done etc. And it would be repeatable with data and results. But ALL there is is testimonials. No data ANYWHERE to be found. (trust me. Me and my wife have looked everywhere for some data on this and many other alternative medicines).

As for some of those medicines being derived from nature? Well of course. Everything is from nature. There is not a single thing on this planet that wasn't already here in some form or another.

I would like to point out about Viagra though. You do know that Viagra is actually a production of a series of failed tests and side effects? It wasn't originally meant to be what it is now.

Once you again, you are like the rest, bending the truth to fit your agenda. I just posted several posts from a lady who wrote a blog tracking her success with baking soda on her husbands bladder cancer. She was a testimonial on that site. There is also another testimonial who wrote a blog. Donald Porter wrote extensively about his success. I am writing about our success. I wrote a lot, posted a lot, photos of doctor records and all on the other thread. But, that doesn't fit into your agenda, so ignore it.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I just did a very simply google search of "bicarbonate of soda cancer cure rates" and the FIRST link appear?

Cancer Research UK. Don't believe the Hype - 10 persistent cancer myths debunked

Myth 1: Cancer is a man-made, modern disease
Myth 2: Superfoods prevent cancer
Myth 3: ‘Acidic’ diets cause cancer
Myth 4: Cancer has a sweet tooth
Myth 5: Cancer is a fungus – and sodium bicarbonate is the cure
Myth 6: There’s a miracle cancer cure…
Myth 7: …And Big Pharma are suppressing it
Myth 8: Cancer treatment kills more than it cures
Myth 9: We’ve made no progress in fighting cancer
Myth 10: Sharks don’t get cancer

Any of them look familiar?

Without even clicking into the link.... I wonder who sponsored the site?

Cancer Research UK.
As the title says.

Well yes, a fancy title, but come on now, who is the funding source for "Cancer Research UK."

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Testimonial doesn't = proof

And let us not forget that

Testimonial doesn't = nothing either

I am sure there are 100s of examples of testimonials in the medical world about cures that turned out to be true. They don't all come from extensive, exhaustive secret chemical formulas that need super scientific minds to work out. Some are and some stem from dumb luck.

Most scientist in the medical industry copy what is already available in nature, they isolate the active ingredient, synthesize it so they can patent and sell it. All anti-depressant copied from a plant, viagra from a plant, aspirine plant, the list can go on and on. The patent is not applied on the plant itself because that is not how you make money, you need to make a slightly altered copy of it. Nature cannot be patented, at least for now.

If someone wants to follow conventional methods and absolutely need scientific papers than they have that option. If I had cancer I would like to know ALL my options and I would try the simplest, less invasive and easiest first.

Testimonial means nothing without proof. Every testimonial on that site is anonymous with nothing to back it up. Surely if it was real there would have been one person who took the time to compile a comprehensive list of everything done, when it was done, how it was done etc. And it would be repeatable with data and results. But ALL there is is testimonials. No data ANYWHERE to be found. (trust me. Me and my wife have looked everywhere for some data on this and many other alternative medicines).

As for some of those medicines being derived from nature? Well of course. Everything is from nature. There is not a single thing on this planet that wasn't already here in some form or another.

I would like to point out about Viagra though. You do know that Viagra is actually a production of a series of failed tests and side effects? It wasn't originally meant to be what it is now.

Once you again, you are like the rest, bending the truth to fit your agenda. I just posted several posts from a lady who wrote a blog tracking her success with baking soda on her husbands bladder cancer. She was a testimonial on that site. There is also another testimonial who wrote a blog. Donald Porter wrote extensively about his success. I am writing about our success. I wrote a lot, posted a lot, photos of doctor records and all on the other thread. But, that doesn't fit into your agenda, so ignore it.

You really are the most ignorant person I have met on the internet.

MY AGENDA?
Yeah, I have one. To get my wife and daughter well.

You show no proof only testimonials. I can probably google as many testimonials to prove baking soda GIVES you cancer as you can to show it cures it.

PS. How's the book sales?

originally posted by: Rextiberius
a reply to: Rezlooper

Thanks Rezlooper for your kind remarks. Paid shills and trolls are everywhere on the internet these days and the best policy is to simply ignore them and not give them any attention for that will swell their heads... and when you don't, their heads will shrink in the opposite direction. If herbs heal me, you, your father, etc, where is the need to prove it to anyone or providing evidence to satisfy some medical board or scoffers... let's flow with life and rejoice in the bounty of nature, the miracles and grace of Divinity, and all we can do for those people is to repeat the forgiveness prayer of the Christ: "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." They murdered him, didn't they, out of sheer ignorance, anger and fear, hatred, malice, bigotry...

Thanks Rex. This is why I am now ignoring these agenda-driven trolls. After 20 pages of the same mantra, I have said what I need to say... Baking soda and molasses can and does successfully kill cancer.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Testimonial doesn't = proof

And let us not forget that

Testimonial doesn't = nothing either

I am sure there are 100s of examples of testimonials in the medical world about cures that turned out to be true. They don't all come from extensive, exhaustive secret chemical formulas that need super scientific minds to work out. Some are and some stem from dumb luck.

Most scientist in the medical industry copy what is already available in nature, they isolate the active ingredient, synthesize it so they can patent and sell it. All anti-depressant copied from a plant, viagra from a plant, aspirine plant, the list can go on and on. The patent is not applied on the plant itself because that is not how you make money, you need to make a slightly altered copy of it. Nature cannot be patented, at least for now.

If someone wants to follow conventional methods and absolutely need scientific papers than they have that option. If I had cancer I would like to know ALL my options and I would try the simplest, less invasive and easiest first.

Testimonial means nothing without proof. Every testimonial on that site is anonymous with nothing to back it up. Surely if it was real there would have been one person who took the time to compile a comprehensive list of everything done, when it was done, how it was done etc. And it would be repeatable with data and results. But ALL there is is testimonials. No data ANYWHERE to be found. (trust me. Me and my wife have looked everywhere for some data on this and many other alternative medicines).

As for some of those medicines being derived from nature? Well of course. Everything is from nature. There is not a single thing on this planet that wasn't already here in some form or another.

I would like to point out about Viagra though. You do know that Viagra is actually a production of a series of failed tests and side effects? It wasn't originally meant to be what it is now.

Once you again, you are like the rest, bending the truth to fit your agenda. I just posted several posts from a lady who wrote a blog tracking her success with baking soda on her husbands bladder cancer. She was a testimonial on that site. There is also another testimonial who wrote a blog. Donald Porter wrote extensively about his success. I am writing about our success. I wrote a lot, posted a lot, photos of doctor records and all on the other thread. But, that doesn't fit into your agenda, so ignore it.

You really are the most ignorant person I have met on the internet.

MY AGENDA?
Yeah, I have one. To get my wife and daughter well.

You show no proof only testimonials. I can probably google as many testimonials to prove baking soda GIVES you cancer as you can to show it cures it.

PS. How's the book sales?

If your agenda was to truly get your wife and daughter well, you wouldn't still be here arguing about it. I showed you a roadmap, now go do your own research on it. You are obviously here to belittle what you can, especially given your first comments..."so-called natural cures."

And now I am done with you as well.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I just did a very simply google search of "bicarbonate of soda cancer cure rates" and the FIRST link appear?

Cancer Research UK. Don't believe the Hype - 10 persistent cancer myths debunked

Myth 1: Cancer is a man-made, modern disease
Myth 2: Superfoods prevent cancer
Myth 3: ‘Acidic’ diets cause cancer
Myth 4: Cancer has a sweet tooth
Myth 5: Cancer is a fungus – and sodium bicarbonate is the cure
Myth 6: There’s a miracle cancer cure…
Myth 7: …And Big Pharma are suppressing it
Myth 8: Cancer treatment kills more than it cures
Myth 9: We’ve made no progress in fighting cancer
Myth 10: Sharks don’t get cancer

Any of them look familiar?

Without even clicking into the link.... I wonder who sponsored the site?

Cancer Research UK.
As the title says.

Well yes, a fancy title, but come on now, who is the funding source for "Cancer Research UK."

Hmm, lets see here.

They get absolutely no funding from the government. Zero. Not a penny.

The majority of money they get is through donation (regular people, shop sales, company donations etc).

a reply to: TerryDon79

Personally I don't need to see documentation to back up every testimonial. I have alleviated certain health issues on my own, using the experiences of others. I suppose having a base knowledge of how our body and mind work together, along with an understanding of what mother nature can do for us makes it easier for me to home in on a testimonial that will most likely benefit me.

I have good instincts and trust my own intellect.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Testimonial doesn't = proof

And let us not forget that

Testimonial doesn't = nothing either

I am sure there are 100s of examples of testimonials in the medical world about cures that turned out to be true. They don't all come from extensive, exhaustive secret chemical formulas that need super scientific minds to work out. Some are and some stem from dumb luck.

Most scientist in the medical industry copy what is already available in nature, they isolate the active ingredient, synthesize it so they can patent and sell it. All anti-depressant copied from a plant, viagra from a plant, aspirine plant, the list can go on and on. The patent is not applied on the plant itself because that is not how you make money, you need to make a slightly altered copy of it. Nature cannot be patented, at least for now.

If someone wants to follow conventional methods and absolutely need scientific papers than they have that option. If I had cancer I would like to know ALL my options and I would try the simplest, less invasive and easiest first.

Testimonial means nothing without proof. Every testimonial on that site is anonymous with nothing to back it up. Surely if it was real there would have been one person who took the time to compile a comprehensive list of everything done, when it was done, how it was done etc. And it would be repeatable with data and results. But ALL there is is testimonials. No data ANYWHERE to be found. (trust me. Me and my wife have looked everywhere for some data on this and many other alternative medicines).

As for some of those medicines being derived from nature? Well of course. Everything is from nature. There is not a single thing on this planet that wasn't already here in some form or another.

I would like to point out about Viagra though. You do know that Viagra is actually a production of a series of failed tests and side effects? It wasn't originally meant to be what it is now.

Once you again, you are like the rest, bending the truth to fit your agenda. I just posted several posts from a lady who wrote a blog tracking her success with baking soda on her husbands bladder cancer. She was a testimonial on that site. There is also another testimonial who wrote a blog. Donald Porter wrote extensively about his success. I am writing about our success. I wrote a lot, posted a lot, photos of doctor records and all on the other thread. But, that doesn't fit into your agenda, so ignore it.

You really are the most ignorant person I have met on the internet.

MY AGENDA?
Yeah, I have one. To get my wife and daughter well.

You show no proof only testimonials. I can probably google as many testimonials to prove baking soda GIVES you cancer as you can to show it cures it.

PS. How's the book sales?

If your agenda was to truly get your wife and daughter well, you wouldn't still be here arguing about it. I showed you a roadmap, now go do your own research on it. You are obviously here to belittle what you can, especially given your first comments..."so-called natural cures."

And now I am done with you as well.

So now you're going down the road of telling lies? Show me anywhere that I have said "so-called natural cures".

Here is exactly what I said in my first post.

I've been watching this thread for so long it's rediculous.

My wife, her brother, her father, her grandfather (before he died) and now her daughter all have cancer.

You say the success rate of conventional medicine for cancer is 33%?
What's the success rate for alternate medicine? In particular your baking soda/molasses combo?

BTW Death has a 100% success rate.

And it has nothing to do with belittling. I was asking for a success cure rate. A percentage of how many people who had cancer tried the bicarbonate of soda cure and it worked/failed.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Baking soda and molasses can and does successfully kill cancer.

Odd how you can be so certain about that. According to your claims, that's one of many changes made all at the same time, yet it was the baking soda.

So, let me ask you this very simple question.

Does salt, bicarbonate ions or sodium ions kill cancer?

a reply to: Rezlooper

So bicarbonate of soda (or baking soda) kills cancer?
You're 100% sure of that?
Couldn't possibly be anything else to have happened, it was definitely the bicarbonate of soda?

If that is the case, why isn't everyone cancer free? I mean, sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) is made up from salt, bicarbonate ions and sodium ions. You know why everyone should be cured? It's in almost all foods. It's an additive in food (E500).

Don't believe me? CHECK OUT THIS WIKI

Or are they also under some control to stop the truth coming out?

ETA All this information is freely out there. I found it with the most of basic of searches. You did tell me to do my own research

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I just did a very simply google search of "bicarbonate of soda cancer cure rates" and the FIRST link appear?

Cancer Research UK. Don't believe the Hype - 10 persistent cancer myths debunked

Myth 1: Cancer is a man-made, modern disease
Myth 2: Superfoods prevent cancer
Myth 3: ‘Acidic’ diets cause cancer
Myth 4: Cancer has a sweet tooth
Myth 5: Cancer is a fungus – and sodium bicarbonate is the cure
Myth 6: There’s a miracle cancer cure…
Myth 7: …And Big Pharma are suppressing it
Myth 8: Cancer treatment kills more than it cures
Myth 9: We’ve made no progress in fighting cancer
Myth 10: Sharks don’t get cancer

Any of them look familiar?

Without even clicking into the link.... I wonder who sponsored the site?

Cancer Research UK.
As the title says.

Well yes, a fancy title, but come on now, who is the funding source for "Cancer Research UK."

Hmm, lets see here.

They get absolutely no funding from the government. Zero. Not a penny.

The majority of money they get is through donation (regular people, shop sales, company donations etc).

That's my point. I would trust it more if it were from the UK government (not US), but no, it's from private donors and I'm sure they have no vested interest. unreal.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79
I just did a very simply google search of "bicarbonate of soda cancer cure rates" and the FIRST link appear?

Cancer Research UK. Don't believe the Hype - 10 persistent cancer myths debunked

Myth 1: Cancer is a man-made, modern disease
Myth 2: Superfoods prevent cancer
Myth 3: ‘Acidic’ diets cause cancer
Myth 4: Cancer has a sweet tooth
Myth 5: Cancer is a fungus – and sodium bicarbonate is the cure
Myth 6: There’s a miracle cancer cure…
Myth 7: …And Big Pharma are suppressing it
Myth 8: Cancer treatment kills more than it cures
Myth 9: We’ve made no progress in fighting cancer
Myth 10: Sharks don’t get cancer

Any of them look familiar?

Without even clicking into the link.... I wonder who sponsored the site?

Cancer Research UK.
As the title says.

Well yes, a fancy title, but come on now, who is the funding source for "Cancer Research UK."

Hmm, lets see here.

They get absolutely no funding from the government. Zero. Not a penny.

The majority of money they get is through donation (regular people, shop sales, company donations etc).

That's my point. I would trust it more if it were from the UK government (not US), but no, it's from private donors and I'm sure they have no vested interest. unreal.

Funny thing is is the majority of their donations are NOT from private companies. The main source of donations are from the public. The amount varies year to year, but it's normally around the 70% for donations from normal, everyday people.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Sorry to hear about your family members. I lost my dad to lung cancer and my grand father. Its a pretty big problem and we need better solutions. Cheaper ones too.

I don't understand what your asking of Rez? You want him to produce statistics?

Promote the conventional 33% if that is good enough for you. You are free as a bird and so are we.

My wife, her husband and her brother have tried so many of these so called "natural cures" it is unbelievable. No change in their cancers (outside normal progression) whatsoever.

Sorry, it was your second post.

I have read more or less the whole thread and what can I say?
Thanks for sharing the info, it is great to hear such a success story.
And I know there are many more, but some people do not believe them due to all around general dishonesty nowadays. This is seen even here in this thread. Even though the OP has plenty evidence from the past thread, that he is telling the truth.

I believe that we should put more trust in testimonials than the official research papers in some instances, like this... At least I trust "normal" people a lot more nowadays than the government's, pharma and so on....at least when big money is concerned, always follow the money.

There will always be natural remedies available but suppressed from the official story. I cannot really understand how can people be so trustworthy of anything connected with a lot of money. Like governments, pharma, etc...they are not here for us but for the $$$.

When will people get it? they don't want us to get healthy for long...especially not for free ... that is charity not business : )

the past is a best story teller, and if people would do more research about it, they would realize how much suppression has been going on in many areas...since the start of media and probably even before in other forms.
Please check documentaries about Rockefeller and how it started for him and oil. And this is just one example of a very powerful man and what such a person can do to general public with $$$.

imho.

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

well he did post about, how the effects started to appear right after few days of started taking it. So this is a good assumption I would say?

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: TerryDon79

Sorry to hear about your family members. I lost my dad to lung cancer and my grand father. Its a pretty big problem and we need better solutions. Cheaper ones too.

I don't understand what your asking of Rez? You want him to produce statistics?

Promote the conventional 33% if that is good enough for you. You are free as a bird and so are we.

My wife, her husband and her brother have tried so many of these so called "natural cures" it is unbelievable. No change in their cancers (outside normal progression) whatsoever.

Sorry, it was your second post.

Well it's not even a cure (as I found out by myself).
How can a food additive, that's been in food for quite sometime I might add, cure cancer yet, there's still cancer around?