pH kills cancer and an update on my father-in-law who killed his cancer in 3 weeks!

originally posted by: gazzerman
I was just watching this video about an hour ago

Tony Robbins on PH balance

Then saw this thread! interesting coincidence

He also happens to mention Cancer briefly.

tony robbins is a liar...he quoted in that clip that they found that john wayne had 20 pounds impacted in the colon during his autopsy...john wayne died of cancer, he had NO AUTOPSY!!!

history shows that a man in india became impacted eating pomagranites, he refused to let the hospital do an enema and took off..he returned a week later in extreme pain and bleeding from the rectum...had to have surgery...guess how much the impaction weighed..1 pound!!!!....but of course john wayne was carrying 20 pounds and had no idea!!!!!

please do a little reseach before posting

A very good post from ATS member Rigel Kent:

The medical industry is now run by the pharmacutical industry, has been for decades and theyve got the FDA in their pocket, right where they want them. For every disease on this planet, nature provides a cure, our ancestors knew it, but Big Pharma dont want to know cos they cannot patent nature, no patent, no proffit.

He is spot on to vilify the medical industry, how can they continue to promote the 3 treatments (chemo, radio and surgery) when they barely get a 33% success rate with those treatments? Oh wait, a combined course of treatment costs upwards of 100K then you have the anti cancer drugs to follow up which run into 1000's per month.

Doctors go through medical school and are taught a syllabus which is basically approved by Big Pharma, they have Execs sitting on the board of medical institutes to promote THEIR interests, they ensure that the doctors know more about synthetic drugs than they do about disease itsself.

Cancer can be cured by various different methods, there are several doctors who have proved this since the 40's but they have been hounded by the pharmacutical industry and even imprisoned by the courts before being struck off the MP's register altogether and labeled as "quacks."

google: Simoncini, Hermann, Hoxley (cured 50,000 patients) and Rene Caisse, she used herbal mixture for
treatment - she also cured thousands but her patient list was never published in the USA, only
Europe. If you didnt know better you would think it was a gag order.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Does your father-in-law remain dedicated to his strict diet?

I don't recall from your original thread if FIL had any other infections or health issues before his diagnosis.

From what I have been reading I gather that the baking soda simply acted as a buffer to the abundance of acid. Most of our immunity is found in our gut. It is our first line of defense. What better place to influence PH levels.

And another point to remember in using an alternative therapy to fight cancer. One needs to go totally organic to help. I've seen where some will say they did an alternative therapy and it didn't work, but if you continue to pump your body full of toxins, then you don't give it much of a chance to do its job.

Another post:

CANCER CURE QUOTES, by leading Doctors, Nobel Prize Winners and Researchers...

"...The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn’t. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day..."

— Dr Ley former Commissioner of the FDA.



"...Although he says he can't divulge the name of his patients; "President Reagan is a very nice man and,You wouldn’t believe how many FDA officials or relatives or acquaintances of FDA officials come to see me as patients in Hanover. You wouldn’t believe this, or directors of the AMA, or ACA, or the presidents of orthodox cancer institutes. That’s the fact. Odd that it's good enough for, and sought after by the bigshots with enough money, but not allowed for the common people... "

--- Hans Nieper M.D. (1928-1998) (Dr. Nieper used a cesium chloride protocol in Hanover, Germany)



"...As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to have a naturopathic physician available. Almost all drugs are toxic and are designed only to treat symptoms and not to cure anyone. Vaccines are highly dangerous, have never been adequately studied or proven to be effective, and have a poor risk/reward ratio. Most surgery is unnecessary and most textbooks of medicine are inaccurate and deceptive. Almost every disease is said to be idiopathic (without known cause) or genetic - although this is untrue. In short, our main stream medical system is hopelessly inept and/or corrupt. The treatment of cancer and degenerative diseases is a national scandal. The sooner you learn this, the better off you will be..." ---- Dr. Allan Greenberg 12/24/2002



"...There is not one, but many cures for cancer available. But they are all being systematically suppressed by the ACS, the NCI and the major oncology centres. They have too much of an interest in the status quo..." -- Dr Robert Atkins, M.D.



"...We are not dealing with a scientific problem. We are dealing with a political issue..." --Samuel Epstein, M.D.


"..."As a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incomprehensible to me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy does much, much more harm than good..." --- Alan Nixon, Ph.D., Past President, American Chemical Society.



"...We went through the records and we found over five hundred of his patients who were alive and well five years after their treatment, with no cancer. And Dr. Burton didn't selectively give us these. These were "take what you want. Here are the patients I treated." So there was statistical improvement -- more so than any cancer institution in the United States could show..." — Gary Null Phd.



"...Finding a cure for cancer is absolutely contraindicated by the profits of the cancer industry’s chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery cash trough..." — Dr Diamond, M.D.


"...We have a multi-billion dollar industry that is killing people, right and left, just for financial gain. Their idea of research is to see whether two doses of this poison is better than three doses of that poison..." — Glen Warner, M.D. oncologist.



"... For the past 25 years, most of the laboratory research into metastatic breast cancer has been based on a single breast tumor cell line known as MDA-MB-435. At least 650 papers have been published on studies involving this cell line. Yet it has been revealed that this supposed breast cancer cell line may in fact not be composed of breast cancer cells at all. Instead, it appears that the cells are derived from melanoma. For 25 years, therefore, breast cancer research using this cell line - and it is one of the most widely used - has been based on an incorrect model. Melanoma-derived tumor cells are not biologically equivalent to breast cancer cells; they have different molecular and genetic characteristics..." - Ralph Moss Ph.D



"...If the patient has not undergone any conventional treatment (especially chemotherapy or radiotherapy), GNM has a success rate of 95 to 98 percent. Ironically these statistics for Dr. Hamer’s remarkable success rate were delivered by the authorities themselves. When Dr. Hamer was arrested in 1997 for having given three people medical advice without a medical license, the police confiscated his patients’ files and had them analyzed. Subsequently, one public prosecutor was forced to admit during the trial that, after five years, 6,000 out of 6,500 patients with mostly “terminal” cancer were still alive. With conventional treatment the figures are generally just the reverse..." -- Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Rezlooper

Does your father-in-law remain dedicated to his strict diet?

I don't recall from your original thread if FIL had any other infections or health issues before his diagnosis.

From what I have been reading I gather that the baking soda simply acted as a buffer to the abundance of acid. Most of our immunity is found in our gut. It is our first line of defense. What better place to influence PH levels.

G was a healthy man prior to his cancer diagnosis. Very active lifestyle for a 70-year old. He started eating burgers and things like that again, but has remained a fruit and vegetable health nut. He hasn't done the protocol again but is considering it because he has arthritic pain in his back and is on dialysis for his kidneys. I showed him the study I posted earlier about the kidney improvements after the baking soda treatment that was discovered in the UK.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Rezlooper



Organic food. No meat. No sugar. High ph environment. Vitamins/minerals. EFAs. Wheat/barley grass.

This isn't a dig at you. But I have watched two people do the things you list here and both of them died a few mths after being diagnosed. What I always think to myself is this; If doing these things, organic food, no sugar, high ph, etc cure cancer, Than why doesn't doing these things before you get cancer prevent the cancer? One of my friends that died was a 40 year old massage therapist who was into all this kind of stuff. Organic everything, no dairy, she wouldn't even put sugar in her tea.... From what I read excess weight, alcohol consumption and smoking are the main causes of cancer for US citizens. So even if you ate all organic you can still be overweight and have a higher risk of cancer.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Rezlooper

Does your father-in-law remain dedicated to his strict diet?

I don't recall from your original thread if FIL had any other infections or health issues before his diagnosis.

From what I have been reading I gather that the baking soda simply acted as a buffer to the abundance of acid. Most of our immunity is found in our gut. It is our first line of defense. What better place to influence PH levels.

G was a healthy man prior to his cancer diagnosis. Very active lifestyle for a 70-year old. He started eating burgers and things like that again, but has remained a fruit and vegetable health nut. He hasn't done the protocol again but is considering it because he has arthritic pain in his back and is on dialysis for his kidneys. I showed him the study I posted earlier about the kidney improvements after the baking soda treatment that was discovered in the UK.

Any average Joe can write anything about anything on the internet and make themselves look as though they know about stuff (as you've done).
Words, without proof and evidence are just that, words.
And boy are you wordy.

The other thing is that people like you offer no recourse and have no responsibility for your actions.
There's always a "take at your own risk" mantra.

You asked me earlier why I care about what people do.
Well it's obvious you don't.
Anything for a quick buck eh Joe?

So what if people eschew standard and tested medicine for your magic protocol and it doesn't work.
What do you offer them then?
That's a rhetorical question as the answer is nothing isn't it Joe?

By the amount of padded nonsense you've added since I last posted it seems like you've been scrabbling round Google trying to find supporting evidence for your wild claims.
Unfortunately you've failed. Again.

Words Mr average Joe, are just words.

originally posted by: Witness2008
Perhaps the attitudes of those who practice corporate medicine are the reason we see a growing distrust in it.

Perhpas ignorance makes people come out with 'cures' that make no sense in real life because they don't understand biology.

originally posted by: purplemer
Just because you consider yourself a health care profession gives you no more authority than anyone else.

Yes it does because we have spent our adult life constantly studying and training to help others. I would never tell a pilot how to fly a plane, because that's not my expertise!

originally posted by: bitsforbytes

Some on this thread focused on blood when i would look into the lymphatic system first. Just as important as blood in the contribution of building and maintaining healty tissu and cells.

Geez, again: we have already explained how ingesting bicarbonate does not change the PH of extracellular fluid. You probably don't know but extracellular fluid is what enters the lymphatic system and once there it's called lymph.

a reply to: Agartha

originally posted by: purplemer
Just because you consider yourself a health care profession gives you no more authority than anyone else.

Yes it does because we have spent our adult life constantly studying and training to help others. I would never tell a pilot how to fly a plane, because that's not my expertise!

I'm sorry Agartha, I have deep respect for you and your profession but it seem you are stepping out of your shoes this time.

If you look inside your code of ethics (I hope it is not radically different from here) you will see that you are under obligation to get 'Informed consent' from any patient.

To give informed consent, the individual concerned must have adequate reasoning faculties and be in possession of all relevant facts. Impairments to reasoning and judgment that may prevent informed consent include basic intellectual or emotional immaturity, high levels of stress such as PTSD or a severe intellectual disability, severe mental illness, intoxication, severe sleep deprivation, Alzheimer's disease, or being in a coma.

Unless the patient is not affected in any way enumerated above or in priority in your code of ethics of your professionnal order, YOU MUST RESPECT THE CHOICE OF YOUR PATIENT. YOU ARE NOT ABOVE HIM OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT THIS MATTER. ALL YOUR LIFE LONG FORMATION AND TRAINING IS TO SERVE THE PATIENT AND HELP HIM MAKE AN INFORMED CONSENT, NOT TO GIVE YOU AUTHORITY OVER HIM.

I and my spouse have had enough of nurses and doctors that tries to bully patients and silence them to make their shift more relax, it never worked and when confronted with the fact that we knew their code of ethics and how to enforce it, they simply backoff and resumed to their PAY GRADE.

I hope you will not find my post offensive to you or consider it an attack, but sometime, the perspective of the patients must be told LOUD.

a reply to: Agartha

If I had taken the advice of the medical community like you suggest, since of course you know so much more about what health is, my son would have committed suicide out of desperation because those "trained individuals" couldn't see past all that wonderful training. The prescriptions of eight doctors vs the humble research of a mother and niacin. You think too highly of your profession.

Yes it does because we have spent our adult life constantly studying and training to help others. I would never tell a pilot how to fly a plane, because that's not my expertise!

You could study for many lifetimes and still not know it all, your attitude is disturbing for someone who is a medical professional

a reply to: Rezlooper

I'm glad for you, but this is nothing more than anecdotal evidence...not science.

Other people are dealing with real grief and threads like this do not help in the least.

Nice!
Congrats lets hope your loved one stays cancer free!

originally posted by: Leonidas
a reply to: Rezlooper

I'm glad for you, but this is nothing more than anecdotal evidence...not science.

Other people are dealing with real grief and threads like this do not help in the least.

Exactly... anecdotal evidence and not science, thank God.

Those people with real grief are the ones I aim to reach and I can only hope they can get away from people like you who cast a death sentence on them with your negativity and your arrogance.

a reply to: PeterMcFly

Oh no, don't worry, when people disagree with me I never take it as a personal attack.

Now, you have misunderstood (or I was in a rush and didn't explain properly): of course informed consent is essential and I never ever do anything if the patients have not been informed or have consented to the treatment or procedure.

My response was regarding knowledge: if I have cancer I would trust oncologists or specialist nurses but never a guy who has read something on a website. Why? because the health professionals would have the academic and practical background to understand what is going on and to explain why. The OP has not yet explained how ingesting bicarbonate changes the PH of extracellular fluid, a health professional could explain the impossibility immediately, because they have the knowledge acquired through many years of university and work.

Hence why I replied the way I did. It was not about authority in the sense of forcing somebody to have a treatment they don't want, it was about promotion because this thread is about promoting something fake and dangerous.

originally posted by: Witness2008
You think too highly of your profession.

I think highly of every profession and I trust those who have been studying or training to do their jobs the best they can, whether we are talking about nurses, plumbers or pilots.

I sincerely abhor quacks, people who don't understand what they are promoting and thus endanger other people's lives.

And I am sorry you don't trust health professionals: what would you do if you have an emergency? Would you follow a paramedic/nurse or doctor's advice?

originally posted by: GetHyped

Boy, is the anti intellectualism out in full force today.

Sad, eh?

There is a disturbing 'dumbing down' trend in the West, with people rejecting science without even trying to understand it. Quacks are glorified and doctors saving lives are criticized. Anti intellectualism is motivated by fear, because we fear what we don't know. But I won't say more as it will be going off topic.

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Agartha

If I had taken the advice of the medical community like you suggest, since of course you know so much more about what health is, my son would have committed suicide out of desperation because those "trained individuals" couldn't see past all that wonderful training. The prescriptions of eight doctors vs the humble research of a mother and niacin. You think too highly of your profession.

And of course we are happy that your son is well or as well as can be

But we also have millions who have been helped come back from suicidality by those same trained individuals. So what's the point? As I've stated many times, we do overdiagnose and prescribe but there are boat loads of people who have been in dire situations where a medication changed their life for the positive and saved lives.

And I am not saying you are doing this next part...

But people run around with no understanding of psychology and see someone with profound bipolar disorder and tell them, "stop taking your Depakote, use 5HTP and take a walk" as if that is going to solve everything. People with hefty disorders such as bipolar and schizophrenia already have a difficult time sticking to the regimen that balances them out. So when a person (again not saying you did this) promises some miracle, it can and does get followed with disastrous effects.

So yes, again, some of us realize that it is highly unethical. And while I am ecstatic that your son is better, that is again a testimonial and an anecdote and not science

It's emotion driven...understandably so because who in this world is closer to a son than a parent...but still emotionally driven.

a reply to: Pardon?

Good point. Me convinced too. Thanks Rezlooper for the post - testimonials are always great to read because there is always this human expression of heartfelt gratitude for the miracle that they have PERSONALLY experienced - coming into contact with that numinous power that quietly governs the world, yet hidden behind that veil that science can claw at but never quite see,r touch, reach or reveal. Yes, that ray of hope may be a small ray, but for those who lives have been touched by it... well, they might say that words will fail or could hardly express it !!

And the brown rice imported from *** into my country - the grain do not sprout at all. Why? The storekeeper told us that that's because all the products get IRRADIATED before leaving that country! Anyway, many pharmaceuticals are/were/have been originally synthesized from NATURAL products including the blessed penicillin!!

Rezlooper should have pointed to the doctor of oncology, Dr Tullio Simoncini, for good medical evidence (and he has got plenty) to defend himself. But this goodhearted soul was never given the chance to present the great scientific evidence he has compiled because the medical profession refuses to entertain that. Whether this is due to professional/scientific pride, jealousy, herd mentality, vested interest... take your pick! They even as far as assassinating his good name and shamefully removing his medical license. You can google him up on Youtube and watch some video clips. I remember seeing Dr Mark Sircus interviewing him in one of the videos posted there.

Website: www.curenaturalicancro.com...
Facebook: www.facebook.com...
Youtube videos: www.youtube.com...

Dr Simoncini confessed that he was moved by many poor people in his home country, Italy and their inability to pay for the costly conventional cancer treatments. That, he said, made him prayed very hard for divine intervention. And the answer came - it turned out to be just the humble baking soda - a treatment as cheap as a few cents, he quipped. Here's an answer to one man's cry from the heart and why are people deriding, scoffing and casting stones at it? Did the Pharisees, the so-called egg headed experts, ask Jesus or the ones he healed for medical evidence to prove that they were healed of their infirmities? Tullio has saved many cancer patients, but he admitted that not all of them responded 100% because baking soda is not a panacea. One size doesn't fit all. But it does work in varying degrees of success - generally.

Can baking soda affect blood pH? Obviously it can. Ask any hospital what they do when a diabetic gets lactic acidosis, a life-threatening disease that occurs when the blood pH level goes critically low? One emergency procedure is to immediately transfuse baking soda into the body via the drip method, instead of ingesting it, to sidestep the gastrointestinal tract, for greater efficacy. It works by getting the casualty into the safe pH range - fast and effectively. The opposite is true when there is alkalosis, in which case the hospital staff will carry out the opposite procedure. The important point to realize is this: If the body could naturally and intelligently adjust itself to the safe pH range as some naive people would have us believe, would there then be any need, in the first place, for seeking medical attention and administering baking soda (for acidosis), or potassium or ammonium chloride (for alkalosis)?

Before the medical profession came into being, what were our ancestors using? We may politely call it folk medicine but my parents did very well on that and live their lives quite satisfactorily without the help of modern medicine (including the cellphone), and my mother would boast about handling childbirth herself without a nurse. There practices are PRE-scientific and should not to be flippantly dismissed and labeled unscientific. What happens to those who scoff and mock the loudest and then found that they themselves are down with terminal illness and given just days and weeks to live? They would also quietly seek out those forbidden avenues and medicines that they themselves have previously condemned or belittled as nonsense, hogwash, superstition, old-wives tales, the list goes on and on. Fear of death can easily induce anyone to take that forbidden, dark or unconventional track - whether scientifically-approved or not.

Published research and peer-reviewed papers and articles are not to be construed as the indisputable gold standard. They are to be regarded more as points of departure for further investigation, research and debate. In any case, one will find sooner or later find conflicting results and conclusions, if one cares to do more extensive research. The so-called scientists may not even agree among themselves. And who says they have to? Brilliant people may proudly say that similar minds think alike, but then fools behave likewise too. For birds of the same feather... !!