BREAKING: Justice Scalia attended gathering of Elite Secret Society just before his death.

originally posted by: Voyager1
This story has gotten so ridiculous now!
I think he's probably retired on an island somewhere and will live out the rest of his days there out of site and out of the public's mind while others have a field d day with all these BS conspiracy theories going around.
Or he simply up and died plain and simple. People just up and die now and then you know. Geez!

I tend to follow this cat's theory. Paid well, and drinking Mai-Tai's on an island for political misfits.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Wow, many thanks indeed!

That means a lot coming from you and to be numbered among those you mention only adds to the gravitas of the compliment.

I'd like to add dianajune, texasgirl, IAMTAT, and queenofswords to your list of those deserving of accolades as well.

I was just going through that thread to find who the first person to post regarding Poindexter being in the Order of St. Hubertus, and it just so happens to have been me in this post, which strangely enough was quoting the Washington Post. They had what they needed all along, but did nothing with it nor asked any of the questions we did; we just took it and ran with it in typical ATS style.

Lol, as of this moment that post has no stars and it's the one that set us off on the rabbit trail of secret societies and thence to the article referenced in your OP.

Indigo5's work tracking down the information through flight logs and tax records was superb; though I have to pat myself on the shoulder (which I don't normally do) for suggesting looking through flight logs in this post.

We rock!

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

You've got stars.

And I must say in all my years here this will go down in history
as one of the most intriguing collaborative finds of ATS, thanks you guys.

While WaPo may have had that info, knowing that if
I see trusted members posting it, its a sure thing.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I wish I had noticed your post, jaded. It would have saved me some time when I wondered what the heck was on Poindexter's necktie 20 pages later.

GOOD ON YOU! I've starred it now.

Side note:
Xuenchen really lent a voice, too. And I really dig Xuenchen's antennae.

a reply to: burntheships

Lol, thank you. Was not asking for them by any means.

This is the kind of thing that drew me to ATS in the first place and has kept me coming back for these years.

Just like in the original Fukushima mega-thread, we here at ATS lead the pace for others to follow. You remember discussions we had in that thread which would then be mirrored in news articles days to weeks later, I'm sure.

Same thing with this.

Very nice work from everyone who did research......

I forgot that Scalia didn't attend the Pope's speech. I can't understand why he wouldn't considering he was such a devout Catholic.

Catholics are just supposed to accept the Pope........

Canon Laws:

Can. 1374 A person who joins an association which plots against the Church is to be punished with a just penalty; however, a person who promotes or directs an association of this kind is to be punished with an interdict.

Can. 1369 A person who in a public show or speech, in published writing, or in other uses of the instruments of social communication utters blasphemy, gravely injures good morals, expresses insults, or excites hatred or contempt against religion or the Church is to be punished with a just penalty

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I just read through the whole thing and it seems a waste of time. There are maybe 2 statements that are just rehashings of public announcements, and the rest are emails asking for records and so forth. Page 3 and 5 have the only doctor's notes and they just list ailments, they do not actually have medical records.

But it is interesting that the press who emailed assumed things would be redacted...

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Esoterotica
Obvious ritual sacrifice is obvious.

What's the significance in the date he died if there is any?

The ides of February. February 13 – 15 the dates the pre Romans celebrated Lupercalia now known as Valentine's Day. That coupled with the said abuse.

As an example of references to the day,

William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar Play

"Horace's Ode III, 18 describes Lupercalia"

CAESAR

Forget not, in your speed, Antonius,
To touch Calpurnia; for our elders say,
The barren touched in this holy chase,
Shake off their sterile curse.

Source - Wiki

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Sublimecraft

Wow, many thanks indeed!

That means a lot coming from you and to be numbered among those you mention only adds to the gravitas of the compliment.

I'd like to add dianajune, texasgirl, IAMTAT, and queenofswords to your list of those deserving of accolades as well.

I was just going through that thread to find who the first person to post regarding Poindexter being in the Order of St. Hubertus, and it just so happens to have been me in this post, which strangely enough was quoting the Washington Post. They had what they needed all along, but did nothing with it nor asked any of the questions we did; we just took it and ran with it in typical ATS style.

Lol, as of this moment that post has no stars and it's the one that set us off on the rabbit trail of secret societies and thence to the article referenced in your OP.

Indigo5's work tracking down the information through flight logs and tax records was superb; though I have to pat myself on the shoulder (which I don't normally do) for suggesting looking through flight logs in this post.

We rock!

Awwww....Thanks! I do want to thank Skeptic Overlord for taking the article I found about finding a pillow over Scalia's head and making a thread on it. It really took off from there!!

If you and Indigo5 hadn't found links to the Order of St Hubertus, I never would've found the connection to Bohemian Grove. I have a weak, hazy knowledge of secret societies but this has encouraged me to learn more

a reply to: Indigo5

You forgot to mention HOW you made the connection between Poindexter and the secret society: His NECKTIE. (It has a symbol of a deer with a star above it!)

Who has the picture of Scalia's cut throat? Did I miss it somewhere?

a reply to: SargonThrall

I realized it would just be the letter from the doctor, not medical records. It had been referenced in a few articles, one of which I referred to when I requested the letter.

I didn't expect anyone else's communication to be attached though.

I guess, in my mind, this letter is exactly what I asked for and expected.

originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: Indigo5

You forgot to mention HOW you made the connection between Poindexter and the secret society: His NECKTIE. (It has a symbol of a deer with a star above it!)

Oh absolutely...I didn't even think about it...

Actually I came at it from a semi-objective skeptical place...

Someone mentioned St. Hubertus, I thought maybe, but no big deal if accurate just for Poindexter...

Then someone suggested checking the airport records...and I thought hell, El Paso International Airport would be near useless with the volume of commercial flights etc. near impossible to derive useful info...and anyways...the ranch has a private airstrip...then I thought...hmmm...I wonder if FAA requires tracking or logs for private airstrips...and sure enough, I found tracking records for the Ranch's airstrip...found private planes arriving that Friday and departing Sunday...a couple registered to generic LLCs (aka rent a private plane) which would give no useful identification ...but a few of those planes were owned by individuals (Wallace Geoge, JC Allen etc) when I checked the tail numbers and registration...I googled their names and figured out who they were...then...just in case you guys on the thread ...by some strange, remote chance were actually on to something...I started to search their names in combination with St. Hubertus...and one by one they all ended up showing up as members of the order...definitely one of those goose bump moments.

I just did research...you guys pointed the way.

Also...For those who want a little insight into Scalia's views around religion and the law, this is a fascinating read...

The talk he gave to a meeting of the Order of St. Malta..

orderofmaltaamerican.org...

Other research not yet done...Scalia's financial disclosure forms. (note, these are voluntary in the Justices opinion, so while they fill them out, there is a separation of powers thing at play...meaning they do it by choice, not legal obligation...and if they failed to be honest, their is no mechanism for consequence)

2014...Scalia lists reimbursements for travel etc.
pdfserver.amlaw.com...

2012
pfds.opensecrets.org...

For example 2007 shows reimbursed expenses from the Order of Malta
pfds.opensecrets.org...

There is this also..

reimbursement from Edmund Enders Island...Society of St. Edmund?
pfds.opensecrets.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

all his financial disclosures here..I haven't gone through them all
www.opensecrets.org...

originally posted by: Indigo5
Also...For those who want a little insight into Scalia's views around religion and the law, this is a fascinating read...

The talk he gave to a meeting of the Order of St. Malta..

orderofmaltaamerican.org...

Other research not yet done...Scalia's financial disclosure forms. (note, these are voluntary in the Justices opinion, so while they fill them out, there is a separation of powers thing at play...meaning they do it by choice, not legal obligation...and if they failed to be honest, their is no mechanism for consequence)

2014...Scalia lists reimbursements for travel etc.
pdfserver.amlaw.com...

2012
pfds.opensecrets.org...

For example 2007 shows reimbursed expenses from the Order of Malta
pfds.opensecrets.org...

There is this also..

reimbursement from Edmund Enders Island...Society of St. Edmund?
pfds.opensecrets.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

all his financial disclosures here..I haven't gone through them all
www.opensecrets.org...

You should share this in the other thread. We're trying to figure out some things, such as why he would go to the ranch if he didn't participate in the hunt. That maybe he was selected to speak for Order of St Hubertus...

Just tell them I lassoed you and dragged you over

a reply to: texasgirl

Please feel free to repost there...I am off for a roadtrip with the family and work is crazy busy...I can only contribute here and there, but very interested in what further things can be found.

Interesting information about this secret society.

I always felt something was off with Justice Scalia. Certain cases I've seen over the years, that I knew he was corrupt over. But here is even more proof of corruption going on in the Highest Court of the land:

When Justice Scalia died two weeks ago, he was staying, again for free, at a West Texas hunting lodge owned by a businessman whose company had recently had a matter before the Supreme Court.
Scalia Took Dozens of Trips Funded by Private Sponsors

And according to this post www.abovetopsecret.com..., the ranch owner Pointdexter is the obviously a prominent member in this secret society.

From the same New York Times article:

Mr. Poindexter is the owner of J. B. Poindexter & Co., a manufacturing firm based in Houston with more than 4,000 employees. One of his companies, the Mic Group, was a defendant in an age discrimination lawsuit filed by a former employee who unsuccessfully petitioned the Supreme Court for a review last year.

Mr. Poindexter, according to a former general manager at the ranch, is also a leader in a group known as the International Order of St. Hubertus, a worldwide organization of hunters, as, apparently, were several other guests during Justice Scalia’s visit. The Washington Post first reported the guests’ ties to the hunting group.

Mr. Gillers and other legal experts said they saw nothing wrong with Mr. Scalia’s accepting a free room at Mr. Poindexter’s lodge. While the Ethics in Government Act, adopted after Watergate, requires high-level federal employees, including judges, to fill out disclosure reports for reimbursements worth more than $335, the visit to the ranch might not have required a formal disclosure, because accommodations provided by a private individual are exempt under current rules.

a reply to: JackReyes

Well one thing for sure....

He won't be disclosing anything on required forms anymore.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Can anyone confirm this?