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Sandy Hook Families and Gun Maker Battle Over Newtown Massacre Lawsuit

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:26 PM
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I felt the need to post this thread about S.H. there are literally hundreds of threads about S.H. This particular thread is dedicated towards the families that were directly affected, and the lawsuit(s) they filed.

We all know/knew that a class action law suit would follow; well, here it is. The question at hand is - > will the we go to trial.... And IF ... IF we go to trial, will the chosen few side with the families, as in wrongful death....???? OR will they side with the manufacturers of the 'weapon (s)' utilized in this controversial shooting spree????

Should we sue a car manufacturer in a a mass casualty accident? An axe manufacturer in a mass axing? An airplane manufacturer for a mass casualty event due to a malfunction or pilot error?

Come one, come all ATS, let's figure this out before the MSM can refill their big gulp cups! !


The families of nine children and adults killed at the Newtown school and a teacher who survived the attack say the AR-15 is a highly lethal military weapon that should not be sold to the public. They're suing Freedom Group, the Madison, North Carolina, parent company of Bushmaster Firearms, which made the AR-15 used in the school shooting.

Lawyers for Freedom Group said the company is protected by a 2005 federal law that shields gun manufacturers from most lawsuits over criminal use of their products. They said Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act after determining such lawsuits were an abuse of the legal system.

"It is unconscionable for plaintiffs to assert that a company who manufactures a legal product would do so with any fore-thought that it was somehow acceptable to commit murder with their products," Scott Wilson, president of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League, told Hartford-area station WFSB-TV.


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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: ReadLeader
Depends. Emotionally the response is the corporations should pay. Logically it is not the corporation's fault.

However with automobiles it could be different if it is caused by production failure. As with other vehicles.

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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The way I see it ...

They're now fair game for any amount of ridicule I desire to heap upon them.

They've already been financially compensated. People need to learn when "enough's enough".



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: ReadLeader

Should be dismissed and they should be sanctioned for bringing a frivolous lawsuit.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:39 PM
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I believe it will be thrown out. The judge said she will rule within two months as to whether it goes forward or is dismissed.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:49 PM
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Hopefully the case is rightfully thrown out, there have already been laws created to prevent this kind of nonsense. The guns didn’t malfunction and companies have absolutely zero control over the sales actions of retailers who sell their guns and even less to do with how the end user utilizes them. This is likely a coached effort by the various groups on the confiscation side of things trying to drum up support for emotions as grounds for legal proceedings.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

This does come across as vulture-ish,imo.If every gun+ammo producer can be sued whenever there are innocents killed by some psycho,where does it end? and how is Any amount of money going to bring back their dead??


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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: ReadLeader

Based on this logic, the Iron Ore mining company that pulled the dirt from the ground, plus the rail company that transported the iron ore to the smelting factory as well as the steel manufacturers that supplied the steel to make the weapon should also be sued.

All the employees from the mine, rail company and steel manufacturer should also be sued.

The car company that manufactured the car that transported the shooter to the scene of the crime should also be sued as well as the petroleum company that sold the shooter gas to put in his car so he could get to the scene of the crime.

Not to mention the ammunition manufacturer.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:20 PM
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If it had been a chainsaw , would they have went after the manufacturer in that case ?

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:32 PM
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This is a waist of time unless they can show the death was caused by a defect in the firearm. Or prove somehow that the manufacturer was involved in the crime. The law is simple on this the familys are waisting their money. There is no misinterpreting the law and it protects the manufacturer. It was put in place when people got the idea that suing manufacturers out of business would be an effective way to stop gun sales.Obviously that's contrary to the second amendment and also violates corprate law where a manufacturer cannot be held accountable for misuse of their product. Imagine the slippery slope that would start rope manufacturers sued because someone committed suicide. Baseball bat manufacturer because it was used in a homicide .


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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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I hope it goes to trial.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:48 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

I blame the failing education system.


What were those children doing in such a useless building?

Living, one should say. Poor fellas...

I swear, if anyone involved show any signs of scripted behavior, I will never believe anything our elected officials do or say ever again in my life. Call me crazy, call me a jerk, but in the end there's just too many holes in the wormwood. Not to mention I got all my information from the government and MSM. One more time Obama, I love to watch you squirm!

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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

exactly. let's see the rifle used, were there after market parts on it? I've customized many rifles I've owned, does that mean if I upgrade the trigger group to a Timney drop in with lighter pull weight that they get included in the suit? Maybe they should go after whoever made the picatiny rails. What company made the magazines used? And on and on and on... Where does the line get drawn over who they try to file a suit against?



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 01:04 AM
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the AR-15 is a highly lethal military weapon that should not be sold to the public.


Can anyone tell me what military force utilizes an AR15 as it's primary issued service rifle? None that I know of. Cosmetic features similar to the M16/M4 platform are what makes it scary to a segment of the population, and the lack of select fire capability makes it no different than any other magazine fed center-fire rifles.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 01:38 AM
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The legal standard is "foresee ability", which leaves room for argument.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 01:38 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

If someone OD's on prescription opiates shall we go after the manufacturer, right on down to the poppy growers? Not to even mention the method of transportation that brought poppy extract to our shores. Ships/airplanes? I feel for these families but what, exactly, are they after? Money? Solace? More education of the masses on the "evils" of gun ownership and those who use guns to perpetrate horrible acts on others and how to recognize them? That's been made abundantly clear to just about everyone on this planet by now! If you look at it that way you'll have an endless myriad of bits and pieces coming together for a singular, end result and a hellatious law suit. So...sue EVERYONE into oblivion?? The guy was insane, he murdered children and that news isn't going to get any clearer, nor mean anything more now then it did when it happened and met the law the first time. There are just some dead horses that can't be beaten any deader. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll be the first one to admit it. I certainly don't want to come off as being callous and uncaring, because I'm definitely not. But agendas are not in short supply these days, and this one could go on till next century or longer because I believe the majority of Americans are not about to curtail or give up their guns...and they shouldn't worry about it or be asked to.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 01:47 AM
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They misused their children even in death

Sacrifice to their idols

The families of newtown sold their souls and names something wasn't right thrre



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: ReadLeader


there is no case against firearms manufacturers in the SH case because :

all firearms in this case worked exactly as they were designed to [ ie pull trigger - and a bullet exits the muzzle at supersonic velocity ]


case closed



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 03:11 AM
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Boi do we have a problem america. Kids lives matter (we thought).



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 03:22 AM
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IT HAS BLACK PLASTIC ON IT!
IT MUST BE EXTRA-SUPER-DUPER DEADLY!
Seems odd to me nobody is suing Newtown, the school system, the Newtown or CSP especially since the Hartford group report came out saying most of those hit died from simply bleeding out. When the Police actively prevent EMTs from entering the scene and treating victims as soon as possible only to come back later and say "anyone left in the school is dead" I'd say they are the ones to sue first.




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