Uber forced to drive defensively, again, after mass shooting

I cant help but shake the thought that these psycho's who carry out shootings in the last...5-6yrs... are just mind control projects..

I dont pretend to know how, but it just seems so probable to me.

a reply to: eluryh22

Different circumstances. The Uber driver is licensed and insured, is your pop up restaurant?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It's not a restaurant. I'm just a guy making food for my friends (some of which I just met via the interwebz). I have homeowners insurance already.

a reply to: eluryh22

Dining establishments are regulated under the Board of Health, driver's licenses and insurance are not.

Additionally, there are local zoning laws.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

What about cities that have a Taxi and Limousine Commission?

Edit to add: I still maintain that, using your example of a friend giving a friend a ride.... it's not a restaurant. I'm just having a cook-out for friends.... on a daily basis.... that they pay me for.

originally posted by: eluryh22
What about cities that have a Taxi and Limousine Commission?

The Uber drivers are still required to have insurance, a background check and a license. They just do not have to buy the obscenely-priced medallions which are a money making scam.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yes, and in my hypothetical all I need to have a bbq party with friends is homeowners insurance.

We're kinda going in circles here...

If the question is, should anyone with a car, insurance and drivers license be able to drive people for money without paying for a medallion for the sake of paying a medallion.... you'll get no argument from me in the sense that I feel that is how it SHOULD be. However, as it stands now to be a taxi driver you have to do these things and I'm still unclear how Uber drivers get around that.

I absolutely agree that there is WAY too much regulation on businesses. That being said, and as much as I root for and frequent the Little Guy whenever possible, I think that there still has to be one set of rules for everyone.

originally posted by: eluryh22
Yes, and in my hypothetical all I need to have a bbq party with friends is homeowners insurance.

If you are charging admission you would theoretically be violating your towns zoning ordinances.

If the question is, should anyone with a car, insurance and drivers license be able to drive people for money without paying for a medallion for the sake of paying a medallion....

Yes. End of story. All else is superfluous money-grabbing.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

All else is superfluous money-grabbing

Agreed. BUT... nobody has given any explanation as to how Uber-taxi-drivers don't have to follow the same laws/rules/regulations as sanctioned taxi-drivers. Rules is rules. Should the rules be changed...? You betcha! But there are still there.

a reply to: eluryh22

Because they are not a licensed livery cab, therefore, no medallion. All other regulations apply; valid license, insurance, back ground check.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

So they get to operate without a license. Thus thwarting the rules on the books.

My question still stands. How/why is it that this particular business gets to run-around the rules when others can not?

a reply to: eluryh22

They have a license, they do not have a medallion which allows you to operate a livery cab.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Right. They are operating a livery cab, forgoing the medallion and get to do this by essentially saying, "I'm a livery cab but I'm not really a livery cab."

a reply to: eluryh22

Wrong. A livery cab allows you to pick up all passengers that hail you from the street. Uber is a pre-contracted service. Completely different.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Ah. NOW we're getting somewhere. Thank you for that.
I still suspect some shenanigans, but that definitely goes a long way to helping me understand this brouhaha.

a reply to: eluryh22

No problem. It is typically illegal in most cities for non-livery cabs to pick up street hails without a medallion. Even in New York there are special, green Boro Taxis that are able to pick up street hails in the Outer Boroughs that cannot pick you up in Manhattan.

a reply to: eluryh22

This is off-topic and I apologize, but I had to say that I love Columbo. "Just one more thing!"

a reply to: Moana

a reply to: eluryh22

Uber doesn't own any cars. Uber is merely an application that connects drivers with passengers. The way the got around the taxi medallions is really that they are well funded and because so many people use them and actually like the service, the regulatory bureaucracy can't win. Uber lawyered up and exposed the insanity of the regulations.

Uber basically gave the middle finger to the bureaucracy.

I suspect there will be little to no formal taxi cab industry as we know it in 10 years.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: eluryh22
What about cities that have a Taxi and Limousine Commission?

The Uber drivers are still required to have insurance, a background check and a license. They just do not have to buy the obscenely-priced medallions which are a money making scam.

Is that special insurance? Special policy? I know a lot of pizza drivers that are rudely awakened to find that their insurance company found out they were delivering and wont cover an accident.