African Americans Help Hillary Win Nevada Democratic Caucus:

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You weren't talking to me, or with me, but -
congratulations.

Well done for at least looking it up and educating yourself.

Thanks. I am standing right now taking my bows.


I find it much more satisfying to acknowledge my errors and move on. Some people will continue to argue a point even when it has been shown that they were in error. However, that ultimately does not "Deny Ignorance."

Thanks for the kind words!

-dex

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Right. Show me how we pay for it.

That's not too much to ask.

A fair question. Considering it has already been done in other countries, a couple of things.

1) Tax the extreme wealthy and corporations more, in a manner that is commensurate with the gain they are extracting from society.

2) Pass regulations requiring a more equitable sharing of dividends from private sector profits to all employees. It is a fact that only the upper class' wages have increased since the 1970's, while production/capita and gdp/capita has risen extensively.

3) Stop spending a fortune on American empire. That alone would fund a few of these policies.

Maybe African Americans don't want Bernie for the same reason white Americans don't. This isn't the 1950's anymore. Minorities want to be successful just as much as us whities. And they succeed, in sports, in music, in showbiz, in politics (half-black pres), in business.

I was in a rental car with no music options, so I was forced to listen to the radio. I came across a station that was geared towards African Americans. They were discussing the Beyonce halftime show. Their take was that Beyonce is saying it's time for the African American woman to shine - through Capitalism. I don't know how true it was, but these women on the show made it sound convincing.

Stop treating black people like they are downtrodden. They are seeing other blacks succeed, and they are excited about these opportunities. I'm excited for them as well.

Disclaimer: I'm white, so this is only a theory of mine.

a reply to: Spider879

originally posted by: whatmakesyouright
Maybe African Americans don't want Bernie for the same reason white Americans don't. This isn't the 1950's anymore. Minorities want to be successful just as much as us whities. And they succeed, in sports, in music, in showbiz, in politics (half-black pres), in business.

I was in a rental car with no music options, so I was forced to listen to the radio. I came across a station that was geared towards African Americans. They were discussing the Beyonce halftime show. Their take was that Beyonce is saying it's time for the African American woman to shine - through Capitalism. I don't know how true it was, but these women on the show made it sound convincing.

Stop treating black people like they are downtrodden. They are seeing other blacks succeed, and they are excited about these opportunities. I'm excited for them as well.

Disclaimer: I'm white, so this is only a theory of mine.

Non of the above have anything to do with their support of Hillary , most simply haven't looked at the differences between him and her, and went with whom they knew better on a surface level, she is unlikely to reinstall glass steagall so when the banks crash and burn again, because of their precarious situation many will be left holding the bag longer and take more time to recover than other Americans, the Subprime mortgage debacle is a perfect example of that , in many ways AAs are the Canary in the coal mines.

a reply to: Spider879

So disappointed, sigh! what were they thinking, if this trend continues then they may have to eat the blame for giving us Trump or Ted Cruz, especially if Hillary is indicted for her text problems, younger black folks need to take control from the older less imaginative establishment types sending them into retirement , stop taking ques from these people.

I respect your opinions and your posts, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

One of the most important things about being first class citizens is that we should be able to vote for anyone we want regardless of our reasons. Or to be blunt, white Americans, Jewish Americans, Asian Americans, and Latino/Hispanic Americans can vote for whoever they want and there's no stigma to it. So why are we the only ones being held to a higher standard? There's a flattering misconception about us, but the reality is that not all black people are progressives nor revolutionaries. Some of our demographics are heavily invested in the status quo, so they can't be expected to vote against their own interests.

Let's not forget, the only black person running for President in one of the 2 major parties this cycle was a Republican! And the only black person on the Supreme court is a staunch conservative. And don't forget Herman Cain in 2012, who was previously the head of one of the Federal Reserve's regional branches.

So to be blunt, white Americans can be libertarian, fascist, socialist, warmongers, pacifists, neo-Nazis, or civil rights activists and there's no controversy. They can be the largest demographic to support Trump, Cruz, or any other far right teaparty movement, and there's no "blame" there either. And there shouldn't be any "blame" because they're just people supporting their own priorities. I think we should be held to the same standard, right?

Of course, everyone here should know that I'm a raving socialist ideologue. I wish more people of all demographics would support my plans and ideas and would absolutely love it if everyone voted in unison with my goals. But one of the harsh realities I'm having to face while preparing myself for a future political role is this: different people can have vastly different ideas of "right" and "wrong" when it comes to policies. And what's right for me isn't necessarily right for someone else.

As an example, I couldn't blame NBA athletes or people who are established in their professions for being against socialists like Bernie or myself. Those people stand to lose a lot more from a full scale socialist revolution than other demographics because they'd probably be forced to sacrifice large parts of the system they're so heavily invested in. I'd still ask for their support, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't understand if they rejected me. Because my plans don't necessarily match up with their priorities or goals. Well, the same goes for black Hillary supporters. Instead of faulting them, we should look at their individual goals and priorities to see why they would support an establishment candidate.

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I hope they never see this pic then..


Hillary Kissing Former KKK Leader Senator Robert Byrd

a reply to: ketsuko

haha, i'm sorry i had to say this.. your pic looks like a cross between Clinton, Nicolas Cage 'and i love him he's a great actor', and Michio kaka,'forget his name... Ok there i said it. I needed something to smile about tonight and that did it for me.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

A very well thought out response , and off course you are correct there are no buts all are free to choose even if it turns out to be a horrible mistake, democracy is messy like that.

a reply to: Spider879

Yes, because the other Democrat to choose from is the antithesis of capitalism.

originally posted by: whatmakesyouright
a reply to: Spider879

Yes, because the other Democrat to choose from is the antithesis of capitalism.

Capitalism without a watch dog is cronyism and pre depression era America was a horrid place to live you were born poor.
without the socialist programs of FDR the majority of Americans would live in squalor.