The Aliens are Silent because They're Fish ?

Scientists studying images from New Horizons pass of Pluto's icy moon Charon believe it may in the past have hosted a sub surface ocean , the image below suggests that as the ocean cooled over time the creation of ice expanded the Moon causing the moon's surface to stretch and fracture.

www.nasa.gov...

The other Moons in our Solar System believed to host liquid oceans ,Europa ,Enceladus and Ganymede are considered possible locations to search for life and could perhaps be representative of other Solar Systems in the Galaxy / Universe , maybe the vagaries of Planets make life on them uncommon or short lived but the protective environments of Ice coated Moons give life on them a much better chance .... unless they loose their heat of course.

There seems to be a lot of water in our Solar System with much of it sloshing about on Moons of planets that can't host life , perhaps our Solar System is not the exception and there are far more habitable Ice covered Moons out there than Planets , I wonder if it's possible that there are many intelligent civilizations out there but we will never find evidence of them because they're aquatic and living in sub surface oceans on the Moons of planets rather than planets themselves , perhaps the Aliens are Silent because They're Fish , or rather , aquatic.

As with my similarly titled thread these are just the musings of someone who wants to find other life out there and trying to make sense of the apparent silence.

That is an interesting thought for sure. What do you mean by intelligent civilization though? One like human or one like something else entirely? Very excellent op gortex!

Maybe.

We move about on the surface of the Earth through air -- but air can be considered to move and act like a fluid when you get right down to the physics of that movement. So why not have aliens that move around the same as we do through a fluid, except that their fluid is denser and more viscous?

a reply to: gortex

The Aliens are Silent because They're Fish ?

Many of them, yes.

a reply to: Brotherman

By intelligent I'm thinking species with rational thought , culture and society , not exactly like ours but something we would recognize ... if we met them which given their location would be unlikely.

a reply to: gortex
Instead of radio telescopes maybe we should be looking at thermal vents a society like this would require energy and what better place then that 😁


All I can picture now is Kanye West accepting he's a gay fish now lol

So the space ships are huge reservoirs to provide them with a comfortable travel environment, and when one crashes the entire crash site is flooded. Like what used to be Roswell, is now Roswell Lake.

a reply to: gortex
Very interesting theory but why stop at fish? Aliens could be silent because they could be monkeys, cats or an altogether "alien" life form. The bigger question is, what do you class as intelligent civilization?
Take ants for example, they build cities, they have a very structured life and in reality they are one of the most successful species on Earth. Yet they will never build a radio, they'll never build and fly a space ship, but they could achieve world dominance if the scenario was right.

originally posted by: angeldoll
So the space ships are huge reservoirs to provide them with a comfortable travel environment, and when one crashes the entire crash site is flooded. Like what used to be Roswell, is now Roswell Lake.

How would a fish know that there were stars in the first place?

Because you'll only see them if they let you. They're millions of years and more, ahead of us in technology. We only see what we're allowed to see in our solar system/universe, world even.

a reply to: crayzeed

Very interesting theory but why stop at fish? Aliens could be silent because they could be monkeys, cats or an altogether "alien" life form.

I think that's true , there is an argument that higher intelligence may be a rarity and may wipe itself out before it gets a chance to announce it's existence , perhaps being aquatic would give a species a better opportunity to advance as things don't go bang underwater unless encased in something that can't be created under water .... metal.

Well it fits in with the Sumerian and Akkadian Apkallu.

According to the myth, human beings were initially unaware of the benefits of culture and civilization. The god Enki sent from Dilmun,[1] amphibious half-fish, half-human creatures, who emerged from the oceans to live with the early human beings and teach them the arts and other aspects of civilization such as writing, law, temple and city building and agriculture.[2] These creatures are known as the Apkallu.

Fishy god stuff

Lots of aquatic deities floating around in history. And let's be honest, from space, to a fishy alien, the Earth must look like a bloody enormous water park!

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: gortex
Very interesting theory but why stop at fish? Aliens could be silent because they could be monkeys, cats or an altogether "alien" life form. The bigger question is, what do you class as intelligent civilization?
Take ants for example, they build cities, they have a very structured life and in reality they are one of the most successful species on Earth. Yet they will never build a radio, they'll never build and fly a space ship, but they could achieve world dominance if the scenario was right.

Insects display "emergent" behavior rather than abstract intelligence. There are virtually unlimited ways that life can evolve and what we would recognize as intelligence emerge. There is only a narrow range of intellects we would be able to communicate with, though. We can only communicate with beings whose intelligence emerged in a similar environment to our own. We have cohabited this planet with extremely intelligent aquatic mammals, and have only recently begun to understand how they communicate.

I'll donate a buck to have them build a rover with an ice auger and a fishing pole.

What kind of bait would you use to fish on Charon though?

Maybe en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: rickymouse
I'll donate a buck to have them build a rover with an ice auger and a fishing pole.

What kind of bait would you use to fish on Charon though?

Maybe en.wikipedia.org...

I don't know about Charon but on Pluto the bait of choice would be a mouse...Mickey Mouse!

Ba-Dummm...I'll get my coat.

a reply to: rickymouse

There is actually a team developing a submersible to be controlled by a lander on the surface. It would use AI to make exploration decisions as the time lapse from Earth would be too great.

www.astrobio.net...

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: rickymouse

There is actually a team developing a submersible to be controlled by a lander on the surface. It would use AI to make exploration decisions as the time lapse from Earth would be too great.

www.astrobio.net...

I suppose they could use a daredevil and steel leader to attract the fish. But what if the fish eats the submersible?

a reply to: rickymouse

We will have an excellent opportunity to get to know alien life from the inside!

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: angeldoll
So the space ships are huge reservoirs to provide them with a comfortable travel environment, and when one crashes the entire crash site is flooded. Like what used to be Roswell, is now Roswell Lake.

How would a fish know that there were stars in the first place?

Space telescopes.

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: angeldoll
So the space ships are huge reservoirs to provide them with a comfortable travel environment, and when one crashes the entire crash site is flooded. Like what used to be Roswell, is now Roswell Lake.

How would a fish know that there were stars in the first place?

Space telescopes.

Equipped with fish-eye lenses, of course.