Amid Year of Lethal Violence, Extremist Groups Expanded Ranks in 2015

originally posted by: TechniXcality
I think extremism in any form is disgusting, however and there is important nuance to be understood here, Islamic extremism is the number one threat to humanity as a whole at this juncture in time.

Lol. Even disregarding domestic extremism, this isn't even CLOSE to true. Here's the top 10 (in the world):
The top 10 causes of death

If you notice, terrorism (in any form) doesn't even make the list. Car accidents do though...

So sure, lets take care of our idiots (and we do) but also lets confront Islam and the doctorine that spawns jihadists who cut heads off kill babies, oppress women, blow up innocent people the list goes on and on. Even worse this failed ideology is being imported into the west at unprecedented rates. Right wing extremism I believe will increase and should be expected to increase as Islamic extremism spreads unhinged.

You are being one of the propagandists that is fueling this false narrative that causes the rise in extremism here.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I didn´t you did. I have not mentioned m-people not once in this thread. I was talking about patriotism which you are willingly dooming in the sake of PC and rendering patriotism evil in so many levels.
So tell me what is wrong with patriotism. What would be your ideal country alike. Patriotism as i see is the very foundation of USA.

Patriotism? THAT'S what you are talking about? First off, patriotism isn't illegal or wrong, but taking matters into your own hands under the auspices of "patriotism" IS wrong.

In any case this is a complete strawman. I never said there was anything wrong with patriotism.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So they aren't cutting off heads, they aren't blowing # up, they aren't killing apostates, and committing genocides, and causing mass refugees crisis we haven't seen since the days of World War Two?

And you are sitting here bitching about the guys who won't bake cakes, or who squat like homeless people in a fed building (all of them in jail, and one dead) or the bacon igmos, yet somehow I'm the propagandist. You need some perspective

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So they aren't cutting off heads, they aren't blowing # up, they aren't killing apostates, and committing genocides, and causing mass refugees crisis we haven't seen since the days of World War Two?

Please quote where I said any of these things. Otherwise stop being sensational.

And you are sitting here bitching about the guys who won't bake cakes, or who squat like homeless people in a fed building (all of them in jail, and one dead) or the bacon igmos, yet somehow I'm the propagandist. You need some perspective

Apparently you need more if you think Muslims are the number one threat to humanity. MUCH more.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

If you agree that those things are happening and by Islamic extremists, then what the hell are we talking about here krazyshot? Turn circles all you want when you juxtaposed the two it became painfully obvious you are just dead wrong. That's not to say we don't have idiots here, or right wing extremism that should be dealt with accordingly, and already is.

As for my comment regarding the number one threat to humanity it was in context of war and dangerous ideologies(similar to nazism and interestingly enough within veil of right wing extremism) and I didn't once say Muslims, I said Islamic extremism and the doctrine that they follow.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Definition of patriotism and nationalism are often missunderstood. Government renders for example survivalists as a extreme group. So aren´t survivalists also patriots quite often ? Survivalists are holding their rights to defend themselves, they as i could see also love their country and defend their government if they see it deserves it and are against government which they see to work against their rights, as bad and rotten.. so when they are not PC in agreement with current government they are extremists. PC means One World government.

A recent Department of Justice guide for investigators of criminal and extremist groups lists “constitutionalists” and “survivalists” alongside organizations like Al-Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood. The 120-page, “Law Enforcement Sensitive” guide to “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism – Terms and Concepts” describes itself as “a glossary designed primarily as a tool for criminal justice professionals to enhance their understanding of words relating to extremist terminology, phrases, activities, symbols, organizations, and selected names that they may encounter while conducting criminal investigations or prosecutions of members of extremist organizations.”

Link

So being PC people need to be unpatriotic.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

If you agree that those things are happening and by Islamic extremists, then what the hell are we talking about here krazyshot? Turn circles all you want when you juxtaposed the two it became painfully obvious you are just dead wrong. That's not to say we don't have idiots here, or right wing extremism that should be dealt with accordingly, and already is.

Well I'VE been trying to talk about domestic terrorists and domestic hate groups being on the rise in the United States and have been actively NOT trying to talk about Muslims, so why you asked me this question is beyond me. BUT, as an fyi, just because I acknowledge those things you mentioned doesn't mean I accept that the religion is a threat to humanity. That's just ridiculous hyperbole.

As for my comment regarding the number one threat to humanity it was in context of war and dangerous ideologies(similar to nazism and interestingly enough within veil of right wing extremism) and I didn't once say Muslims, I said Islamic extremism and the doctrine that they follow.

Oh, so now you are backpedaling and hastily moving the goal posts back after I showed how hyperbolic you were being?

a reply to: dollukka

You know, labeling a group as "extremist" doesn't necessarily mean that the government is going to come kicking their door down and arresting them. It's just the government labeling their behavior extreme (hence the word) and in need of further watching. We try to rationalize doing it to Muslims all the time. In this case though, it is white Americans that are doing the extreme things. They aren't special though. They need to get watched just like any other group.

I'm actually more concerned about the rise in hate groups rather than the extremist groups though. The rise in extremist groups will just see more of the idiocy like the Oregon standoff, but the rise in hate groups will inspire more events like the SC shooting.

Truthfully, I think this kind of # is put out by the PTB because we aren't in a state of fear which will allow them to manipulate us sufficiently with just the M word....
The Government has a Nazi agenda, and they'll say anything to promote it.....
Well see martial law and gun confiscation when they can work up a bit bigger blowback scenario on us......
I expect more incremental loss of freedoms over time.....
And as they further impoverish this nation you will see blowback...which will allow them to use as excuse...
I see the rise in Militias etc as a sign of the awakening

a reply to: Krazysh0t

As far as i know SC shooting was by one man, man who´s background were not checked and was able to buy a gun. Man who used drug called Suboxone which causes depression and mood swings. Is he linked to some hate group? Could it possibly be one confused guy under drugs doing that bad thing on his own?

Well everytime background check failes by officials they are tightening the laws for owning guns. What they should do is give people who sell fire arms without doing decent background check, fines that they think twice and do their job right.

Guns do not kill people do.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Krazysh0t

As far as i know SC shooting was by one man, man who´s background were not checked and was able to buy a gun. Man who used drug called Suboxone which causes depression and mood swings. Is he linked to some hate group? Could it possibly be one confused guy under drugs doing that bad thing on his own?

Hate group or no, he was DEFINITELY a racist and his motivations and words seem to suggest that he would be the lead domino in a stack of them that were about to fall leading to a race war.

Well everytime background check failes by officials they are tightening the laws for owning guns. What they should do is give people who sell fire arms without doing decent background check, fines that they think twice and do their job right.

Guns do not kill people do.

Does South Carolina even DO background checks? According to this website S. Carolina has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the country.

How Easy Is It to Get a Gun in South Carolina?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Looks like freedom of expression and freedom of religion are alive and well.