Pope Francis in a rare display of public anger as the faithful almost pull him to the ground

He should really tell those crazy people that he is nothing more than a man and not a deity and to stop acting stupid and worshipping another man.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

My expectations are only focused in so far as the representative of the Catholic Church could spend time with the people who have gathered, as a sign of respect. Why not spend all day greeting them? I am not hostile I am merely expressing my opinion and I do so without judgement. The pope can shake a few hands and then leave the masses. All I have written is that he could spend more time with the people.

Falling to the ground and breaking bones? The bodyguards grabbed him in an instant and when viewing the video clip it is obvious that a fall to the ground was impossible as there was a person directly in front of him. Hostility I think is only in your mind.

Much Peace - we certainly need it - Amanda

a reply to: everyone

Very forgiving compared to what I would be like if someone did that to my grandfather.

originally posted by: Amanda5

Falling to the ground and breaking bones? The bodyguards grabbed him in an instant and when viewing the video clip it is obvious that a fall to the ground was impossible as there was a person directly in front of him. Hostility I think is only in your mind.

Much Peace - we certainly need it - Amanda

It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about. He definitely could have fallen, and a fall at his age could be a death sentence. The person who did that was care less and selfish. Pope acted very reasonably .. and I dislike Catholocism and Popes.

3 pages ..... and still no one has brought up the Anger display by Jesus in the Temple
to the surprised response/reaction by Francis to over-excited members of a crowd...

What I still do not understand is the Pope shouting 'don't be shellfish, don't be shellfish'

what did this Papal admonition really mean?

originally posted by: St Udio
What I still do not understand is the Pope shouting 'don't be shellfish, don't be shellfish'

what did this Papal admonition really mean?

Perhaps there was a Red Tide bloom? So he was saying do not be unclean?

originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: mikeone718
Hey dude, it's Mexico so "concha" is not used try a different word.

He's Argentine, I certainly used the right word.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

How could he have fallen? Look closely at the video - there is a person in front of him. The person who is in front of him may have been harmed by the full weight of an adult human.

I agree with the fact that a fall - at his age - could be fatal. A fall at any age can be fatal when all the circumstances are considered. The bodyguards acted quickly and even if they had not - the person in front would have broken the fall.

I still think that a full day of meeting and greeting all the crowd is within the realms of reality. No comment about that fact.

When the crowd do not have to clamber to shake the hand of the one they worship - then the incident may not have happened. All in all I think this thread is very interesting - some people pay attention to detail while some do not. Human nature and psychology is always so interesting - don't you think?

Much Peace - we certainly need it - Amanda

As far as I can see ... The pope is calling to who ever pulled him over to not be selfish as he was pulled onto a person in a wheel chair ...

Sure ... People can be selfish but Francis on this occasion was showing concern for the person in the wheel chair.

I could be wrong ... He may have feared being injured himself

Some public idols throw themselves trustingly into the outstretched arms of their adoring audiences
...... I guess Francis does not roll like that

a reply to: gortex

Really?... the pope tells his own fans not to be selfish?... What an arrogance... tell the pope to sell most of the Vatican gold, or better yet give the gold away to the poor, and to give to the poor the properties being used and owned by the Vatican authorities for "vacations". Tell him to live himself a poor life, and then he can try to claim to others not to be selfish...

originally posted by: Amanda5
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

How could he have fallen? Look closely at the video - there is a person in front of him. The person who is in front of him may have been harmed by the full weight of an adult human.

So falling on a person and then onto the ground after could not hurt him? Or does he magically stick to the person like velcro?

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Really?... the pope tells his own fans not to be selfish? ... What an arrogance

They risked pulling a 79 year old man to the ground in their enthusiasm and as has already been pointed out pulling him down on to a child in front of him , arrogant or concern for the safety of both himself and the child.

tell the pope to sell most of the Vatican gold, or better yet give the gold away to the poor, and to give to the poor the properties being used and owned by the Vatican authorities for "vacations".

And that would achieve what exactly ?

Tell him to live himself a poor life, and then he can try to claim to others not to be selfish...

Educate yourself , this Pope already does that and did that before he became Pope.

I'm not religious but I see a difference in this pope , I couldn't care less about the Catholic church or any organized religion for that matter but am prepared to give credit where I think it's due and from what I've seen of this man he deserves some credit.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If you have your fall broken by another person - how do you continue to fall to the ground?? Much Peace - Amanda

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I just can't wrap my head around how some people worship this man, a mortal, as if he were some God, my Mother included.

He's the head of the church, most heads are looked at very highly by those of their religion. It certainly doesn't hurt matters that Francis is a genuinely decent human being who is undertaking some very needed reforms. To be perfectly honest, the church has made two big mistakes in the past 100 years. The first was Vatican 2 which watered down the religion and caused people to be less faithful. The second was electing Benedict before Francis as the previous Pope.

I suspect that most of his unpopularity with certain groups is because many don't like looking in the mirror at how a Christian (or Catholic) is actually supposed to act.

originally posted by: 2012newstart
The problem of the pope is not the crowds who cheer. But those billion + who do not go to cheer. Pope promised reform and that reform never came. Perhaps he has more time to do it?

It's not an easy thing to do, he's trying to reform but a central teaching of their church is forgiveness and turning the other cheek. It would be very much against their religion to expel the various priests. Moving them to where they can't harm children is about the most they can do, and even forgiveness at some point requires letting them be put back into a situation where they can in theory abuse people.

a reply to: rickymouse

I like this pope better than the others, he is more of a real person instead of an idol

They had to find a "opposite" to Ratzinger, you know the Ratzinger who got out when all the pedophila started getting "hot".

They made Australias George Pell a Cardinal a few years ago so he could hide in the Vatican. Now hes "too ill" to come back to Australia. Funny that

The royal commission has called for people to register their interest to witness Cardinal Pell's evidence given in Rome, which will be video streamed to a public hearing in Sydney.

Australia's most high profile Catholic has hit back at criticism over his inability to return to Australia to appear in person before the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

The commission accepted a doctor's report that said he would risk heart failure if he flew to Australia to testify.

He has also written to Acting Victorian Police Minister Robin Scott this week asking for an inquiry into a "maliciously timed" leak concerning a police investigation into abuse allegations.

Victoria Police has referred the matter to the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission (IBAC).

Cardinal Pell's evidence will appear live on the royal commission's website from 8:00am (AEDT) on February 29.

a reply to: St Udio

What I still do not understand is the Pope shouting 'don't be shellfish, don't be shellfish'

Well theres a conspiracy if ever I saw one. Christians identify with Pisces/Fish - what the Popes secretly saying is "I will break your hard shell; I'm the Pope after all"