Republican presidential debate (2/13/16)

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
I am finding it very creepy that Ted Cruz has LEAPED on the Death of Supreme Court Justice Scalia's death, as an issue in considering who should be elected, considering he served as a clerk and knew the man personally...


He's already stooped to the level of stealing votes from Carson in Iowa....


Everyday, while Ted is supposed to be outside the establishment... he appears to me to be willing to do anything to garner a nomination...


Reminds me of the shady ambulance chasing attorney's who have a giant Bible on their desk, and in their twisted mind, they think that as long as they ask forgiveness before they lay their head down to sleep, that their sins will be forgiven.....

I understand that not everyone believes, but for those that do, those folks who think that a prayer after daily dirty deeds, absolves you of guilt... have missed the message... Ted seems so far to fall into that category for me...

YMMV...

Cruz is a CFR minion same as Jeb,Lindsey Graham, and Rubio.

That certainly shines light!!! Thanks now I have to add him to the establishment candidates I hope the folks send packing....

That leaves... Carson, Kasich, Trump & Sanders....

time for a Beach Boys tune...

Donald: He also said about language, excuse me, he said about language, two days ago he said he would take his pants off and moon everybody....




Donald: ...and that's fine, nobody reports that...




We are screwed. This country is LOL

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

What's even sadder is Trey Gowdy on FNC filling in for Rubio who left the building, claiming he (Rubio) looked Presidential...

I'm still listening to CBS news...

I have Fox paused so I can catch all the after interviews.



Graham ripped into Trump, but of all the people to endorse Bush, who I like, Graham is just such a warmonger.

Everyone likes different candidates for different reasons. Just curious, why do you like Bush compared to any other candidate.

Across the board of policies he just resonates with me more than anyone else.
The conservative values I hold he seems to be aligned with them.

Second choice would be Bernie, third would be Trump.

I just think Bush will have a stronger foreign policy than the second two and that's important as a Brit looking in.
I look for a good Ally, I think Bush would be better diplomatically than the rest.

So... Trump pledges to not swear anymore? Ok. Seems like this is the least of his problems (and actually something I take no issue with), but I'll still believe it when I see it.

Another DNC candidate that is CFR.



Joe Lieberman is CFR.



John Kerry is CFR.



John Kasich is CFR. I actually like this guy. Total class act. But he's CFR.



John Edwards was CFR.



John McCain is CFR.



Zbigniew Brzezinski is CFR.



Henry Kissinger is CFR.



Tony Blair is CFR.



Gordon Brown is CFR.



Iranian Minister of Foreign Affairs Ali Akbar Salehi is CFR.



Turkish President Erdogan is CFR.

I have followed this thread.

So I do not want to come across as a "thread jumper"

This is what I think.

Clinton just got her in.


President Clinton again. It ain't as bad as you think.

originally posted by: crappiekat
I have followed this thread.

So I do not want to come across as a "thread jumper"

This is what I think.

Clinton just got her in.


President Clinton again. It ain't as bad as you think.

Just finishing up the debate on youtube, you're probably right.

Although, hopefully it will be Bernie.

Anyone one of the Republican candidates would be a major setback and I feel there is so much hate that has been building up for the past 8 years that we would just receive misdirection.

Except for Trump, he seems pretty liberal and isn't running to take any rights AWAY from Americans. I'd vote for him if I had to.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Is trump the only candidate other than Bernie that is not CFR connected?

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Is trump the only candidate other than Bernie that is not CFR connected?

Don't know, maybe Carson is clean, like it matters though.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

No surprises there.

Look at this poll, the Trump win is not what bothers me, it's how low Bush is and how it is being spun that he is winning
By the applauses Bush got and the pro-boo's directed at Trump the audience was stacked with establishment hacks for the GOP, Bush lobbyists, Bush has no support in the real world, his support is phantom like and only from die hard neo-cons, that are still under some weird illusion that the Iraq war was necessary.
Just remember the pro-Bush people tonight, are the same idiots laughing at George W joking about it here.


Trump is a Buffoon for sure, but his sparing with Jeb tonight and the crowds reaction reminded me of Ron Paul running and the same negative crowd reaction, tonight proved one thing to me with finality. Trump is not part of the GOP establishment in any way, he is just using them and they know it, and want to stop it.
Trump is a lot like Perot.

originally posted by: pianopraze
“there are no known cases in which an operation backing a White House hopeful has collected this much money in less than a week.”

Don't forget his banking ties. No one likes Cruz, but they've certainly managed to buy him off.
He's as bought out by the establishment as they get.

What's that cartel phrase? Plata o Plomo (Silver or Lead). Cruz has clearly made his choice.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Rubio reminds me of the young smooth talking candidate I remember from the early 90's...

Who smoothed his way into the Oval Office....

I don't buy that talk these days, I just worry about the youth who are just getting their feet wet in this election process...

I hope they don't fall for it like I did back then....

Whether or not he becomes President (he's the Republicans best option) he is a fantastic speaker and absolutely amazing at improv speeches (I don't get the feeling he rehearses them). Everything he says has this bit of general knowledge, a bit of slightly less general knowledge that's still true, and then a big lie. And he says it all in such a convincing fashion that he sells you the lie based on the small part you know to be true. Then when his talks are cut into sound bytes, it's always that initial true part that is repeated.

He does what he does very very well and it's going to take him far.

This is pretty much how it will go:

Trump: Derp derp wall.

Carson : Derp derp derp

Cruz: derp derp jesus

Rubio: derp derp war

Bush: derp derp im a bush derp derp.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
I hope Carson and Kasich stay in the race...

set up a cage match free for all between Trump Cruz Rubio & Bush and perhaps the last man standing can emerge and debate with civility and decorum...

Before I turned it off, Bush looked like he was very close to walking over to Trump and punching him in the face. It was written all over him, Trump saw it too doubled down on his attacks. The only reason we didn't see it get physical is probably because of the huge polling boost it would have given Trump if it happened.

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Looks to me that Trump finally came out of the closet as a Democrat tonight.

I'm only an hour in but his bashing of GW Bush isn't going so well...

Why?

Dont have to be a democrat to know bush was a # president.

Hell the Republicans might get more votes and respect if they admitted they made a mistake with that war criminal.

The audience was clearer paid off by the Establishment.
I stopped watching it.

Wow what a debate.. well it was more like something off Jerry Sringer frankly.

Take outs?

Audience is stacked in order to influence those watching on TV. It's obvious by the cheering and appluase and booing not being spontaneuous. It all felt so unnatural

What i really witnessed was one of the slimiest politicians I have ever heard - Ted Cruz. The level of his lying has reached proportions where he is just saying anything and repeated it over and over in the hope that one of the lies stick and works. He may as well have said last night that Trump killed Antonin Scalia, it would have been just about on a par with his other made up sensationalist sound bites. What a truly horrible individual.

Trump once again came across as an angry man who is too easy to wind up. Can't help himself and its hurting him. I'd be amazed to see him with SC from here.

Rubio was Mr Play it Safe all night - though he did bring himself to call Cruz a liar

Bush - hopeless again

Kasich - a sane man in a lunatic asylum

Carson - he has a website.

When Republicans debate, the loser is... Everyone.

My brain cells, my brain cells. I want my brain cells back.

Well, having watched the shoutfest - sorry, 'debate' - on YouTube I have to say that the GOP is now led by a bunch of utter lunatics. Kasich was the only nominally sane one. Trump spent all his time shouting the bullying, Cruz outright lied, Rubio left a trail of slime wherever he went, Bush was bad-tempered and Carson is still suffering from narcolepsy.

originally posted by: crappiekat
I have followed this thread.

So I do not want to come across as a "thread jumper"

This is what I think.

Clinton just got her in.


President Clinton again. It ain't as bad as you think.

Believe me, it will be worse. She's nothing like her husband, who despite questionable personal morality, was actually a good president. Hillary is just pure evil, a politician who makes all wrong decisions, emails and Bhengazi to name a few. If those who think things are bad under Obama, wait till Hil takes the helm.