Jesus Real Name Written in Odd A=L Atbash Ciphered Code in the Gospel?

originally posted by: UnBreakable
His real name is Jesus H. Christ. The H stands for Henrique.

rotflmao

a reply to: Restricted

Edited the post you replied to to include a few more tidbits and wiki-pages for this stuff. I seem to have stumbled across something of a mystery hidden between the lines in the Bible and Kabbalah

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: Restricted

Edited the post you replied to to include a few more tidbits and wiki-pages for this stuff. I seem to have stumbled across something of a mystery hidden between the lines in the Bible and Kabbalah

It does look that way.

Off to read.

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: Restricted


and 8:12
I, wisdom, dwell with prudence,
and I find knowledge and discretion.


6000 years ago a man and a woman destined to become humankind, broke the rules of their Lord and chose for themselves the path of knowledge, and end up being gods themselves. Knowledge is not really wrong, but with the implications involved— to a God— it would be unethical just to allow the humans into the deepest vaults of knowledge and wisdom. We've been breaking eggs ever since and still we can't agree on how to make a proper omelet.

As you say... Knowledge is not really wrong, but... What if we're not meant the knowledge without the wisdom. Wisdom is living through it. Knowledge is just knowing, but you can have knowledge without wisdom.

"I, Wisdom" tells me that God has both knowledge and wisdom, but human kind only has enough wisdom that each of us have lived through personally and never all together. Since, of course, you and I do not go through the same things in life but as a combined humanity, hmmmm.... Deep thought there.

Since we're all a part of God.. Spirit of God in each of us.. Would we possibly be the Wisdom that is of God?



Thanks for making me think! This is definitely interesting.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I put a triangle over it... אחע = To open something.

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: Restricted


and 8:12
I, wisdom, dwell with prudence,
and I find knowledge and discretion.


6000 years ago a man and a woman destined to become humankind, broke the rules of their Lord and chose for themselves the path of knowledge, and end up being gods themselves. Knowledge is not really wrong, but with the implications involved— to a God— it would be unethical just to allow the humans into the deepest vaults of knowledge and wisdom. We've been breaking eggs ever since and still we can't agree on how to make a proper omelet.

As you say... Knowledge is not really wrong, but... What if we're not meant the knowledge without the wisdom. Wisdom is living through it. Knowledge is just knowing, but you can have knowledge without wisdom.

"I, Wisdom" tells me that God has both knowledge and wisdom, but human kind only has enough wisdom that each of us have lived through personally and never all together. Since, of course, you and I do not go through the same things in life but as a combined humanity, hmmmm.... Deep thought there.

Since we're all a part of God.. Spirit of God in each of us.. Would we possibly be the Wisdom that is of God?

Thanks for making me think!

This is definitely interesting.

I see exactly what you're saying and I agree. I, personally, believe we are him.

But, based on all my occult reading, that disturbs me. God doesn't talk about being Legion, Satan does.

It's gotten very fuzzy and I've had to take a step back and question the wisdom of continuing to read hidden literature.

a reply to: Restricted

Maybe look at it like this...

You have a DAQ (Data Acquisition module) that takes information from sensors and translates them in to numbers and values. (Pretty much in the name lol). Lets say you have sensors all over the place. Consider humans those sensors, taking in all choices and seeing the outcome, relating all that info, every coin toss into the DAQ. Now the DAQ isn't a sensor and a sensor isn't really a DAQ. So they are very different.

Satan on the other hand, might be a competitor that duped the idea from the original DAQ for his own purpose. Remember, satan tries to put his thrown above God because he thinks he can do better. So, in many places through history, we see this entity trying to dupe every step for his own ends and possibly on purpose. Maybe one day he expects to confuse the masses so it'll be easier for him to take over the biz. Kinda like Google vs Yahoo, each one has the same product. One obviously came before the other, but the one that came last tends to be ahead in the market.

Yeah, it's a really insane analogy but that's the only way I can make my point to where it makes sense in my own head, lol.


Such a huge moment of clarity here on this thread alone. Makes me wish I had a few drinks at hand to contemplate further and deeper. Alas... I'm at work.

a reply to: StallionDuck

That makes sense and, more importantly, I'm comfortable with it.

I don't want to be messing with Satan.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

You wrote QUOTE "If I turn the wheels to (see pic below) let A (א) be L (ל), Heb. גולגאתהא or «GULGATHA» (the supposed Hebrew name of Calvary), a name that hardly make any sense in Hebrew— reads like Heb. יזאילמחל ..."

Golgol-tha means ('skull there' or 'place of the skull') in Aramaic = גָלגָלתָא

A gilgal =גלגל is a circle and a golgol is a skull in Aramaic(circlet of the head); The term Galilee comes from 'ha gilgal ha goyim' or 'circlet of Gentiles'

In Hebrew, Skull is גוּלגוֹלֶת (gulgolet) - all these terms are etymologically related for the word for 'circlet'.

Hope this straightens things out a bit !

originally posted by: UnBreakable
His real name is Jesus H. Christ. The H stands for Henrique.

There are those whom will actually not get your mockery and think it is genuine so here is a more informative source on the IHS which actually mean's Ihsous from the latin translation of the greek spelling for Iesous or as we say it Jesus.
newtheologicalmovement.blogspot.co.uk...

Of course Yeshua also works fine but I actually think that modern hebrew revisionism may actually not be correct and it may actually be Iesus or Yesous which is closer to Jesus than it is to Yeshua though the meaning is correct for the modern hebrew version of his name, Jah Saves being a close approximation though Jeshua is actually an alternative spelling for Yehoshua or Joshua which the early translators of the bible translated quite differently to Jesus as Joshua.

It does not matter though as those whom come to the lord come by faith and the spelling of his name is not relavent, whom he is, what he mean's to them and there faith in him are what matter.

I don't want to be critical but your post was derogatory and not even relavent, also it could lead others whom do not know your opinion's into believing you were speaking the truth and that the lord was a paris fashion designer or something, still to turn it around there are plenty of faithful christians in the body of christ with that name I am sure so he does own that name also but it is not the name he came to us by.

I actually am not a believer in Gammatria as it can easily lead some down the road of divination but this is still an interesting thread, true revelation come's from the holy ghost which for all of my sin's even I know.

So to summerise YOU ARE WRONG but you know that as it was a bad taste trolling joke, JHS is an Abreviation of the early Latin translation of the Greek name of Jesus which was J/IHSOUS and also J/IESOUS.

The name is holy to we whom have faith in him.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Calm down Francis. It's called a joke. Get a sense of humor. Plus it's not the name of a Paris fashion designer. It's the guy's name that mows my lawn. You're assuming everyone believes that a divine Christ existed. Faith is a term devised by the men who invented organized religion to make it a virtue to be intellectually lazy when they can't logically explain something.

a reply to: Sigismundus

But was there a place called this in the days of Jesus? They still keep fighting over which Calvary is the right one. And nothing seems to fit. So I go, a code for something?

a reply to: LABTECH767

Jesus was named after Isaiah. Iesous is a translation of Isaiah. Or Josva. Or Yeshua. Or Isai. Or Isaiel for that matter.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Today I added another wheel to my atbash key, one parallell to the outer one. When I had put it back together I straight away saw how yet another wheel would be needed to fully boot-strap this thing. Icing of the cake sort of. Now it has four concentric wheels on top of each other, with four alefbets going in all directions. Starting to look like a bleeding Enigma machine.



Kinda makes me think about Ezekiel's visions:

And as for their appearance, the four [wheels] had the same likeness, as if a wheel were within a wheel. When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went, but in whatever direction the front wheel faced, the others followed without turning as they went. [ESV] Ezekiel 10:10-11

originally posted by: Hex1an
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I put a triangle over it... אחע = To open something.

And it transliterates into AHA

That's a lol.

Then again, the middle one is a guttural ch as in Bach, well they all are actually, and the first Alef is possibly not voiced at all, difficult without the mesorah (vowel diacritics).

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: Hex1an
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I put a triangle over it... אחע = To open something.

And it transliterates into AHA

That's a lol.

Aha ... lol

The reversed inner wheel that is aligned exactly opposite, reads: פהק - Yawning. This would align two triangle(Star of David)

So we have: to open something(Eyes/mind?) and yawning(Waking/sleeping?) translated from the Star of David : אחע - פהק

originally posted by: Hex1an

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: Hex1an
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I put a triangle over it... אחע = To open something.

And it transliterates into AHA

That's a lol.

Aha ... lol

The reversed inner wheel that is aligned exactly opposite, reads: פהק - Yawning. This would align two triangle(Star of David)

פהק actually transliterates into PHQ that is F*ck! Lol this is hilarious!

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: Hex1an

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: Hex1an
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I put a triangle over it... אחע = To open something.

And it transliterates into AHA

That's a lol.

Aha ... lol

The reversed inner wheel that is aligned exactly opposite, reads: פהק - Yawning. This would align two triangle(Star of David)

פהק actually transliterates into PHQ that is F*ck! Lol this is hilarious!

Incredible lol..

So we have: to open something(Eyes/mind?) and yawning(Waking/sleeping?) translated from the Star of David: אחע - פהק

Also : F*ck and lol.

a reply to: Hex1an

I see now that it must have been להק (LHQ) and not פהק (PHQ) in your star-of-David code Gave us a bit of a laugh though

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: Hex1an

I see now that it must have been להק (LHQ) and not פהק (PHQ) in your star-of-David code

Gave us a bit of a laugh though

Oh that's a shame lol.. Yeah very funny.

Love the Wheel, It's very creative thinking so big kudos to you.