BREAKING: North Korea has fired a long-range rocket critics see as cover for banned missile test.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Materials is the hardest part. We had some pretty spectacular failures in the early days because the materials weren't up to snuff. But all of the above definitely play a role.

a reply to: ExNihiloRed

I think your second hypothesis underestimates the level of indoctrination North Koreans are put through. I suppose it's possible, but I would put it in the extremely unlikely category.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ExNihiloRed

I think your second hypothesis underestimates the level of indoctrination North Koreans are put through. I suppose it's possible, but I would put it in the extremely unlikely category.

I would tend to agree. With that said, there was a lot of dissension among some of his generals, etc. that got snuffed out (murdered) so who knows what goes on behind closed doors and is kept locked up because any hint of dissension is a quick pass to the afterlife.

Germany, WWII comes to mind.

a reply to: notmyrealname
www.nytimes.com...

I was ON the DMZ after a border incursion in 86 and there have still been shooting incidents MORE since the US has stopped patrolling it.

South Korean government says the North Koreans will be releasing a "special statement" soon. This should be good

a reply to: cavtrooper7

So I ask the question again:

"Can someone please tell me the last time North Korea attacked the US?"

As far as I can tell the DMZ is located in Korea.

No offense to your service as I have served in combat as well however, the question still stands....

originally posted by: Shamrock6
South Korean government says the North Koreans will be releasing a "special statement" soon. This should be good

"It was a great success. We have conquered the devil nation America. They have also awarded us gold medals in every event in advance of the olympics because no one will be able to compete with us."

This is supposed to be the launch.

Do you know is that NK media or SK media or otherwise? I wonder if it was televised in NK.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Report is in Japanese regarding the launch,basically spoke that the launch was in good weather with no clouds, went straight up and looked like a missile; also it looked like the launch was a success. Nothing more of mention.

a reply to: ExNihiloRed

Japanese news

Associated Press article propaganda piece stating the following:

BREAKING: North Korea has fired a long-range rocket critics see as cover for banned missile test.

No mention of who the 'critics' are; no mention of what happened; never mind that South Korea and Japan are not freaking about it....

Doesn't anyone get tired of the false alarms all the time or am I the one that is just not paranoid enough? We can tell when someone is fueling a missile well before launch anywhere in the world (above ground and through logistics, below also) so why publish more fear porn on a non-issue?!

Stop playing their game; nobody in the pentagon has had an itch over this however AP keeps you in fear.

originally posted by: notmyrealname
Associated Press article propaganda piece stating the following:

BREAKING: North Korea has fired a long-range rocket critics see as cover for banned missile test.

No mention of who the 'critics' are; no mention of what happened; never mind that South Korea and Japan are not freaking about it....

Doesn't anyone get tired of the false alarms all the time or am I the one that is just not paranoid enough? We can tell when someone is fueling a missile well before launch anywhere in the world (above ground and through logistics, below also) so why publish more fear porn on a non-issue?!

Stop playing their game; nobody in the pentagon has had an itch over this however AP keeps you in fear.

North Korea's planned rocket launch angers US, South Korea and Japan

South Korea on Wednesday urged Pyongyang to drop the launch, warning it would pay dearly if it went ahead.

In a government statement the South said any missile test disguised as a satellite launch would pose a “grave threat” to world peace and security.

“North Korea must immediately drop its plan to launch, paying heed to the fact that any launch using ballistic technology is in breach of UN resolutions” against it, the statement said.

“Should the North push ahead with the long-range missile launch, which would pose a grave threat to peace and security in the region and the world, it would have to pay the price dearly,” said the statement, which was read by Cho Tae-Yong, a senior national security official at the presidential Blue House.

a reply to: ExNihiloRed

Well I guess you beat me with more AP news using companies....

I have nothing more to add here as you folks have it all figured out.

Of course nothing will happen or the PTB will try to make a war with NK to take everyone's mind off the BDI and the global economic devastation happening as we speak.

Keep your heads down because when it hits, it will not be a missile from NK or anywhere else; it will be a banking glitch in the beginning.

...addition, of course nobody mentioned the weather conditions being perfect for launch today and possibly not as good tomorrow....

a reply to: notmyrealname

South Korea has already asked for an emergency session of the UN Security Council. Britain has already issued a statement confirming the launch. I wouldn't call that freaking out, but I wouldn't call it nonplussed, either.

ETA - the Japanese PM has also vowed to "take action." So I mean...yea.

a reply to: Shamrock6

It is the same game over and over; How many times have we heard about the potential horrific events that could unfold if the whacko in NK unleashes?! It is fear porn folks; zoom out and take a look at what is happening globally in banking and commodities. What the Baltic Dry Index has been doing and why. Stop looking up when you see something shiny in the tree ahead (it's a trap!) gain a position of increased elevation (figuratively zoom out) and take in what is really happening.

Just my opinion.

a reply to: notmyrealname

I'd rather keep an eye on all of it than pretending North Korea isn't run by a nutjob. Don't disagree that there's more going on than Korean saber rattling, but I'm not going to pretend NK is a complete non-issue.

originally posted by: notmyrealname
a reply to: Shamrock6

It is the same game over and over; How many times have we heard about the potential horrific events that could unfold if the whacko in NK unleashes?! It is fear porn folks; zoom out and take a look at what is happening globally in banking and commodities. What the Baltic Dry Index has been doing and why. Stop looking up when you see something shiny in the tree ahead (it's a trap!) gain a position of increased elevation (figuratively zoom out) and take in what is really happening.

Just my opinion.

To be fair, I am monitoring that while I keep up-to-date on what is happening throughout the world, including NK.

Don't lose sight that the existence of one threat doesn't mean there are not others.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: notmyrealname

Don't disagree that there's more going on than Korean saber rattling, but I'm not going to pretend NK is a complete non-issue.

This. There are a multitude of problems. No one is saying NK is the sole or even greatest threat (although I think Bernie Sanders did, which shows how ignorant he is of the world). NK is something to keep an eye on, but I in no way said or think it is the greatest threat facing the US or anyone right now (other than maybe SK).

a reply to: notmyrealname

Report is in Japanese regarding the launch,basically spoke that the launch was in good weather with no clouds, went straight up and looked like a missile; also it looked like the launch was a success. Nothing more of mention.

The vapor trail looked like a Chinese launch vehicle with the two side mounted rocket boosters.



The Chinese CZ-3C used a 2 piece shroud to protect the satellite during ascent not a five piece shroud so who knows.