Anti Gravity Outlawed?

a reply to: Bedlam

The researchers' video shows several items being placed in the test area, from drops of water to small plastic and metal machine parts and a length of a wooden match measuring three centimeters.

The device uses sound at the frequency of 40 kHz — beyond the upper limits of human hearing at 20 kHz.

The University of Tokyo researchers' video, called Three-Dimensional Mid-Air Acoustic Manipulation [Acoustic Levitation], expands on a research article they submitted to arXiv, a science publishing site maintained by Cornell University, last month.

Here's how the researchers describe their work:

"Our manipulation system has two original features. One is the direction of the ultrasound beam, which is arbitrary because the force acting toward its center is also utilized. The other is the manipulation principle by which a localized standing wave is generated at an arbitrary position and moved three-dimensionally by opposed and ultrasonic phased arrays."

The Japanese researchers — Yoichi Ochiai, Takayuki Hoshi, and Jun Rekimoto — say they're looking at ways to manipulate larger objects. And it seems they also see their device as a potential option for moving items around in low-gravity environments, such as in space or orbit.

"It has not escaped our notice that our developed method for levitation under gravity suggests the possibility of developing a technology for handling objects under microgravity," they write.

The levitation techniques open another window into a potential future of manipulating devices — earlier today, Mark wrote about an MIT project that created a way to let people move items remotely within a workspace.

We first spotted the eye-catching video of their sound-levitation work at the tech site Hardware 360.

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a reply to: Kashai

That's not "trillions of decibels " though, that's acoustic levitation, which is even crappier.

Go do some basic googling of science sites (not ct) and you'll discover that floating objects in null nodes of a sound field is limited to fractions of an ounce, doesn't scale well, and at the obscene upper limits of power still runs into hard physics limits way before wafting multi ton objects into orbit.

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Kashai

That's not "trillions of decibels " though, that's acoustic levitation, which is even crappier.

Go do some basic googling of science sites (not ct) and you'll discover that floating objects in null nodes of a sound field is limited to fractions of an ounce, doesn't scale well, and at the obscene upper limits of power still runs into hard physics limits way before wafting multi ton objects into orbit.

Nor is this "anti-gravity" -- i.e., it isn't manipulating the way the force of gravity is acting upon something.

We can do it. Im working on it, do you have any idea how hard is to go against all fundamentals and all thoose old farts with Ph.D's? With anti gravity comes time travel and perpetual motion machines

The only antigravity research I've read was around Gravity Shielding and it has yet to be independently replicated. The experiment I recall was done in eastern europe (Russia?) and involved a spinning superconductor and some kind of patterned magnet. They showed that objects hung over the device weighed slightly less, but there were theories proposing that it was some other effect at work and the demonstration wasn't replicated outside the lab. Supposedly NASA had expressed interest in it and sent engineers to talk with the man. I believe Wired Magazine had covered it.

Its pertinent to note that the first gravity waves were recently observed. That important discovery may help further the research by helping establish what gravity is exactly and what form it really takes.

originally posted by: boomstick88
We can do it. Im working on it, do you have any idea how hard is to go against all fundamentals and all thoose old farts with Ph.D's? With anti gravity comes time travel and perpetual motion machines

Lol those old farts run the roost

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: boomstick88
We can do it. Im working on it, do you have any idea how hard is to go against all fundamentals and all thoose old farts with Ph.D's? With anti gravity comes time travel and perpetual motion machines

Lol those old farts run the roost

Precisely, hope i can knock in the right door. Not trying to tell them that they are wrong, just trying to show that they were looking at the wrong place.

originally posted by: boomstick88

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: boomstick88
We can do it. Im working on it, do you have any idea how hard is to go against all fundamentals and all thoose old farts with Ph.D's? With anti gravity comes time travel and perpetual motion machines

Lol those old farts run the roost

Precisely, hope i can knock in the right door. Not trying to tell them that they are wrong, just trying to show that they were looking at the wrong place.

read the thread in my signature

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: boomstick88

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: boomstick88
We can do it. Im working on it, do you have any idea how hard is to go against all fundamentals and all thoose old farts with Ph.D's? With anti gravity comes time travel and perpetual motion machines

Lol those old farts run the roost

Precisely, hope i can knock in the right door. Not trying to tell them that they are wrong, just trying to show that they were looking at the wrong place.

read the thread in my signature

Which one? I saw you have some threads. My understanding right now is that only 3 things have importance. Mass, Energy and information. Example:
Natural Gas. If i approached you guys about 500 years ago, when you were still using wood to cook food and heat your houses and told you that there are something that you cant see it, smell it or touch it, but you can burn it and cook your food and heat houses. I would look pretty f....ing insane. But thru the information we found out that natural gas does exist, if it has volume it have to have mass, now we are taking thas mass and turning into the energy.
Now I have the information about gravity, which we cant see, touch or comprehand(yet), hell we cant even explain what it is(i know what it is), information does have an volume, therefore it have to have an mass, next step is to extract energy, same goes into the gravity! Unfortunately, i'm very limited on resources and nobody would talk to me because i dont have an Ph.D and im not published anywhere. But f...k it, i know we can change that world, we can make a new foundation for coming generation, old foundation was based on incomplete picture!
Thank you
In the name of the father(information), son(mass) and the holy spirit (energy)

there is only one thread in my signature below this post
but here it is www.abovetopsecret.com......
a reply to: boomstick88

Since gravity is not a force, just straight-line motion along the geodesic, you can't build a 'device' to counteract it.

If you could 'bend space-time' you would not want to do it near an inhabited area or even near the Earth.

originally posted by: Maverick7
Since gravity is not a force, just straight-line motion along the geodesic, you can't build a 'device' to counteract it.

If you could 'bend space-time' you would not want to do it near an inhabited area or even near the Earth.

I did on the small scale there is a key how to do it and how to apply it.....gravity is an energy

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You seem a very patient.

Perhaps you can elaborate to allow me to better understand,

originally posted by: Maverick7
Since gravity is not a force, just straight-line motion along the geodesic, you can't build a 'device' to counteract it.

If you could 'bend space-time' you would not want to do it near an inhabited area or even near the Earth.

Do not as many GR proponents do; assume the modeling is the actual thing it models. QM proponents expect Gravity to be carried by a gauge boson called the graviton once the correct QG theory is developed.

I can make a model of time involving gears and pendulums and the like that absolutely will make accurate predictions but absolutely really isn't anything close to what time really is. I can do the same for celestial mechanics and have it accurately predict planetary orbits positions and so forth but be absolute bollocks as to the way orbital mechanics actually work.

a reply to: Bedlam

It seems your responses to me are really lame.

originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: Bedlam

It seems your responses to me are really lame.

I'm sure the truth seems lame, if you want to live in an uninformed world. Sometimes, you have to understand why things work the way they do before jumping off the 'what if' cliff.

originally posted by: boomstick88

originally posted by: Maverick7
Since gravity is not a force, just straight-line motion along the geodesic, you can't build a 'device' to counteract it.

If you could 'bend space-time' you would not want to do it near an inhabited area or even near the Earth.

I did on the small scale

there is a key how to do it and how to apply it.....gravity is an energy

can one read about your work on the net?

a reply to: Bedlam

The truth is you sound like someone who would argue against powered flight , insult people because you were sure it was impossible .

!50 years ago.

I mean seriously no points I have brought up really have anything to do with the topic but you insist upon arguing with me.

That means your points are completely irrelevant to this conversation.

What position do you have to support otherwise?

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
have you guys tried a tritone?

Used to have a through-the-wall neighbor living in the married dorms that had a truly unforgivable attachment to Slim Whitman and Ace Cannon records.

I put my speakers against the wall, found a really nice resonance of the wall with a function generator, set one channel to the resonance and the other to a truly tooth-squeaking dissonance. Every time I had to listen to "una paloma blanca", he got five minutes of "behavioral conditioning audio".

Jesus that's diabolical! better than my tritone actually.

I've been leaving out a critical component this whole time and didn't realize it! to get the clearest sound and flatest response frequency wise I usually find the frequency that's resonant with the room and dial back on it to prevent rattling of the room. I'm gunna do the opposite from now on when I do my tritone trick.


now to see if I can find some crazy engineer who can build me a 1000 watt tube amp on the cheap. I imagine a scene like out of back to the future with the supersized speaker. wonder if he can also make it so it goes to eleven.

a reply to: Kashai

seems to me you're describing some means of propulsion using acoustic levetation. which outside of a small chamber and very small lightweight objects would never work.

but it doesn't sound like antigravity to me.

but what do I know im no physicist or engineer.

now what this thread needs is a kickass, highly reputable, very experienced engineer who has worked on high end projects to give us a schooling. now if we could only find someone like that...there's gotta be a member on ats somewhere with the credentials to tell us what's what on the subject. .....now let me think, where to find one.......... .....