Anonymous Joins in Oregon (announced 1/30/16)

THINGS JUST GOT REAL INTERESTING!

They offer FULL SUPPORT and tell their members to attack.... computer-wise

I am not farmilar with them but they sound like they mean it-the ones who listed this YouTube vid.

Listen-comment. Wow.


www.youtube.com...

It starts off with some awlful music/sound-a speech then the announcement.

a reply to: anon72

They will never give up the names of those federal officers.

a reply to: Informer1958

They already got two. Check out this thread:

The FBI's/Bundy (& others) affadavit. [Read it and weep]
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is the "filing agent" and the agent in charge who is making the press announcements.

Just saying. More and more will come out as it goes to court.

They finally got the name of the FBI agent who shot Randy Weavers' wife in the head while she was holding her baby at Ruby Rigde so.....

Lon Horiuchi
en.wikipedia.org...
You will see why no agent will be held accountable by the presendent set in this case. He was charged but ultimately dropped years later.

a reply to: anon72

I can not see on the ground but that video of the killing appears to be an assassination, he stood no chance against those agent's and a non lethal take down was easily possible from that range so why kill?.

I have not been following that story as both side's seem to have extreme points of view but from what I just watched something stink's stateside in that case.

a reply to: LABTECH767

When's the last time you've seen a non lethal takedown in any situation?

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a reply to: LABTECH767

The officers reacted they way they did because he tried to run a check point, has had made statements saying he would use deadly force if needed to stop the government from arresting him and reached for a loaded weapon multiple times and even then they gave him a chance before they fired. Tasers don't work well with heavy winter clothing and pepper spray doesn't keep you from using a weapon.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: LABTECH767

When's the last time you've seen a non lethal takedown in any situation?

Didnt you get the memo ? Everyone stopped doing that years ago.

Funny thing about being "Anonymous" is that any one can claim to be ...

Anonymous Just Took Down the Website of the Bundy Standoff in Oregon - Jan 26, 2016

The group OP linked to is not "the real" Anonymous ... and the "real deal" really doesn't like being spoofed ...

... as I think we'll see.

a reply to: onequestion

A little over two years ago when I used to be retail security, front line and CCTV over here in Blighty, a crap and thankless job underpaid, abused and under valued and I spent more time helping disabled people than anything else in the relatively quiet locality I worked, shoplifters over here are more likely to bad mouth you than assault you (though that varies by town and I am a big bloke which probably put most off - sadly sideways as well these day's).

But from what I have seen of what is happening stateside over the past few years it seem's that the US police are far more likely to use lethal techniques and sadly I have to say that over here our police are starting to creep down that road to militarization as well (Think about it most police officers join because they want to help people and see it as a good carreer path) though the lethal option is not automatic here as our police still seldom carry gun's and only our armed response unity's (ARU's) do as well as an automatic and supposedly independant investigation into every use of a gun by the police, also the ARU's are only called out when a suspect is considered to be armed or extremely dangerous or in cases of suspected terrorist related activity and though we have a lot of gun's in the hand's of criminals over here in the UK they do tend to be most often converted replica's with limited poor quality ammunition as well as the fact that though they are still lethal they are also far less common than gun's (Real gun's) stateside.

The number of killing's from gun related crime in just one US city's like Chicago is probably far higher than the killing's from gun related crime in the entire UK for any given year anyway.

From the little I gather about this guy though he was rattling some feather's and probably standing in some corrupt official's or corporation's money making plan's so I believe the order to kill him was exactly that and came from higher than the agent whom pulled the trigger whom was just a dupe anyway, it definitely should have been a non lethal take down though unless he was attempting to draw his own weapon which I saw no evidence of.

I have never had a gun pulled on me, a cocked crossbow yes, a knife's yes (he nearly got killed running from me over soem train tracks as a train came and I would have lost my job for that over here), Syringes yes (six month's off while you get tested for drug addict infection's etc), broken bottles yes but not a gun thankfully.

I have to say though that even over here I personally have encounted corrupt and bad cop's so they definitely do exist.

I was just shocked at that video and found it upsetting as from what little I know this victim was not a criminal at all just a man fighting for his right's and he was then assassinated for doing so if I read that imagery correctly.

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: LABTECH767

The officers reacted they way they did because he tried to run a check point, has had made statements saying he would use deadly force if needed to stop the government from arresting him and reached for a loaded weapon multiple times and even then they gave him a chance before they fired. Tasers don't work well with heavy winter clothing and pepper spray doesn't keep you from using a weapon.

Even so though I accept the validity of your statement these officers should not be given a gun if they can not aim, his leg's and shoulder were easily within there extremely close range of fire, I know adrenaline is a factor in a stressful situation but was lethal action really necessary.

The fact you point out he has made threat's to kill must have been on these officers mind's however and on the strength of that I must say I now agree with your point, but I still think at least an attempt at a none lethal action should have been made, you are correct about the winter clothing as well as the barbs on a taser can not penetrate too many layers of fabrick but perhaps it is time the US in general invested in more none lethal weapons for it's police, that said it has a ridiculously high number of prisoners, far more than any other country in the west so it's prisons which we know are private money making franchises are actually over crowded making lethal police action's cheaper for the state responsible I suppose but that may be another conspiracy to think about.

a reply to: Gryphon66

How does the group make an official announcement?

Could you please list another source for your claim. Much appreciated.

I hadn't seen that before. Thank you.

a reply to: anon72

Not really making "a claim" aside from the fact that Anonymous took down the Bundy Website a few days ago (link provided) and that Anonymous does not like folks acting "in their name." (Common knowledge)

a reply to: Pyle

They all know this but they don't care. Ignorance will continue to be embraced and this man made out to be a martyr. Let them have their words for now because in a month his name will be forgotten.

a reply to: anon72

Not Anonymous. A creative video, but not them.

originally posted by: LABTECH767

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: LABTECH767

The officers reacted they way they did because he tried to run a check point, has had made statements saying he would use deadly force if needed to stop the government from arresting him and reached for a loaded weapon multiple times and even then they gave him a chance before they fired. Tasers don't work well with heavy winter clothing and pepper spray doesn't keep you from using a weapon.

Even so though I accept the validity of your statement these officers should not be given a gun if they can not aim, his leg's and shoulder were easily within there extremely close range of fire, I know adrenaline is a factor in a stressful situation but was lethal action really necessary.

Tell me this, if the protestor had gotten his gun all the way out of it's holster, do you think he would have limited his aim to the legs & shoulders of law enforcement?

I doubt it!

I think he ending up getting exactly what he ask for and exactly what he would have given back had he gotten the chance.

a reply to: reldra

I don't doubt you and will request it the thread to be closed.

How do they make announcements-when they do-please. You can IM me.

Thanks.

Request sent.

a reply to: Flatfish

There you lose the point, a police officer or FBI agent are supposed to uphold both the constitution of there country as this is a case which has happened in the US and also the right's of there citizens even if they disagree with them, in this case the hit I believe was ordered from above and these guy's were probably hyped up with the intent of killing him at the first opportunity, does that sound like they were doing there job or acting in a fashion outside of the law (Even if the orders to take this sanction came from there superior's).

Did he reach to draw his weapon in an agessive fashion, was he going to take aim at the officer of was he going to drop the weapon as they probably had ordered him to do so if he was reaching for it?.

The guy behind should have dropped to his knee to steady his aim and the guy in front should have negotiated his surrender if that is they had genuine ground's to arrest him.

Now I do understand that adrenaline play's a role, these two officer's may have familys and were not going to take the risk that one of them may have themselves ended up a casualty but that is actually part of the risk of the job they do and they are presumable already aware of the dangers of what they have signed up for but they still seemed to act far too quickly to pull the trigger and a possible action, I never even noticed him take a possible action against these agent's, all I saw was the guy behind shoot him in the back while he was apparently trying to surrender, indeed his hand's appeared to be no where near to any gun even if he was carrying one, this was an assassination short and simple and those agent's are probably not FBI though they may wear that jacket, I suspect another agency with a much dirtier track, one which should have been disbanded when it was shown and proven to have dealt drug's harming the US own youth and citizen's in a barbarous and traitorous action as well as interfering in the internal politics of the US own alies, they, this other agency are the real bad men, the type of men and organization for which the FBI was originally founded and intended to fight as it was intended to combat organised crime and crime syndicates like this other ROGUE agency even in the government but of course they ended up being the weaker agency and are now slaved to this other ROGUE group but of course this is only from an outsiders perspective.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Flatfish

There you lose the point, a police officer or FBI agent are supposed to uphold both the constitution of there country as this is a case which has happened in the US and also the right's of there citizens even if they disagree with them, in this case the hit I believe was ordered from above and these guy's were probably hyped up with the intent of killing him at the first opportunity, does that sound like they were doing there job or acting in a fashion outside of the law (Even if the orders to take this sanction came from there superior's).

Did he reach to draw his weapon in an agessive fashion, was he going to take aim at the officer of was he going to drop the weapon as they probably had ordered him to do so if he was reaching for it?.

The guy behind should have dropped to his knee to steady his aim and the guy in front should have negotiated his surrender if that is they had genuine ground's to arrest him.

Now I do understand that adrenaline play's a role, these two officer's may have familys and were not going to take the risk that one of them may have themselves ended up a casualty but that is actually part of the risk of the job they do and they are presumable already aware of the dangers of what they have signed up for but they still seemed to act far too quickly to pull the trigger and a possible action, I never even noticed him take a possible action against these agent's, all I saw was the guy behind shoot him in the back while he was apparently trying to surrender, indeed his hand's appeared to be no where near to any gun even if he was carrying one, this was an assassination short and simple and those agent's are probably not FBI though they may wear that jacket, I suspect another agency with a much dirtier track, one which should have been disbanded when it was shown and proven to have dealt drug's harming the US own youth and citizen's in a barbarous and traitorous action as well as interfering in the internal politics of the US own alies, they, this other agency are the real bad men, the type of men and organization for which the FBI was originally founded and intended to fight as it was intended to combat organised crime and crime syndicates like this other ROGUE agency even in the government but of course they ended up being the weaker agency and are now slaved to this other ROGUE group but of course this is only from an outsiders perspective.

Apparently, we didn't see the same take-down video, because I think I saw him reach for his gun.

Just the same, the fact that you "believe," or that they "probably," or that you "suspect," are nothing but conjectures and/or wishful thinking.

IMO, Law enforcement handled a known threat with appropriate preparedness and force.

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: LABTECH767

The officers reacted they way they did because he tried to run a check point, has had made statements saying he would use deadly force if needed to stop the government from arresting him and reached for a loaded weapon multiple times and even then they gave him a chance before they fired. Tasers don't work well with heavy winter clothing and pepper spray doesn't keep you from using a weapon.

When you set up roadblocks around a blind corner it's not surprising someone would run off the road. I agree it was an assassination when nonlethal methods could have been employed. It makes no sense someone would put their hands up then suddenly change their minds.