Taurus PT111 G2 9mm

It's tax time and the greedy hands of Uncle Sam have unclenched enough that I can go buy a new gun with the money he has so graciously decided I can have back. I looked and looked, narrowed it down, discarded, looked some more and finally settled on one.
The Taurus PT 111 G2 9mm. I had planned to get one a few years ago, but after hearing all the trouble people were having with them, they were getting a pretty bad rap, so I passed on it. But, after some reworking, Taurus seems to have gotten it right this time. I realize there are more expensive guns out there, but I'm working on a budget here and after reading many, many positive reviews and watching countless videos, I've decided on buying one.


I have a Glock 19 Gen 4 9mm. It shoots well, low felt recoil, very controllable, accurate, high capacity and just all around a great gun, so why would I want another? Well, it's....I....they're.....Ok, Ok, I just want another one. I enjoy the 9s. They're fun to shoot, the ammo is fairly inexpensive, even the good stuff is not that much and it's easy for my daughter to shoot. She has already decided to conceal carry when she reaches 21, so this is going to be her's [ if she wants it ] when she's old enough and it should be one she is comfortable and competent with. She doesn't like my .45, .38 Super Auto or .357 and if shooting is not fun, she's not going to keep learning. That pretty much goes for anyone. My son will shoot anything, but he too likes the 9s to plink with and has become very proficient with the Glock.
By the way, I'm proud of the way they handle weapons. Hand them one and the First thing they do is point it at the ground and safety check it, even when they just saw you do it. Finger off the trigger, mag check and rack the slide is second nature for them. Proud Papa!

Now, like I said, I've watched video after video and none have had a bad thing to say on the newer ones. Yes, I've seen FTF a couple of times, but that was always with some of the cheapest, crappiest, no name ammo on the market. Yes, a pistol should fire any round you put in it, but I do not buy that junk, so I don't foresee a problem. Trust me when I say, when I look in to buying a new gun, I Look. This is a treat for me, as I only get to buy one every 2 or 3 years, if that often, so I read reviews, get personal opinions and try to get some range time with someone else's, before I spend my money. I haven't had a chance to fire one, so I'm asking if anyone here has one or has had the chance to get some range time with one. Please, let's keep this on track. I am not going to spend $1500 on a Kimber or be talked in to another brand. I know every one has their favorites and swear by them, but I have Colts and Rugers and Glocks and Smith & Wesson and lions and tiger and bears.. I'm buying the Taurus, so I'd like to hear comments on it.

And if you're anti gun, just pass on this, ok? It's not that kind of thread and your agenda will fall on deaf ears.

This is the color I've decided on.



Or maybe the blued.......or the stainless......Nah, I'll just stick with the desert tan.........maybe?

Don't do it, I have the millennium in a .40
It's a good beginner gun but you will out grow it very fast.
If you like the look in the desert tan check out the M&P 9mm here a link

Check it out, that's a lot more reliable and performs better. IMO

a reply to: slapjacks

I am, by no stretch of the imagination, a beginner. This is for my daughter more than me. What I especially like about the Taurus, is the double strike capability and the slide safety. She is not comfortable with the Glock's lack of one and if she is not confident in it, she will not use it. The M&P, after taxes, will be almost twice the price, for basically a carbon copy of a Glock, which I already have.

originally posted by: slapjacks
Don't do it, I have the millennium in a .40
It's a good beginner gun but you will out grow it very fast.
If you like the look in the desert tan check out the M&P 9mm here a link

Check it out, that's a lot more reliable and performs better. IMO

I as well had a .40 millennium pro, good price and shot very well.

See yall talking about a .40

My better half has a S&W .40 that is mainly plastic except for the barrel and a few critical items. She's the manager of a local chain store episode and after seeing her son's father in law gut shot while making a deposit, she locked in and loaded up.

It packs a wallop...

Hope yall don't mind I dropped in

I had considered that Taurus.....
Psych!

G43,
trust me.

a reply to: RoadCourse

I have a Glock.

Might just buy one .
Looks good and if it holds up, plus the price on buds is great.

a reply to: DAVID64

Well it makes me feel better that you own a reliable G19.
It would make me feel even better if you owned a reliable sub compact G43.

a reply to: DAVID64

I would say that that is a good weapon of choice for your daughter, if shes good with almost an 8lb TP. but over all it has nice features. good trigger reset click and a safety measure for primer failure.

My retirement CC weapon is a gen 3 glock pocket rocket 33 (357) it is small but whoooooo BOY!!!!!!!!

a reply to: DAVID64

They're probably in different price ranges, but have you seen the new Ruger "American Pistol?"

It's a pretty gun, IMO, and seems to have some good promise as a good gun, but with it being so new, who knows at this point, and if you're looking for a compact-size or smaller, this isn't the gun for you. But since it's new, I thought I'd throw it out there for you if you haven't seen it yet.



I do agree that the backstrap of the grip is ugly, but when grip is concerned, comfort and control is what matters, and he notes that the rear of the frame makes it a bit uncomfortable. Who knows, just throwing this gun out there.

I have a Taurus PT92. It is one of my favorite guns. I always recommend Taurus. I have had great luck with them. Not one problem with mine.

a reply to: DAVID64

Don't know if you're a vet or first responder, but if so, you can look at the "qualified professionals" section on Bud's website and S&W offers a pretty decent discount, if you didn't know that already.

a reply to: DAVID64 I fired a relative's 9mm and it wasn't the best. Trigger was rough, recoil sharper than others this size, one stovepipe in three magazines using UMC 9mm 115g. It is an inexpensive piece and behaves as such. Some work well and some are troublesome. If you've already made up your mind, good luck. If not, have your daughter try a few others as her life may depend on it someday.
Consider a Walther P99C, PPSm2, or CCP. Sizewise these are slightly larger. If cost is a problem, look for used bargains. Shooters are like golfers and often run to the next new thing by trading perfectly good firearms. The P99 is the best 9mm around with paddle mag release, decocker, and multistrike capability. The S&W Shield in 9mm is also a good choice as is the compact Steyr. Alternatively, if size is a problem, a Kahr CM9 is a good choice if she can rack the slide but doesn't have multistrike. The Kahr is at the limit of pocket carry; the others may be purse/IWB carry only.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: slapjacks

I am, by no stretch of the imagination, a beginner. This is for my daughter more than me. What I especially like about the Taurus, is the double strike capability and the slide safety. She is not comfortable with the Glock's lack of one and if she is not confident in it, she will not use it. The M&P, after taxes, will be almost twice the price, for basically a carbon copy of a Glock, which I already have.

PLEASE stick with quality.

Taurus is another junk company with good marketing.

There are plenty of budget friendly firearms for concealed carry that are far more reliable USED than a Taurus is new.

The Ruger SR9c Can be readily found for $300, excellent gun. The Canik55 TP9 series pistols are the most extensively tested budget guns available right now. Bersa also makes excellent budget pistol that is also extensively tested, tried, and true.

originally posted by: RoadCourse
a reply to: DAVID64

Well it makes me feel better that you own a reliable G19.
It would make me feel even better if you owned a reliable sub compact G43.

Glocks aren't the only reliable handguns.
I've owned many pistols in 9mm and .45 acp by other companies including Taurus that were just as reliable.
On another note the Glock 43 is huge for what it is,my Sig P938 is almost half the size has the same recoil or less and comes with night sights from the factory,on top of all that it weighs less,I also noticed my P938 was more accurate.
The P938 also has a better safety IMO. I'm not really much of a Sig fan though Besides my P938 and P220.
I sold my Glock 43 for many of the same reasons I sold my Glock 42.

The Walther PPS and Beretta Nano are also smaller than the Glock 42,all of them are also thinner. If I were to carry a pistol the size and weight of a Glock 43 or 42,it would also be something holding more than 6 rounds per mag.I would find the Glock 43 and 42 a whole lot better if they held 8 rounds as they are definitely large enough to where only holding 6 is silly,especially since the mags are large enough to where they should hold more than 6,but they don't cause Glock likes their polymer mags.

@OP
I don't know about the PT111 G2 but I had a PT111 Millennium Pro in stainless that was very reliable,also had one of the best double action triggers I've ever felt on a polymer gun,I regret having sold it a while back.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: slapjacks

I am, by no stretch of the imagination, a beginner. This is for my daughter more than me. What I especially like about the Taurus, is the double strike capability and the slide safety. She is not comfortable with the Glock's lack of one and if she is not confident in it, she will not use it. The M&P, after taxes, will be almost twice the price, for basically a carbon copy of a Glock, which I already have.

PLEASE stick with quality.

Taurus is another junk company with good marketing.

There are plenty of budget friendly firearms for concealed carry that are far more reliable USED than a Taurus is new.

The Ruger SR9c Can be readily found for $300, excellent gun. The Canik55 TP9 series pistols are the most extensively tested budget guns available right now. Bersa also makes excellent budget pistol that is also extensively tested, tried, and true.

Bersa's are great I still have one of their .380's that gets carried occasionally(nickel model),Rugers are very good as well,even their .22's are reliable. Taurus gets a bad rap but they are not so bad,I've owned quite a few over the years that I've bought and sold or traded,all of them fired every time the trigger was pulled,if they don't work send it in they have a lifetime warranty. I would advise against a Canik TP9 they are good budget plinkers but they are noticeable wider than the Walther P99 they are based on,which makes them not so good for carry,I'm assuming the OP is going to be buying a carry gun because of the size of the PT111.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

YES! Looked at one of these the other day for myself, but I'm going to wait till next year and it's had time to shake out the bugs. If any.

a reply to: VashTheStampede

Canik55 will be releasing a compact version of the TP9 later in the year. I'm not sure if Century has an order on them already, but that is the rumor. They already released a competition version with a cut for a reflex sight, and the new SF model will sport replaceable front and rear sights that will include Glock standard dovetails.

That opens them up to a huge number of aftermarket night sights. They are also working deals for holsters to widen the market even more.

Honestly I don't know another company being able to meet these criteria for the price they are asking.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: VashTheStampede

Canik55 will be releasing a compact version of the TP9 later in the year. I'm not sure if Century has an order on them already, but that is the rumor. They already released a competition version with a cut for a reflex sight, and the new SF model will sport replaceable front and rear sights that will include Glock standard dovetails.

That opens them up to a huge number of aftermarket night sights. They are also working deals for holsters to widen the market even more.

Honestly I don't know another company being able to meet these criteria for the price they are asking.

If they do I hope they make the slide thinner,I have a Walther P99 in 9mm but I still like the Canik,the Walther gets carried though cause it is thinner and the grip is shorter so it prints less overall and is easier to conceal for me,part of that might be the slide shape too.(Gen 1 P99)