Army Officer on Oregon Killing: 'This could be the First Shot of 2nd American Revolution'

originally posted by: VoiceOfDissent
I don't know... I think the public turned on these guys and they lost most of their support.

They certainly sent them a lifetime's supply worth of dildos!

a reply to: Willtell

ALL PEOPLE MATTER Lets join hands, black, white, red, yellow, all Americans and fight for justice and what's right FOR ALL OF US

Can’t people get that through their sectarian brains?

If we can unite behind this common injustice we will prevail, if not we will never get justice

I agree, however The Powers That Be do not want this and will never allow it to happen.

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
As the President, Obama has to approve of any moves of his Agents.

Do you really think Obama micromanages the FBI, approving what every single agent does?

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer

originally posted by: clay2 baraka

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: TrueAmerican

Uhmmmmmm. I'm saying negative. Scott Bennett has a credibility issue. He is nothing more than a new day zoom radio or coast to coast host/writer. He is just spreading more doom porn.

BTW where is your source for "They just murdered the guy in cold blood, from the reports on the ground and from witnesses." ?

The sources that I have looked at make no mention of this. Do you have a source?

What really happened:

Yeah, the claim is BS..

It seems he was given a "deal" since he was released so early. How come none of the others arrested have a youtube video out explaining what happened?

IN this vid you can clearly hear him say two things that are worth investigating. One, he thinks Lavoy charged but says he did not witness the shooting. That sounds odd. He is saying don't let his death be in vain. That too is odd if the guy charged like the idiot in Fergurson.

Some of you on the left, need to think this out better just as the ones leaning anti gov that are ready to jump in with both feet to go all in on Revolution should.

I see we have Veterans, as am I, on both sides of this. I truly APPRECIATE all of you that have been in service to our country, thank you.

Several of you on the left in this issue are not ready to admit what is plain as the nose on your face.

Those of us who try to follow the facts have a concern for those facts when we can discern them from the BS being fed by the "manipulators" of the facts. Many of us truly know the gov is lying about a some things, and can't trust "willy-nilly" the story the Gov claims anymore than an eyewitness that claims the kid in Ferguson had his hands up.

Truly, the proof is everywhere that the Feds have some agencies with agenda's that are less then stellar. This situation sounds fishy but i am not saying i am convinced one way or another . I am sure we all know these guys were challenging the Feds in some form. We should always be NEUTRAL as we look into these things, as that is they way we find the truth. I try to follow the facts, wherever they lead or we won't learn the truth. According to what I am hearing about this, the Patriot Act will keep the video from public consumption. Let's hope not.

originally posted by: Justoneman
According to what I am hearing about this, the Patriot Act will keep the video from public consumption. Let's hope not.

It is incredible how the Patriot Act was signed into law within weeks of the 9/11 “terror attacks” and without a full investigation into who actually perpetrated those events and who failed in defending the United States. I told people back then that this bill will be used against ordinary American people in the future more than any terrorist. Today we have foreign terrorism, but the future will be about 'domestic terrorism'. The people who the US federal government fear most and always have is the American citizens.

originally posted by: Debunkology

originally posted by: Justoneman
According to what I am hearing about this, the Patriot Act will keep the video from public consumption. Let's hope not.

It is incredible how the Patriot Act was signed into law within weeks of the 9/11 “terror attacks” and without a full investigation into who actually perpetrated those events and who failed in defending the United States. I told people back then that this bill will be used against ordinary American people in the future more than any terrorist. Today we have foreign terrorism, but the future will be about 'domestic terrorism'. The people who the US federal government fear most and always have is the American citizens.

Don't forget the anthrax attacks, which further accelerated the passage of the "Patriot Act". That's why kneejerk reactions suck so much; mistakes and scams usually aren't caught until after people calm down. And by then, it's usually too late to do anything about it.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: opethPA

Great, when are you posting the video to back up your claim since you were there or are you just jumping to conclusions because you dont trust the Govt?

Likewise.
It boils down to who do you trust.
The Federal government?
Not me my friend, not me.

As long as a Democrat is in charge, the government is good. As soon as a Republican gets back in, they'll be ranting about revolution again.

Actually the left doesn't really do that as much as the right does when the left is in power.

Actually it's more telling that many progressives are right here in this thread extolling the virtues of blasting these guys to kingdom come....but are consistently in every thread crying and moaning that it's "assassination" and "execution" and "an epidemic" every time a minority person gets shot for attacking someone.

Yes, that would be a good "actually".

I haven't seen any one in here "extolling the virtues of blasting these guys to kingdom come." In fact, progressives seem to just want these guys arrested. Hyperbole much?

Here ya go -

--It's way too late for that and all I can say is, they should have thought about that before they orchestrated this farce.
Now it's time to pay the piper!

--Then I guess we find out exactly what "or else" means!
And I'll just bet it doesn't mean victory for the protestors or any of their prospective supporters.

--Now these guys are just begging for trouble.
--If he's the first martyr for the revolution then the collective IQ of the human race just inched upwards a tad.
--You and your "patriot brethren" will never garner enough support to do accomplish anything other than getting yourselves killed.

--If it were'nt for that, I wouldn't even give them the chance to surrender. I'd just storm the place and take them out.
--patriot... eyes rolling.

Note the basic snarkiness and "hawhawhaw" feel, regarding the shooting

I eagerly await your response that is something like "b-b-b-but your words are different". I can just see that coming.

I'm not going to bother. If you can't tell how you are exaggerating things right now based on THOSE quotes, nothing I say will change your mind.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

Youre absolutely right, that we jump to conclusions, but can you blame anyone? How can we ever trust known liars, and believe the official stories, they give us??

It's easy if you don't spend your whole life paranoid of everything.

I think a lack of trust for infamous liars is just good common sense, not paranoia.

Hell, the government lies even when the truth would serve them.

Did you know the government has also been known to tell the truth too?

No.

Can you name and prove even one time when things have been legit across the board ?

Clearly you have never worked in government, or in any kind of business at all, NOONE knows the full extents of these stories, the system is NOT setup , to allow for it.

Your stance on the world is laughably ignorant, and deserves a very large W T H !!!!

So in conclusion, you DON'T know that the government tells the truth sometimes? Gotcha.

a reply to: Willtell

Yes, the exact same deceived public.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
As the President, Obama has to approve of any moves of his Agents.

Do you really think Obama micromanages the FBI, approving what every single agent does?

He doesn't manage every agent, but he is briefed on the rules of engagement and what will happen in all likely scenarios.

If there are conditions which allow shooting, he knows about it.

Just like in the ME, where Obama has made it so that there will be NO shooting without several layers of review after Americans have been shot.

My guess would be that he's allowed "shoot quickly and often" conditions if the opportunity arises, for these "gun-toting bible-thumping mentally-ill-veterans constitution-radicals".

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: opethPA

Great, when are you posting the video to back up your claim since you were there or are you just jumping to conclusions because you dont trust the Govt?

Likewise.
It boils down to who do you trust.
The Federal government?
Not me my friend, not me.

As long as a Democrat is in charge, the government is good. As soon as a Republican gets back in, they'll be ranting about revolution again.

Actually the left doesn't really do that as much as the right does when the left is in power.

Actually it's more telling that many progressives are right here in this thread extolling the virtues of blasting these guys to kingdom come....but are consistently in every thread crying and moaning that it's "assassination" and "execution" and "an epidemic" every time a minority person gets shot for attacking someone.

Yes, that would be a good "actually".

I haven't seen any one in here "extolling the virtues of blasting these guys to kingdom come." In fact, progressives seem to just want these guys arrested. Hyperbole much?

Here ya go -

--It's way too late for that and all I can say is, they should have thought about that before they orchestrated this farce.
Now it's time to pay the piper!

--Then I guess we find out exactly what "or else" means!
And I'll just bet it doesn't mean victory for the protestors or any of their prospective supporters.

--Now these guys are just begging for trouble.
--If he's the first martyr for the revolution then the collective IQ of the human race just inched upwards a tad.
--You and your "patriot brethren" will never garner enough support to do accomplish anything other than getting yourselves killed.

--If it were'nt for that, I wouldn't even give them the chance to surrender. I'd just storm the place and take them out.
--patriot... eyes rolling.

Note the basic snarkiness and "hawhawhaw" feel, regarding the shooting

I eagerly await your response that is something like "b-b-b-but your words are different". I can just see that coming.

I'm not going to bother. If you can't tell how you are exaggerating things right now based on THOSE quotes, nothing I say will change your mind.

How sad, your buddy in "nuh-uh-never-happened", already angrily accepted being wrong. That stings, I'm sure.

I've admitted myself that none of these contain precisely My words.....yet they are sterling examples of snarky, nasty contentment, even gladness, about the shooting and hopefully more to come.

So yeah, that's what I was describing. So yeah, I was right, as proven by the examples I gave you.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

Youre absolutely right, that we jump to conclusions, but can you blame anyone? How can we ever trust known liars, and believe the official stories, they give us??

It's easy if you don't spend your whole life paranoid of everything.

I think a lack of trust for infamous liars is just good common sense, not paranoia.

Hell, the government lies even when the truth would serve them.

Did you know the government has also been known to tell the truth too?

No.

Can you name and prove even one time when things have been legit across the board ?

Clearly you have never worked in government, or in any kind of business at all, NOONE knows the full extents of these stories, the system is NOT setup , to allow for it.

Your stance on the world is laughably ignorant, and deserves a very large W T H !!!!

So in conclusion, you DON'T know that the government tells the truth sometimes? Gotcha.

I think that everybody that's breathing air has seen somebody from the govt, say something truthful about something.

Is there actually a discussion about somebody who thinks otherwise ? Or just more hyper-literal fixation on words, for some infathomable purpose ?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
As the President, Obama has to approve of any moves of his Agents.

Do you really think Obama micromanages the FBI, approving what every single agent does?

The answer is NO. I remember Waco and it was Bill Clintons Attourney General Janet Reno that gave the go authorization for that fiasco.

haha, Janet Reno, father of Chelsea.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Lmao the whole world is laughing at murican "patriots". Those idiots should all (minus children) be locked up for life. Americans didnt support tge bundy family before. What makes you think they will support them again in an armed revolution?

originally posted by: Debunkology
I told people back then that this bill will be used against ordinary American people in the future more than any terrorist. Today we have foreign terrorism, but the future will be about 'domestic terrorism'. The people who the US federal government fear most and always have is the American citizens.

Not much evidence of that going on now, however. If it was the government would have shut down these Mormon extremists a long time ago. They wouldn't have pussy footed around in Oregon for a month. They wouldn't be letting protestors walk away without being charge.

I miss the time when this site was regular crazy instead of political crazy.

When I saw this on the news I thought the same thing. This is a big deal, a lot bigger than most think.