New theory explains what caused the Big Bang & what existed before! (video)

Here is something to really ponder on, if God exists, does he have a naval? (as in belly button)

originally posted by: drivers1492
a reply to: mOjOm

why is there no before the big bang? I can honestly say I have no grasp of the math involved in the theory I have never been able to understand the stance of there being nothing before the event.

Because there was neither Time nor Space until the Big Bang meaning there is no "before" the Big Bang. According to that theory anyway. Meaning that the Big Bang was the start of Time.

originally posted by: Aliensun

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: woogleuk

If there is nothing you don't even have space.

Or time.
How would you measure it?

Exactly.

Since super-position exists, what if The Big Bang is in a super-position of the first moment of the past to exist and the last moment of the future, and all of time is contained between those two moments all captured Now within The Singularity.


If before The Big Bang, there was no time or space just a Singularity of all Energy/Light, then that Singulariy still exists now (since it was "before" time and therefore beyond it).

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: woogleuk

If there is nothing you don't even have space.

that is what is known as an absolute vacuum. an absolute vacuum can be found inside the Sun. the plasma around it has hit essentially the event horizon and is being pulled into the vacuum but can't actually get inside the vacuum because then it wouldn't be an absolute vacuum. space with no volume is an absolute vacuum.

originally posted by: pikestaff
Here is something to really ponder on, if God exists, does he have a naval? (as in belly button)

do you mean God as in the people who created us or the one and only GOD who is not even a who or a what or even a one, but the source of all creation?

I remember as a young girl, trying to grasp the concepts of "eternity"; "nothingness", and "infinity".

"Nothingness" was the one I struggled with most, and I remember becoming so frustrated because I was unable to do it.

I remember in girl scouts lying under the stars with my friends and trying so hard to figure it out. lol. We wondered what was at the 'edge' of the universe. Somebody suggested a brick wall, to which I asked, " But what's on the other side of the wall?

The really sad part is that I am still stuck there. I still can't do it. It's like my thought processes and understanding go as far as they can, and then boom! "nothingness". lol.

Many humans like things that go bang, the bigger the more impressive. My theory is that we are the result of a really big guy with some kind of a bomb that he set off.

Prove me wrong from this little dot in the middle in a bunch of fragments of the explosion.

Two branes touch, Universes are created. No gods required.

a reply to: alientransfer

What an exercise in futility. Like ants contemplating how and why the "dark things" (boots) keep falling on them.

originally posted by: bottleslingguy

that is what is known as an absolute vacuum. an absolute vacuum can be found inside the Sun. the plasma around it has hit essentially the event horizon and is being pulled into the vacuum but can't actually get inside the vacuum because then it wouldn't be an absolute vacuum. space with no volume is an absolute vacuum.

So you're saying an "Absolute Vacuum" which is a "Space with no Volume" is the same as Nothing?? Not sure if I agree or not but perhaps. What is a "Space with no Volume"??? If it has no Volume what does it have that makes it a space??? Does it have an Area??? Because if it has anything measurable at all or any measurable anything then it can't be nothing. Not a philosophical nothing anyway.

I got that from this guy but it sounds right

www.forbes.com...


a reply to: mOjOm

originally posted by: alientransfer
His theory is that there is a time paradox

A paradox means an impossibility, an error!
If the notion of 'time travel', for instance, is thoroughly critically examined, every avenue of examination results, inevitable, in paradox!
That means that 'time travel' is not possible.
When the notion of 'time' itself is so examined, again, paradox results.
'Time' is imaginary, like the 'motion' that it 'explains'.

The 'Big Bang' is not about 'matter', it is about a Singularity, completely 'timeless', that we know as existence!
Existence is a momentary Knowing of That Which Is, One Omni- 'Self!'!
Like the light bulb that goes on over the cartoon character's head when he 'gets it', so is all existence, ever, one 'Big Bang' of Self Knowledge!

"Reality is a synchrony of moments!"

this post stopped cause everyones minds just exploded,thank you and goodnight.

a reply to: Phage

Don't forget the neutrons and electrons.

originally posted by: woogleuk
I still can't get my head round nothing and forever.

In my mind there has to be something to create something, if there is nothing then something can't exist.....so even if there was just empty space to begin with, where did that empty space come from? There can't have just been nothing.

When did time begin (not time as in the man made concept of measurement)? What was there to create time?

It's stuff like this that makes me believe in God...or at least a creator....but then who created the creator, surely they weren't around forever as everything has a beginning right?

AAAARRRRGGHHHHH!

lol

My theory is that IF there is a creator he created himself... or he always was, in other words eternal, so he had no need to create himself.

Maybe the whole existing forever thing is what the God concept is all about and something we mortals just can't understand.

And just to throw a wrench in it all... what if there's more than one god?

a reply to: Topato

If "god" is just a word meant to be interchangeable with 'eternity' then I'm comfortable using the term. I don't believe in any religious gods but I do think there is an eternal component to existence.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Phage

Exactly. So there was never Not a Universe and never a Non-Time.

Yes... but people can't comprehend that. They always want something to come from something else.

The idea of "gods" and what not, gave people that fix point to focus on, when instead the fact is, there has always been something, just in different states, moving towards the opposite state.

I wish I could draw it, but in words;

- Imagine a vertical line..... from that line, two bubbles grow from each side and expand to X in size. We can call the bubble on the left side for A and the bubble on the right side for B.
Once A and B are expanded as much as they can, they revert back on themselves, but instead of disappearing, they switch sides and now A is growin out of the right side and B from the left side.

Now here's the tricky part.

Instead of a line, think of it as a point, and the bubbles as spheres.
As the sphere reverts, it goes inwards and creates a Big Bang on the "opposite" side. Just like the opposite side right now has experinced a crunch to facilitate the big bang still ongoing here.


As always.... I end up sitting here thinking, why the hell do I bother working with this crap. With such short time as a human being in comparison to how long "man" has been around, and how old the universe is, why waste time slaving through life instead of just noticing it and playing with it.

originally posted by: arpgme
Since super-position exists, what if The Big Bang is in a super-position of the first moment of the past to exist and the last moment of the future, and all of time is contained between those two moments all captured Now within The Singularity.


If before The Big Bang, there was no time or space just a Singularity of all Energy/Light, then that Singulariy still exists now (since it was "before" time and therefore beyond it).

Yes it does, how ever we experience it differently that how anyone on the other side would.

I see the singularity as a bolt with a balloon strapped around it's sides.
You can make it expand to one side, or you can press the balloon through the bolt and expand it to the other side.

This is an infinitely occuring event.

It is interesting that everyone from Theists to Atheists basically present a time paradox of some sort. It's like everyone knows that it is a requirement for existence.