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The Latest Democratic Party Debate-------A Lose Lose situation

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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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Unfortunately for America, the Democratic Party currently offers precious little from which to choose among their candidates for President of the United States.

Hillary Clinton has already demonstrated that she is untrustworthy given her use of a private e-mail server in violation of National Security Standards, and her gross mishandling of the Benghazy, Libya terrorist attack that cost an American ambassador and three others their lives. This record does not bode well for someone seeking the highest office in our land!

Her administration as president would simply be to continue the failed policies of President Obama for another four years which has been clearly demonstrated by her strong influence on many of his decisions while she was Secretary of State, and her active participation in those decisions.

The only other candidate among the Democrats with any real chance to be nominated for President is Bernie Sanders, an admitted socialist, who is significantly to the left of Mrs. Clinton on the political spectrum.

Our forefathers promised our immigrants, past, present, and future, the dream of an America as the land of opportunity for those willing to work hard without the burden of restrictions arising from modest roots. This is a dream that must be preserved because it is what America is and always has been all about.

Income redistribution combined with excessive taxation and over regulation of small businesses and corporations will only result in greater unemployment, lower salaries, and more economic misery for most of us when those who do the hiring have to cut back on a large scale in order to be able to make ends meet. In turn, there will then be an even greater downturn on Wall Street as stocks plunge in the face of lower corporate earnings and increased failures of small independent businesses.

Socialism simply does not and cannot work in a country, such as our own, which is premised on incentive and opportunity. It will, perhaps, find more acceptance in other countries like those in Western Europe such as Great Britain and France, but not here in America!

The choice we seem to have from the most recent Democratic Party debate is therefore nothing less than a "Lose-Lose" situation for our country. The American people deserve much more than that from one of our two major political parties!!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960
Neither party has much to offer. It amuses me that people keep voting for people from either party (not that I believe voting matters) thinking that the next one will be the one to pull the country out of the rut it's in, when each person that gets in office digs us deeper into the hole no matter what party they're from. Repeating an action over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of insanity and that more than defines our political process. Unfortunately, no third party candidate will ever be invited to attend the debates, since the organization that hosts them is controlled by both the republican and democratic parties. In short, we're screwed either way we go. I'd also like to add that choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

After reading your thread, I doubt that the left could field someone that you would approve of. You are basically saying, "The Democratic choices for President aren't good because they aren't conservative." Well duh.

PS: Socialism already works in our country. It's been working in our country since the 30's.
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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960



Socialism simply does not and cannot work in a country, such as our own, which is premised on incentive and opportunity.


Socialism is an integral part of what made this country great.

When war rears it's ugly head, socialism produces the world's greatest military. When crimes are committed on the streets, socialism produces men and women that patrol the streets. When hunger afflicts the poor or disaster destroys entire towns, socialism shows up with food and relief.

America is not only great because you can pull-up your bootstraps and make something of yourself. It is also great because it injected just enough socialism in to it to ensure we are safe from foreign and domestic dangers, that we can get a little help when we have to choose between bills and food for our families and we can get some help if a tornado destroys our homes.

Vote for whomever you wish, but without socialism many Americans would have starved to death and we may be speaking a different language after our country was taken over by foreign invaders.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Skid Mark

I tend to agree with you. When the available choices are bad, neither of the above is the correct choice.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Interesting that you would conclude that there would be no other candidate for the democrats that I might like. I'm neither a democrat or a conservative. I'm an independent moderate. Just so you'll know!
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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

Uh huh. I believe you.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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Is it too late for additional Democratic candidates to apply and be on the ballot? I always thought Biden and/or someone else would jump in the race.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: introvert

I have a very different perception of America than you do. Our forefathers intended a Land Of Opportunity. Socialism destroys individual initiative and stifles ingenuity. It punishes success and takes away incentive. That's not the kind of nation we are or the kind we wish to be.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: introvert



Vote for whomever you wish, but without socialism many Americans would have starved to death and we may be speaking a different language after our country was taken over by foreign invaders.

That already happened.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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I'm an independent moderate. Just so you'll know!


You keep saying that, but yet every post flies in the face of that.



Socialism destroys individual initiative and stifles ingenuity.


Based on what?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Skid Mark

I choose hope over despair, and I endorse the looking at America through a positive lens rather than a negative one!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

You're an independent moderate? You're as much an independent moderate as I am a hardcore conservative. Give me a break dude.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I like to think positively so I choose to believe that you believe me!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: Blazemore2000

You're entitled to think as you please. That's what America is all about, Dude!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

If you choose tunnel vision over reality, that's your privilege. But it must be a hard way to go. Open your mind a bit and you'll surprise yourself!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

Since I don't agree with you my mind is closed?

I just asked what you were basing your statement off of.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: jjkenobi

I'd love to see some else jump into the race. It's not too late yet.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

If you keep asking the same question, Sremmos80, you're going to continue to get the same answer.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

Yes, I am learning that answer is nothing.

But yet you keep talking about how you want discussions.



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