NEWS: 10 Young Students Strip-Searched in Texas

Just checking out their website:



Some of these people must be those involved.

I don't know what to think about charter schools. I've heard they get good results, but then again I've heard of occasions where they cheat to get said results.

www.mainlandprep.org

Now look at that picture, home many of these children would feel suffiently empowered to say no, you cannot strip me and inspect my body? Its just so over the top, I hope the parents do sue the district for this outrageous behavior. The cops defending this action should also be named as well.

Since WHEN ARE TEACHERS - OR ANY SCHOOL EMPLOYEES ALLOWED TO EVEN TOUCH A CHILD?

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There ar elaws to prevent this? ARE we suddenly ( as a society) just asking as we want to and disregarding the LAWS THAT PROTECT US & OUR CHILDREN???

I'm suprised that no one mentioned this yet, but:

What the hell does strip-searching kids for 10 dollars prove, anyways? A 10 dollar bill is a pretty common item for a 10-12 year old to have on his or her person. Would possession of a 10 dollar bill by any of these kids make them guilty of theft? From where I'm standing, this whole search was pointless.

Zip

...I can't help but laugh at this.

The company I work for [point out I'm 19] can't even search me, they have to wait for the Police to arrive and even then the Police have to conduct search "strip" searches in Private at a Police Station following the written procedure. Which has to be stated to the responsible adult, if a minor as well as the minor.

In the U.K. the Law Lords would have a field day with these Police Officers, remember guys you don't assume guilt in a legal system. That is for a Judge/Jury to decide and no Lay Person [teacher] has the right to strip a child, even if they think they are carrying guns, drugs or money. The Police should have conducted it in Private with the Guardian there and in this instance the Guardian could have not been a teacher involved. The Parents should have been instantly contacted, prior to the searching as well.

The real question is: Why is this on the increase in the United State's? Drugs case in Florida, Middle of Last year, several cases of children being handcuffed/tazers and now this...

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by IBM
Well the Police have their reasons. They followed what was in thier best judgement the correct course of action. What if one of the demons had a weapon? The police were properly checking in order to be prepared.

Um did you read th article? The cops did not search the students, the teachers did.

Yes the teachers did do that and you have to wonder WHAT THE HELL they were thinking. Since it was in Texas all the teacher if found guilty are going to have to register as S.Offenders 10yrs. for each child searched. Plan and simple.

I agree, tex. If you coerce a minor into taking their clothes off, you are a sex offender. Step rightup, perves. Register and get the hell away from the school.

This is just wrong is so many ways. As someone mentioned, a 10 dollar bill is not a unique object and hardly against the law to possess. Secondly, these kids are not trying to board a plane with a bulge under their shirt. These children are intrusted to the state and these teachers represent the state's involvment in their education. No way this is legal or even close to being legal. You cannot strip search a child in a public school, I donlt care how full of yourself you are. Thats another example of the socialistic "village to raise a child" bullcrap that we are seeing from these jr prison camps that our hard eraned tax dollars fund. They are teaching them social issues instead of academics and now think they have the right to treat them as they would any other piece of state property.

This has to stop before this mentality has to be dealt with by citizen force because it will get bloody in a hurry. If that had been my kid, there would have already been a few self-righteous know-it-alls hooked up to feeding tubes. I'm all for punishment and making them behave but in a world of sexual predators, thats way out of bounds.

Totally agree...
this is pedophilia pure and simple...

giving a BS excuse of $10 might have fooled some of the witnessing teachers, but it was just a pervy action by the others...

I just hope they can separate the intigators for this controversial action from the ones that thought they were just the required "witnesses"

no reason to ruin the innocent teachers lives, just the principals and other instigators...

Originally posted by astrocreep
Thats another example of the socialistic "village to raise a child" bullcrap that we are seeing from these jr prison camps that our hard eraned tax dollars fund.

Yes, clearly it is the socialists fault. It is them who promote such ideas, not in any books but because you say so.

Stop throwing Political Theories about, when there is no need for them especailly when this behaviour is actually more advocated by New Right Realists. The only thing they do is criticise Socialism...In fact, what is happening now is known as the "Re-Introduction of Little Adulthood", which of course existed in the 1800's and prior. [Little Adults.]

It would appear that this will all be determined to be right or wrong once the laws of Texas on the subject are looked at.

From what I can find and I have found several, in some areas it is legal and in others it is not.

Strip-Searching Schoolchildren Okay, Court Rules


Now on the other hand in Wisconsin it is prohibited by law

School districts’ right to conduct searches in public schools

It is important to note that Wisconsin Statute § 948.50 makes it a crime (Class B Misdemeanor) for public, parochial and private school employees to conduct a strip search of any student.

No need to link to the others since just one example for each way is all that is needed to prove the point.

So that leaves the final question? What does texas law permit?

The Sixth Circuit cases involving student strip searches also do not clearly establish the unconstitutionality of the searches in the instant case. Indeed, in Williams, 936 F.2d 881, and Tarter v. Raybuck, 742 F.2d 977 (6th Cir. 1984), strip searches of students were found to be reasonable. Although the officials in each of those cases possessed individualized suspicion as to the particular student searched, the cases do not clearly state that such individualized suspicion is absolutely necessary to justify such a search. And while one district court case from this circuit, Cales v. Howell Public Schools, 635 F. Supp. 454(E.D. Mich. 1985), found a strip search of a student not to be reasonable, the holding of the district court was that, although the school officials did have reasonable suspicion to suspect the particular student of violating some school rule, it did not have reason to suspect that the student was violating the rule against drug usage, the actual object of the search. While the principle of Cales could be argued to be analogous to a group search, the analogy is not so obvious as to establish clearly the unreasonableness of the group searches in this case. The Sixth Circuit cases thus simply do not "truly compel" the conclusion that the searches in this case were not reasonable.


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in the above they ruled one case it was allowable in another it was not and declared unconstitutional. So you are back too square one


It would appear there is no truly defined law at this time, so they may or may not win depending on the court. I would venture to guess since in this case it is only over ten dollars they will lean towards it being an illegal search since the sum is so little.

One also has to remember we are dealing with Texas here and in Texas a husband could at one time legally kill his wife if he caught her in bed with another man and get away with it

Edited to correct an error on my part I was not aware the law had been changed, but I will add this in further comment contrary to Zip all their laws are not modern.


Stupid texas laws

Now back to topic

[edit on 1/12/2006 by shots]

Ya, know...
that article makes a good point...

If there was strong suspicion of one student, then it changes things...

but in this case, they didn't have a clue, and immediatley went to stripping kids...

Originally posted by shots
One also has to remember we are dealing with Texas here and in Texas a husband can legally kill his wife if he cathes her in bed with another man and get away with it

That has not been considered "justifiable homicide" since the 1970s (in ANY state). Heat-of-passion cases occur everywhere in America. In most cases, prosecutors will allow defendants to plead guilty to manslaughter charges, knowing that juries have difficulty convicting people of murder in heat-of-passion homicide cases. Texas is a fine state with modern laws and I take offense to your comment.

Zip

I do agree that SOME not all laws here in texas are fubar.

Heck the state had to vote twice on what a conceptual marriage is to make sure they got it right.

sad ...so sad... and I live in the state!