I'm pro Trump and pro Wall...

a reply to: reldra

Trump isn't president. He doesn't need to sound 'Presidential'. He needs to sound tired of the perpetual bull out of D.C..

He does.

a reply to: onequestion

Sanders has done things and consistently fought for the people with an amazing track record. If he then turns around and stops fighting for us when he gets the presidency and proves to despite his unique track record and integrity be in the end the same as every other politician, then I will truly give up on anything less than revolution. He's the first politician to truly give me hope and a desire to vote cause he's the only one yet to have these very important traits.

Trump, however, represents the very embodiment of the oligarchy in a man. He's part of the machine that's destroyed and enslaved us all. If Sanders doesn't get the nod, I'll vote for Trump simply because I'm done and want to speed up the inevitable collapse so we can start all over sooner.

a reply to: nwtrucker

That's fine, the point was more about the immigration issue has been even since the days of Ronnie and isn't anything new.

a reply to: Staroth
Why else? How about the suspicion that he began hoping to divide the GOP so his paid off pal Hillary gets elected, unfortunately, he has to find a way to ensure Bernie Sanders is not elected or else his gamble is screwed?

originally posted by: Staroth
a reply to: onequestion

I like Trump and will be voting for him!
*He's not a career politician (so he won't ALWAYS tell you what you what to hear).
*He doesn't need money, so he can't be bought.
*He definitely doesn't need a job, especially one of the hardest jobs in the world.
*He doesn't hide or sugar coat what he's really thinking.
*He doesn't seem to have a hidden agenda.
*He's giving a voice to the people. (what most of us are really thinking but can't say it or we're called racist or we're not being politically correct)
*He's straight forward - if you come at him, he will come back at you x2. (with balls the size of TX)
So what's left? Why else would he run for the job?
Maybe to make America great again - like it use to be?

-Trump has made an entire career out of saying outrageous things and being loud.
-No matter how much money one has, they can be bought.
-Being a massive insulting blowhard is not a good character quality.
-He is giving a voice to the worst of us.
-If you come at him, he will come back with a ridiculous sttement, often insulting and not logical.
-I am not sure how any of these things would make America better.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: reldra

Trump isn't president. He doesn't need to sound 'Presidential'. He needs to sound tired of the perpetual bull out of D.C..

He does.

If he wants to be President, there are some qualifications. I thinks he lacks all of them.

ALL of us are tired of BS politics, doesn't make ALL of us qualified to be President.

a reply to: onequestion

So you avoid my questions but then ask me some?

Answer mine and then I'll answer yours.

You admit that he doesn't even practice what he preaches, he outsources jobs and then hires immigrants to do his work here.
He wants to build a wall, you don't want a wall.
You know that the people hiring the immigrants is big issue but Trump has been silent on that.
WHY do you think he is the answer.

How the hell do you think he lost and made billions?

By going bankrupt four times and screwing over other people?
Guess what, you can't do that as president. It is NOT a business and I don't want it ran like one.
Oh and by starting out with a 'small' million dollar loan from his father.

Also threatening to break trade deals is not leverage, he doesn't have the authority to do that.

a reply to: Staroth

*He's not a career politician (so he won't ALWAYS tell you what you what to hear).

He has been pandering non stop...
He is a salesman, you think they don't know how to tell you what you want to hear??

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: Staroth
Why else? How about the suspicion that he began hoping to divide the GOP so his paid off pal Hillary gets elected, unfortunately, he has to find a way to ensure Bernie Sanders is not elected or else his gamble is screwed?

The GOP was divided long before Trump ever came on the scene and I'm sure you know it. If anything, it's hasn't been this united as Gowdy has endorsed the heir apparent of the Establishment Republicans, Rubio.

Not Cruz, RUBIO. A tea party leader endorsing an Establishment Jeb Bush alternate!!

To hell with the Dems, The Republican Establishment and, now, the Tea Party.

Trump.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Really? Sanders and your ilk haven't been pandering? Try to have SOME balance in your posts. You'd have more credibility if you did.

a reply to: reldra

Of course you do. Then don't vote for him. Heck, it's unlikely he even gets nominated, so why are you even concerned about it?

I see him as qualified any running and less bought than the rest.

I will vote for him if in the unlikely event he wins the nomination.

a reply to: Puppylove

I'm sure the greedy Union sponsor bills through congress.

In fact I want to look into that.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Never said he wasn't, what I was saying wasn't about Sanders.

And I don't need your approval of my credibility.

Shame

Thought you were smarter than that...

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Puppylove

I'm sure the greedy Union sponsor bills through congress.

In fact I want to look into that.

You won't have to strain yourself very much to find what you are lookin for!

Honestly, I think the unions were the strongest and actually represented the workers the most when the MOB ran them! Now they are nothing more than a political organization.

originally posted by: muse7
Shame

One has to be smarter to recognize smarter, apparently.

originally posted by: muse7
Shame

Thought you were smarter than that...

Please counter my points.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: Staroth
Why else? How about the suspicion that he began hoping to divide the GOP so his paid off pal Hillary gets elected, unfortunately, he has to find a way to ensure Bernie Sanders is not elected or else his gamble is screwed?

The GOP was divided long before Trump ever came on the scene and I'm sure you know it. If anything, it's hasn't been this united as Gowdy has endorsed the heir apparent of the Establishment Republicans, Rubio.

Not Cruz, RUBIO. A tea party leader endorsing an Establishment Jeb Bush alternate!!

To hell with the Dems, The Republican Establishment and, now, the Tea Party.

Trump.

You type trump as if it is the answer to ending BS politics. Trump is the answer to nothing. Though some seem to keep pushing him as a political outsider that will fix everything via force of will.

Reminds me of Obama, a little bit. People thought he could do a lot more than he could. He won twice, people liked his policies and his ideas to 'make america great again'. Make some changes, have some hope. However, he wasn;t allowed to do almost anything.

Obama is a smart guy, probably too intellectual in comparison to what we were sold. People that voted for Obama thought he could make good changes. He tried. he actually accomplished quite a bit in the face of the tea party and constant blocking of ANYTHING from Republicans.

So, we come to a place where some people think trump can make many changes. How? Does he plan to do this by yelling? By saying America Great Again over and over? By saying 'you're fired!'? By being a bull in a china shop in regard to foreign policy? He doesn't even have detailed plans, he just mainly spouts inanities. Trump can't just make changes by force of will either.

Trump will also make us the laughing stock of the entire world, for real.

a reply to: Sremmos80

I wasn't referring to me, that would be beyond your abilities.

i share your reasoning for supporting trump but for me support is even a strong word. I dont vote nor do i plan on even registering to do so, but im gonna have a good ol ginormous laugh if trump turns out to be a troll in the sense that everything hes said on the campaign trail is BS just to get votes and PR and then he turns around and actually does a good job. Hell even if he isnt BSing about the things he talks about and still does a good job ill laugh. Hes so different, thats why im more open to him being president regardless of all the negative stuff he has said. just my 2 cents and like others have said kudos for having the balls to say it even though you shouldnt have to have balls to support something lol.