The Chiptole E-coli Outbreak Accident or Dry Run?

Over the years I have been watching different Bacterial Outbreaks and figured out many of them are attributed to the over use of bacterial components in Soil conditioners, used in both natural and chemical fertilizes.

However, the Chiptole event has left me stumped as they have not been able to tie it to any single restaurant or food manufacturer/supplier for the company. The CDC is now performing a DNA testing in hopes to identify the origin of the E-coli.

It occurred to me the other day while researching jobs held by foreign workers in the US. it seems that 12% of the 23 million jobs held in the US by foreign workers is in the hospitality field, this field includes Restaurants. And another 12% are in manufacturing this includes a large amount of food manufacturing in the US.

Now lets say an enemy wants to use a bio weapon and get around the protections that are already in place. We are profiling people in a general way if they were to try and use a conventional weapon. But what if the weapon in unconventional like introducing the biological agent into our food supply?

Many of the foreign HB2 visa workers, refugees and illegals coming into the United States almost one fourth of them will takes jobs in the food industry. There they have the potential to introduce into our food killer bacterial agents like E-coli, Anthrax and other types of Bacterial agents they could make in their own home and then take to work to contaminate our food supply.

The more I look at what happened to Chiptole the more I ask was it just an accident or was it a dry run for a bigger plan?

Not that it has to be foreign it could also be someone who hates Chiptole and wanted to put them out of business or some other reason.

What about other products other than food such as deodorants, hair spray, skin creams?

I know it sound like the original Batman Movie with Keaton and Nicholas but in today's world instead of fantasy it could be a reality.

Will CDC tells us once they have the DNA results where this strain originated or will it not be able to tell.

JAT

a reply to: ChesterJohn

It occurred to me that it might be sabotage by an agent from big ag as punishment for their public rejection of GMO ingredients in their menu. It happened fairly soon after their announcement that they would not carry GMO ingredients any longer.

That is an interesting hypothesis and certainly not one I had considered. Think I may be a little more cynical than you.

Considering they are two totally different types of e coli and that Chipotle announced going gmo free, it seems more likely a plant by bio engineering corporation to discredit non gmo foods. Really odd it is only happening to Chipotle. Also odd CDC is at a loss to explain. So geo engineered organism to protect their GE food. Who better able and with motive to do this.

Could be totally wrong but, who benefits?

Two words: Corporate sabotage.

The same thing is happening with Blue Bell ice cream.

I think you are reading to much into it... but...

I had a gf who was a store mgr. at a high end burger joint in a Las Vegas casino. The first time she brought me home a burger, I flipped open the Styrofoam box and on top of my food was ketchup packets.

Maybe some of you get it right away, she didn't.

It is possible though. She told me of one employee that offered to work under another E-verified name.

I think the Chipolte thing is just people not washing correctly and poor food standards from corporate

a reply to: tinner07

I don't get the kechup packets reference?


On-topic, I do think this is corporate sabotage. 0 cases prior to Chipotle's "no GMO" rule, and since enacting it they have had many cases. Makes me go "hmm"

originally posted by: ChesterJohn

Now lets say an enemy wants to use a bio weapon and get around the protections that are already in place. We are profiling people in a general way if they were to try and use a conventional weapon. But what if the weapon in unconventional like introducing the biological agent into our food supply?

Very very possible.

In fact, very probable.

The best sneak attacks come from the least suspected and most trusted places.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: tinner07

I don't get the kechup packets reference?


ok.... everything in the store food wise is clean... I asked her where they keep the ketchup packets. Under a table in a box, collecting dust and evrything else. No gloves required to reach into that box. that packet tossed onto my food.

She was shocked when I mentioned it and that changed.

a reply to: FamCore

the ketchup packets aren't clean, yet tossed on top of my food.....pretty sure that changed that day.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: tinner07

I don't get the kechup packets reference?


On-topic, I do think this is corporate sabotage. 0 cases prior to Chipotle's "no GMO" rule, and since enacting it they have had many cases. Makes me go "hmm"

Maybe the factory/workers where the ketchup packets were made was dirty. Or the factory that made the box that the packets were shipped in. Or the person who picked up the packets and put it on the clean burger.

Like maybe its not the food from Chipotle but maybe the silverware or paper they wrap the food in or the trays/baskets they serve it in. The list of how and where things could get tainted is vast.

a reply to: tinner07

My pet peeve is when a fast food worker handles money AND then touches the food.

Did you know that a long time ago, you could not work in the food industry without several health tests administered by the Health Department. You had to be tested for TB and venereal diseases before you could get a job even as a waiter. I don't think that applies today.

I'm with others on the Chipotle thing....corporate sabotage. My heart goes out to the new franchisees that are now hurting because of Chipotle's reputation.

a reply to: ZenTam

That is what I am saying exactly.... The food itself is immaculate. the ketchup packets, not so much.,.....and even her, an employee saying he could be E verified to work another shift... shows illegals know how to run the system,

a reply to: queenofswords

When the silverware is on the table and the waitress places the menu on top of the silverware....
I guess I am germaphobic

Hey guys it seems to be getting off topic. This is not about restraint hygiene but the possibility of some of these foreigners coming here and using food manufacturing or food service jobs as a way to kill us.

From what I have heard, the type of ecoli found in the Chipotle restaurants is not a random one. It is a strand that is grown in a LAB. My source is legit, if you would like info on my source private msg me, but I cannot say on a public forum as I was asked not to.

a reply to: neomaximus10

I've been wondering why since November the CDC has not released info on the DNA strain.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

I have wondered that as well. Are they stalling or stumped? Neither scenario is good since if they are stumped they are incompetent, and if stalling they have agents of big ag corporatist working for them in key places.

One conspiracy I saw somewhere said something about McDonald's trying to get back at Chipotle, I think they were at one time owned by McDonald's or whatever owns McDonald's or something.

There are so many variables that I'm not surprised it hasn't been nailed down yet.

McDonald's was a major contributor to Chipotle's success.

The burger chain made an investment in Chipotle in 1998 that helped it grow from 14 locations to nearly 500 within seven years. By 2005, McDonald's had a 90% stake in Chipotle's business.

But one year later, McDonald's divested its stake and parted ways with the fledgling burrito chain.

After McDonald's stopped backing them, this happened:

Chipotle's same-store sales grew more than 16% in 2014, while McDonald's declined 1% during the same period.

Market share snarfing.

McDonald's is trying to become something that it's not, Chipotle and other places like it are continuing to steal away the fast food market. McDonald's is getting more and more expensive, and the quality (or lack thereof) remains the same. I'd rather pay a few bucks more and get something that tastes better.

It's corporate espionage!!!

I don't really believe it's anything other than a breakdown in a huge machine, but it's fun to speculate and cook up (sorry) wild conspiracy theories. It was Ronald McDonald, in the Chipotle kitchen with the vial of lab created e-coli.

Not making light of people that got e-coli, making light of conspiracy theories. You never know though, corporate espionage is a real thing.

Oh crap, I just read this in Washington and Oregon. Well, glad I went on a diet and am no longer eating fast food.

ETA: Is Chipotle good? I think I've eaten there once, and I'm not sure if it wasn't another similar place.

reality check - chipolte has been here before :

source

TL : DR - summation

2008 , chipolte outlets in 6 states served contaminated lettuce leading to an e-coli outbreak .

sound familiar ????

a reply to: machineintelligence

neomax, seems to know that it is a lab cultured DNA. I await more info and links