Rumors Are Flying That We Finally Found Gravitational Waves

a reply to: grey580

Time to invest in the hoverboard?

a reply to: Phage

Phage you rock.

My feeling on it was what you mentioned, that gravitational waves had an inverse relationship to wavelength as compared to electromagnetic and its relationship to wavelength.

As for the distance and its effect on the waves, i agree, however i think we would need to factor in dark energy and its effects on these waves, possibly.

Thanks again for addressing my inquiries.

a reply to: OneGoal

It could be that dark matter would act like the fixed position rocks in a stream and disturb the wave as it passes. If so, then measuring gravitational waves might be a way to directly detect dark matter as well.

A guy I sat next to on a long haul flight in the US many years ago, was talking to me about gravitational waves. He claimed he has done work for (the old cliche) NASA in this field..
To cut along story short, he belived we can harness energy from them.. he belived ripples in space time lose momentum and get smaller, we could harness energy from them if we catch them small enough and on a downward part of the wave..

I really don't know if this guy was telling the truth put thought I would put it out there anyway.. so please don't shoot the messenger.. I'm looking at you grumpy man with your arms crossed..

a reply to: Phage

What do you think they sound like, silent but deadly?

The mp3 clip is a mix-up of simulated gravitational waveforms expected from the merger of binary black hole and neutron star systems. The long, deep ones are the supermassive black-hole binaries that will be detected by LISA, if it ever flies. These have been scaled up in frequency to be represented as audible sounds. The short "chirps" are the final death-throes of stellar-mass black hole binary systems (i.e. two dead stars finally merging together).

Amazing. The sound of two black holes "boinking"...

I found this amusing as well,

The first LIGO observational campaign, which ended in 2010, turned up no firm evidence, although we were almost fooled by a fake signal deliberately planted by the LIGO Internal Affairs commission to keep scientists on their toes.

a reply to: grey580

Caltech must feel the heat from Flat Earth disclosures, including gravity being a freemason hoax on humanity.

Gravity Delusion

a reply to: grey580

YAYYYYY- Be idiots and weaponize some more stuff. Sooner we destroy this planet the better.

Remember the key term in the article , "Rumors". Never assume and remember the what that word does to u and me.
On a side note , is this the detector that was started in the mid to late 70s for that purpose ?
And could this mean gravity , like light , exists as a particle and a wave simultaneously ?

a reply to: Gothmog

On a side note , is this the detector that was started in the mid to late 70s for that purpose ?

No LIGO first became active in 2002.

How can they mesure gravity untill this?
and how can you use it to send a signle
Through a planet when it is generating gravity?

when they truly know what gravity IS.
they can use it to fly.
can you imagine flying and going to space
when you can stop the effect of gravity on you?
Very cheap space fly't.
just need to stop inertia next.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Gothmog

On a side note , is this the detector that was started in the mid to late 70s for that purpose ?

No LIGO first became active in 2002.

Thanks , I had looked for a moment for that information. I remember my Encyclopedia Britannica Science update had a large article in it about a research facility that had started up to detect gravity waves.

a reply to: Phage

Tesla invented AC power which is a "GOD", Einstein created words on paper. AC power is the reason you are alive and the reason you are responding to post's on the internet..which btw would not exist without Tesla's AC power.

AC generated power is the greatest invention ever, its greatly understated because he was not American and in his last days a pariah and his work's stolen at his death.

I totally understand the Power of Power as I am an Instrument/Electrical tech and it brings both life and if treated without respect it can bring death...hence my calling it a "GOD".

a reply to: mazzroth

Tesla invented AC power

False. Though he did use his engineering skills to produce very good motors and generators. He was one of several.
www.edisontechcenter.org...

AC generated power is the greatest invention ever, its greatly understated because he was not American and in his last days a pariah and his work's stolen at his death.

His last days were spent quite crazy. His work is in the museum in his home country.
www.tesla-museum.org...

But as I said, it doesn't make much sense to compare Tesla to Einstein. As yet, no one has managed to show Einstein wrong. On the other hand, Tesla was wrong about a lot of stuff. But not making electric motors, he was good at that.

a reply to: mazzroth

Wow, for someone professing to be an electrical technician, you should re-read your manuals.
Tesla was a great engineer who perfected the mechanisms for domestic AC power distribution, however he certainly did not invent AC, no more than Edison invented DC.

a reply to: grey580

Here is a good read: www.diva-portal.org...:140515/FULLTEXT01.pdf (sorry, link not working)

Titled, "Nonlinear Interaction and Propagation of Gravitational and Electromagnetic Waves in Plasmas"

In particular, Summary of Paper VI:

"Paper VI: Resonant interaction between gravitational waves, electromagnetic waves and plasma flows
It has been known since the 60s that gravitational waves and electro- magnetic waves can interact. In the presence of a background magnetic field, gravitational waves can be converted into electromagnetic waves and vice versa. This paper is an extension of these results, including the effect of the presence of a plasma. In section IV, it is shown that, provided the high frequency approximation is valid, the TT-gauge can be applied also to gravitational waves interacting with matter selfconsistently. This is a valu- able result that simplifies the later calculations. Since gravitational waves have a phase velocity approximately equal to the speed of light, coherent interaction only occurs if this is also true for the electromagnetic waves. For waves propagating perpendicular to the magnetic field, the interaction is diminished in strength by the presence of the plasma. Thus the main fo- cus in the paper is on interaction with circularly polarized electromagnetic waves propagating along the background magnetic and plasma flows. An evolution equation is derived for these electromagnetic waves (Eq. (48)), valid for arbitrarily large amplitudes and including the effect of gravita- tional waves. The resonant interaction is described by the wave interaction equations (72) and (73), which are shown to be energy conserving. The equations have exact solutions, e.g. Eq. (86)-(89).
The main result is that energy may be exchanged between the gravi- tational and electromagnetic waves and with the plasma flow. In partic- ular, it is shown that the plasma flow may be explosively unstable with respect to resonant gravitational-electromagnetic wave perturbations and, conversely, resonant gravitational and electromagnetic waves can produce plasma flows (described by Eq. (91))."

Seems they are looking to capture data moments after the "Big Bang". Also, transference of energy from gravitational waves, electromagnetic waves, and plasma. Waves of energy running like ribbons through space, and transferring that energy into plasma? Imagine tapping into that, for data messaging, universe mathematics/physics, and space exploration.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: grey580

What practical applications can be made out of this discover?

Other than, once again, showing that Einstein was right?
Gnarly barrels dude!

Meh, he is overated.

The real discoveries in science is happening on youtube but the establishment refuses to watch the videos.

Einstein couldn't get passed the law of physics,math and science , these guys on youtube don't let themselves be constraints by math ,science or physics.

a reply to: interupt42

I'm really not sure if you are sarcastic or serious?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: interupt42

I'm really not sure if you are sarcastic or serious?

Sadly that is a fair question to ask these days.

a reply to: mazzroth

as for Gravitational Waves they are faster than light which kills relativity theory.

No, they travel at the speed of light. As Phage suggests, gravitational waves are part of the General Theory of Relativity.

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a reply to: Gothmog

And could this mean gravity, like light, exists as a particle and a wave simultaneously?

It does indeed. The particle is known as the graviton.

Actually, everything exists as a particle and a wave simultaneously. Everything has a wavelength. Matter waves.

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: grey580

What practical applications can be made out of this discover?

Other than, once again, showing that Einstein was right?
Gnarly barrels dude!

Meh, he is overated.

The real discoveries in science is happening on youtube but the establishment refuses to watch the videos.

Einstein couldn't get passed the law of physics,math and science , these guys on youtube don't let themselves be constraints by math ,science or physics.

I wait with great anticipation for you to elaborate on who these "Wizards" on youtube are. For the moment I just assume that I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say.

Also, if "Einstein couldn't get passed the laws of physics, math and science", it's unfortunate that he didn't live to see Obama's administration. Obama could just sign an executive order, negating the need to pass "the laws of physics, math and science".

I just couldn't help myself. Somebody stop me...!
Oh...Wait...Did you mean "Past" and not "Passed"?
Nevermind...

Serious about these youtube wizards, though. Can you clarify?