Donald Trump calls Ted Cruz’s birth in Canada a ‘problem’

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Lefties made it an issue for McCain because he wasn't born in the US. That was quickly settled. Then they looked the other way when it was pointed out that Obama did not have two US parents.

So basically, anything that would be brought up about Cruz from the left would be a moot point after it was decided that McCain was eligible and then after 8 years of Obama.

Oh, and Trump's point was that it would be an issue if the left made it one, not because he thought it was himself.

a reply to: seeker1963

If Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton brought up Ted's citizenship

But they haven't brought it up as an issue have they?

You know who has? Donald Trump.

You know who took great issue with Obama's eligibility? Donald Trump.

Do you know who this thread is about? Donald Trump.

a reply to: ketsuko

Lefties made it an issue for McCain because he wasn't born in the US.

Which lefties made it an issue?

Who?

You and seeker seem to talk about 'lefties' making eligibility an issue but you can't seem to point out who these 'lefties' are?

Did Obama make McCains place of birth an issue?

Did Hillary Clinton?

Who?

So basically, anything that would be brought up about Cruz from the left would be a moot point after it was decided that McCain was eligible and then after 8 years of Obama.

I don't understand how it would be a moot?

For years we've been hearing from birthers, from the right, that Obama is not eligible, that he was born in Kenya, that he didn't prove or that or whatever. Here comes 2016, Canadian born Ted jumps in the race, and silence.

Silence.

It's magically not an issue anymore. Not to Trump either.

And then, conveniently, we have Teddy leading in Iowa, and wouldya know? Trump thinks Ted's eligibility is a 'problem'.

See where I'm going here? There's no consistency or honesty left in the conservative movement. It's all about who can smear who the most and facts be damned.

I'm still not seeing any evidence that Trump is using this against Cruz.

Can somebody please post the exact quotes?

Or better yet, an actual video.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Look, you are big on getting indignant on me not naming names, but you aren't doing it either.

a reply to: ketsuko

Which lefties are you talking about Ketsuko?

Who?

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: JohnthePhilistine

Are you saying Trump supporters don't care about who is eligible to be president? They never cared? I've been here for a long time. I've participated in my fair share of birther threads about Obama. Many members who questioned Obama's eligibility are now cheering on Trump and Cruz.

I don't need to prove it to you. The evidence is right in front of you. Of course you probably don't care.

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No, I'm saying that Trump has not questioned Cruz's eligibility to be president and that you are being dishonest.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Look, you are big on getting indignant on me not naming names, but you aren't doing it either.

John McCain's birthplace was a non issue. Other than a general discussion of the issue, I cannot recall it being a big issue for Lefties.

I'd like to see you back-up your statements, if you would be so inclined.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: JohnthePhilistine

You have yet to come across one Trump who has said Ted's birthplace is an issue, either.

Except for Trump himself.

www.usatoday.com...

Try and keep up....

Perhaps I could have stated my point a little better but, as the usatoday article makes clear, Trump did not question Cruz's nationality. As you have pointed out, you are much smarter than I am, so why do I have to explain the nuances of American English to you?

originally posted by: xuenchen
I'm still not seeing any evidence that Trump is using this against Cruz.

Can somebody please post the exact quotes?

Or better yet, an actual video.

www.cnn.com...

www.cbsnews.com...

www.cbsnews.com...

www.foxnews.com...

www.usatoday.com...

www.bbc.com...

I did some research on Google, and I found out that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen because his mother was a U.S. citizen and his father was a U.S. resident.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States *

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Natural Born Citizen

a reply to: DelMarvel



no quotes.

nice try though.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Look, you are big on getting indignant on me not naming names, but you aren't doing it either.

John McCain's birthplace was a non issue. Other than a general discussion of the issue, I cannot recall it being a big issue for Lefties.

I'd like to see you back-up your statements, if you would be so inclined.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were among those that supported allowing John McCain to run for President since he was born on a U.S. Military base in the Panama Canal Zone, and this was outside of the U.S.

originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Look, you are big on getting indignant on me not naming names, but you aren't doing it either.

John McCain's birthplace was a non issue. Other than a general discussion of the issue, I cannot recall it being a big issue for Lefties.

I'd like to see you back-up your statements, if you would be so inclined.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were among those that supported allowing John McCain to run for President since he was born on a U.S. Military base in the Panama Canal Zone, and this was outside of the U.S.

Exactly. John McCain was eligible for the office and it's a non-issue. I fail to see why it was even brought in to the discussion.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: DelMarvel

no quotes.

nice try though.

"Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: 'Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?' That'd be a big problem," Trump told the Washington Post in an interview on the subject of Cruz's birthplace. "It'd be a very precarious one for Republicans because he'd be running and the courts may take a long time to make a decision. You don't want to be running and have that kind of thing over your head."
"I'd hate to see something like that get in his way," Trump added. "But a lot of people are talking about it and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport."

www.cbsnews.com...

a reply to: darkbake

There was a lawyer on CNN that made a good point surrounding Ted's eligibility. Did Ted have to go through a naturalization process to become a US citizen? The answer is no. By virtue of his mother being a US citizen that made him a US citizen and a natural born citizen at that.

If it was revealed that Obama was indeed born in Kenya, he'd still be a natural born citizen by virtue of his mother.

But facts be damned hey? Apparently according to many on the right, not only do you have to be born in the US, but both parents have to be US citizens. How ridiculous is that?

a reply to: DelMarvel



Trump never says he's using that against Cruz.

He's warning about Democrats using it, and States challenging Cruz.

This is what is going to be the key factor on if Cruz is or is not eligible: His mother.

You see his father was a Cuban national who moved to Canada and became a citizen of Canada. Now the question that should be asked is this: Was his mother a citizen of Canada or not at the time of his birth. If she was, then technically Ted Cruz is not eligible to be President of the United States.

After all it was not until 2013 that he gave up his Canadian citizenship.

a reply to: xuenchen

Wait wait do you hear yourself trying to make excuses? Trump clearly says it's an 'issue' and a 'problem' where prior, he said there were no issues. He's making it an issue against Cruz. What part of this do you not understand?

Why are you in denial?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: DelMarvel

Trump never says he's using that against Cruz.

He's warning about Democrats using it, and States challenging Cruz.

"Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: 'Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?

That statement is not an attempt to use the issue against Cruz? He's saying Republicans have to evaluate whether dealing with the issue is worth the time and effort.

That statement benefits him more than the Democrats.