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originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: intrptr
Too bad everyone has pretty much written them off as idiots.
"Everyone" that watches TV news, maybe.
Imo, they are some of the last real Americans. People cry on the internet all day about this mis carriage of justice and that law breaking agency… but don't actually do anything about it.
originally posted by: Salander
"Terrorist" is the most abused word in the English language today.
First corrupt the language, as Orwell noted, and then the thought processes will be corrupted soon after. That's pretty much what's happening since 911
originally posted by: theySeeme
I'm just curious, these armed Oregon "protestors" are basically committing an act of terrorism and threatning the police with the use of violence while trespassing - can you imagine if these folks were black, mexican, indian or muslim? This would be labeled all kinds of things, but for some reason the media and everyone else looks at this as some kind of peaceful protest, even though the protesters are not only breaking the law, they are threatening the lives of law enforcement..
Nothing peaceful about this protest.
Definition of terrorism -
ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/Submit
noun
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
1: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
2: (at least one of these) Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
3: Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Making it personal and trying to pull me into a pissing contest doesn't work anymore.
And yes, TV has conditioned the most of the population to all think (a)like the gubment wants them to.
Trying to deny that is corny as the day is long.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: theySeeme
What you fail to notice in the legal definition is that the list of elements needing to happen in order for an act to be terrorism uses the conjunction "and," not "or."
In a court of law, this means that, per your quote from the FBI on domestic terrorism, these three characteristics MUST occur in order to be terrorism:
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
1: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
2: (at least one of these) Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
3: Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
My additions for clarification are in bold.
I don't see number one happening (yet)...unless you are going to try to tell me that taking over a very remote building is dangerous to human life. Until they start shooting, having guns is not a danger to human life.
They do meet numbers two (2[ii]) and three, though, so they're close.
But close doesn't count in a court of law. It is, however, apparently good enough for the court of public opinion, which seems to be court in which you (and others on here) are the sitting judge.
originally posted by: redoubt
a reply to: theySeeme
Why are the Oregon protesters not called terrorist?
How many people have they shot?
How many people have they beheaded?
How many people have they tossed from the top of tall buildings?
How many people have they, literally, crucified, set on fire and/or drawn and quartered?
Anyone can call them anything that makes them happy inside but... the bottom line is the bottom line. If one's definition of terrorism is to see them simply gather together, seize a remote piece of federal property in hopes of sending a message of disgust to those in the marbled halls of power then... well, have at it.
Have a nice day
So are you willing to admit to that obviousness or are you just going to pretend like Americans only watch pro-government media outlets all the time?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Krazysh0t
So are you willing to admit to that obviousness or are you just going to pretend like Americans only watch pro-government media outlets all the time?
99% of television programming is government indoctrination.
The propaganda dept. wouldn't have it any other way.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Krazysh0t
So are you willing to admit to that obviousness or are you just going to pretend like Americans only watch pro-government media outlets all the time?
99% of television programming is government indoctrination.
The propaganda dept. wouldn't have it any other way.
Got any proof for that statistic? Nah, I'm pretty sure you made that number up on the spot because it suits your narrative and as well you won't have to admit that your "true" americans could equally be being duped by propaganda on tv to be rebellious against the government.
originally posted by: redoubt
a reply to: theySeeme
Why are the Oregon protesters not called terrorist?
How many people have they shot?
How many people have they beheaded?
How many people have they tossed from the top of tall buildings?
How many people have they, literally, crucified, set on fire and/or drawn and quartered?
Anyone can call them anything that makes them happy inside but... the bottom line is the bottom line. If one's definition of terrorism is to see them simply gather together, seize a remote piece of federal property in hopes of sending a message of disgust to those in the marbled halls of power then... well, have at it.
Have a nice day
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Krazysh0t
So are you willing to admit to that obviousness or are you just going to pretend like Americans only watch pro-government media outlets all the time?
99% of television programming is government indoctrination.
The propaganda dept. wouldn't have it any other way.
Got any proof for that statistic? Nah, I'm pretty sure you made that number up on the spot because it suits your narrative and as well you won't have to admit that your "true" americans could equally be being duped by propaganda on tv to be rebellious against the government.
Your narrative is denial. The unjust re-sentencing of the Hammonds is reality. And that part 'escapes' the Main scream now, doesn't it?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner
So you are saying that the government shouldn't employ police officers then?