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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vroomfondel
So, you agree that attributing the fall in crime the first quarter of 2014 to the new concealed carry law makes no sense when there are so many factors which come into play.
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.
Let's address the issue. Bring ideas to the table.
Taking low-blows at your political adversaries does not produce results.
LOL!!!!
Ummmkayyy!
Can you not see the irony at all?
lol
Are you interested in a solution, or is this just going to be another thread where we play the same ole game of political back and forth? This issue goes beyond politics, but I see that some cannot get past that.
Point must have been lost on you my friend....I'm trying to get beyond the same ole game. I'm sick to death of it...perhaps the message got lost upon delivery somehow...
I'm sick to #ing death of the same ol' same ol'...
Status #ing quo doesn't work anymore...I know that.
What are your answers then, you have offered no solution to the problem, or even a mere idea on how to stop it.
Criminals are basically cowards if they see a gun on their potential victims, or think that the victim is carrying concealed, they will go find an easier target
originally posted by: CB328
Criminals are basically cowards if they see a gun on their potential victims, or think that the victim is carrying concealed, they will go find an easier target
That's obviously wrong because if it were true then the gangsters wouldn't be attacking each other all the time would they?
When I was growing up in the suburbs no one ever carried guns around and there was no violent crime, so the whole gun myth is complete B.S.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: wildb
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
I am saying historically gun control has killed 100's of millions..
There is no gun control in Chicago. The laws say one thing, but you can get a firearm easily.
You finally said it. Chicago is a legislated "gun free zone". And you see that this kind of legislation does not stop criminals from getting guns. It only stops law abiding citizens. That is why the law abiding citizens get so mad every time some lack wit says we need tougher gun laws and more gun control. The only people it affects are the people willing to obey the laws and that is not who the laws need to be directed at. When someone proposes a way to take guns away from criminals they will have my vote. But when everything they say and do is dedicated at targeting law abiding citizens I will fight it tooth and nail, as should every person who has an interest in this battle.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: xuenchen
...all...
I fully disagree with that.
We have illegal guns in the Uk too...
We don't have 3000 murders per year.
Find something else to blame.
Like the amount of guns available.
Or your terrible mental health services.
You can agree with those. They're both big government failures.
originally posted by: dismanrc
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: wildb
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
I am saying historically gun control has killed 100's of millions..
There is no gun control in Chicago. The laws say one thing, but you can get a firearm easily.
You finally said it. Chicago is a legislated "gun free zone". And you see that this kind of legislation does not stop criminals from getting guns. It only stops law abiding citizens. That is why the law abiding citizens get so mad every time some lack wit says we need tougher gun laws and more gun control. The only people it affects are the people willing to obey the laws and that is not who the laws need to be directed at. When someone proposes a way to take guns away from criminals they will have my vote. But when everything they say and do is dedicated at targeting law abiding citizens I will fight it tooth and nail, as should every person who has an interest in this battle.
Great, but futile post. They don't want facts, they want feel good ideas. Cain beat Able over the head with a rock, so blame the rock.
Published on Dec 17, 2012
President Obama promised "meaningful action" to prevent gun violence, but he didn't explain exactly what that meant. Although a push for some kind of gun control legislation seems likely, there's also the possibility of an anti-gun "informational campaign" as described in 1995 by then-U.S. Attorney Eric Holder. Holder, now Obama's attorney general, proposed using various levers of media and pop culture to attach a social stigma to guns, just as smoking has been stigmatized in recent decades.
"One thing that I think is clear with young people and with adults as well, is that we just have to be repetitive about this," Holder told the Women's National Democratic Club while discussing how to curb gun violence in D.C. "It's not enough to simply have a catchy ad on a Monday and then only do it every Monday. We need to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."
Eric Holder - We Must "Brainwash" People Against Guns! - (1995)