Truther Thread

a reply to: wildb

No sound of explosions in that video proves that no explosives were used.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: whatsup86

Your spikes as measured by the Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. Are these fakes?

No, and in fact, the Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory has confirmed that their seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions.

Show me the source please.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

No sound of explosions in that video proves that no explosives were used.

Um no it does not.. but there is video where the audio is present and the explosions are heard, they have been shown to you but you will never admit it because it does not fit your agenda...

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Now, to deceipher the rest of the story from your link.

Various metals (most notably iron and lead) were melted during the WTCEvent, producing spherical metallic particles. Exposure of phases to high heat results in the formation of spherical particles due to surface tension. Figure 21 and Figure 22 show a spherical iron particle resulting from the melting of iron (or steel).

Now, let's continue here and what do you see in the following photo?

Photo: Cut Steel Beam

The RJ Lee Group found no evidence of explosives or thermite in its dust samples and explosives and thermite do not leave behind molten metal. The RJ Lee Group also reported that torches were responsible for many of those spheres in its dust samples.

At what temperatures does a torch operate?

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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: tsctsc

I always explore these questions to satisfy myself. I never have the expectation that truth will be reported. It's sad, but I gave up on that hope years ago.

Yap... so am I, but even so, in order to get at least a few self-satisfying answers, we need to base them in solid info, and in cases like this, nothing that comes from a source that keeps lying will provide reliable reasonable foundations. IMHO

Anyways, I'll get back to you as to the reading you suggested. Always nice to get interesting inputs. If you found them enough to satisfy your curiosity, you may have your reasons. Open mind is a requirement, I guess

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: whatsup86

I can't speak for others, but if I felt skyeagle was in error, I would speak up.

I have, on many occasions corrected people on the debunker side.

And you've obviously never met Phage have you?

Not on a 911 thread no.

And Im not discussing members anymore. Just read back my previous few posts and tell me how an OS-er is not in error there.

ATTENTION

Please review this post about the 9/11 forum before posting again.


Stick to the topic at hand and knock off the attacks and snipes at each other. Accounts will be in jeopardy if it continues.

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Informer1958
To be clear, are you saying explosives were used to bring down the towers? If you are then uh oh, OP warned us about disinfo agents pushing that, among other things.

Read it yourself www.abovetopsecret.com...

What is wrong with stating explosives were used, you think random gravity and long burned jet fuel should do a better job ??

It is pretty funny to watch something exploding to powder and dust and spreading out over 500 square miles and not entertain explosives!

a reply to: ParasuvO

What is wrong with stating explosives were used,...

First of all, you have to show where demoliton explosions are heard in the WTC videos as the WTC buildings are collapsing. Secondly, you have to match any sound of explosions in the WTC videos with the seismic data. However, the operators of those seismic monitors have stated that their monitors did not detect demolition explosions and no demolition explosions are heard in any WTC video as the WTC buildings are collapsing.

... you think random gravity and long burned jet fuel should do a better job ??

Well, let's take a look here if you missed it before.

Kader Toy Factory Fire

At about 4pm on May 10th, 1993, a small fire was discovered on the first floor of part of the E-shaped building. Workers were instructed to keep working as the fire was thought to be minor. The fire alarm in this building did not sound.

The building was reinforced with un-insulated steel girders which quickly weakened and collapsed. This part of the building was dedicated to the storage of finished products and the fire spread quickly. Other parts of the factory were full of raw materials which also burnt very fast.

The Kader buildings,...collapsed relatively early in the fire because their structural steel supports lacked the fireproofing that would have allowed them to maintain their strength when exposed to high temperatures. A post-fire review of the debris at the Kader site showed no indication that any of the steel members had been fireproofed.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: ParasuvO
You need to understand the context of my post. Let's review. The OP replied to a post from hellobruce that had a list. The list included the use of explosives to which the OP replied that info was pushed by disinfo agents, not ''us'' (presumably meaning ''truthers''). If you have a problem with that then take it up with the OP.

ETA: My post has a link to the OP's post. Had you read that I shouldn't have had to explain this to you.

a reply to: ParasuvO

Gravity is not random, but is a constant force, who's strength only varies as one increases distance from a gravitational force.

Debris spread out over 500 miles? Would you care to source that information?

A large jet aircraft impacting anywhere can have a debris field that stretches for miles and miles.

A building that is over 1,360 feet tall in a non-demo collapse would quite easily spread it's debris around, most certainly several football fields away.

What would have been suspicious is: if all the debris and neatly stayed at the site.