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originally posted by: 123143
a reply to: Willtell
I'm an old woman. I understand oppression very well.
I come from a time when women could not buy birth control or a car or get a job without their husband's consent. Dresses and curled hair were mandatory when I was young.
God forbid you express an opinion and violence against women and children was A-OK.
I can only imagine how black women have felt.
BUT, the key is to make like a duck with the past - let it roll off you and move on to the future.
Strength and perseverance is what I respect. Whining, not so much.
originally posted by: Willtell
originally posted by: 123143
a reply to: Willtell
I'm an old woman. I understand oppression very well.
I come from a time when women could not buy birth control or a car or get a job without their husband's consent. Dresses and curled hair were mandatory when I was young.
God forbid you express an opinion and violence against women and children was A-OK.
I can only imagine how black women have felt.
BUT, the key is to make like a duck with the past - let it roll off you and move on to the future.
Strength and perseverance is what I respect. Whining, not so much.
But you see this man is responding (as he sees it) to the many black police killings.
This is what is driving him not the past, the present.
The 12 year old kid in Cleveland, for example, and many more he sees as current racial injustice.
I would agree with him
BUT, I personally don't like the generalized “white" talk
The greatest fighter for black civil rights was a white man: John Brown
Almost a million white men died during the civil war for black freedom
The guy is out of line, with this “white” talk.
He should talk to racists. They know who they are
To generalize this imo is wrong
originally posted by: RickinVa
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Indigo5
Do me a favor and quote where I said it was good. The picture you posted is one of the most famous pictures of a tortured slave. It is grotesque but it's not reflective of the way Africans were treated in America.
Furthermore, before you botched my post to hell and back, I was making it a point that slavery in America was by far, less deadly than slavery anywhere else and was NOT one of the most evil oppressions in the history of mankind, which debunked the post I was responding to.
The civil war was about States Rights...not slavery..
Slavery wasn't all that bad...
Just white-supremacist soft-porn...not unfamiliar or novel.
Kinda of boring really..
The civil war was about States Rights...not slavery..
The civil war was about States wanting to preserve the right to own other human beings... most people call that slavery.
A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery.
He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.
She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery - the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits - a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slaveholding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property, and by the use of their power in the Federal Government have striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common Territories of the Republic.
originally posted by: 123143
a reply to: Willtell
It would have helped his argument if he had also discussed the massacre of blacks BY blacks happening on a daily basis.
originally posted by: majkaveli
So many closet racist n one thread to jump on the bandwagon. History does show that white Europeans have been exploiting humans from other continents for eons, slavery has been around since humanity has existed but no one has profited so much from it then White people, denying it means denying your entire history.
All empires have been built on the backs of slaves and the best empires were built by white Europeans.
So many closet racist n one thread to jump on the bandwagon. History does show that white Europeans have been exploiting humans from other continents for eons, slavery has been around since humanity has existed but no one has profited so much from it then White people, denying it means denying your entire history.
All empires have been built on the backs of slaves and the best empires were built by white Europeans.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: majkaveli
So many closet racist n one thread to jump on the bandwagon. History does show that white Europeans have been exploiting humans from other continents for eons, slavery has been around since humanity has existed but no one has profited so much from it then White people, denying it means denying your entire history.
All empires have been built on the backs of slaves and the best empires were built by white Europeans.
Obviously slavery is travesty of humanity, and no one is exempt. But to be fair it was white Europeans who were the first to abolish slavery in the history of the universe, while everyone else, including black africans (as late as 1980) continued on. Yet no one mentions the Ottoman empire's slave trade. No one mentions the Brazilian slave trade. Without white Europeans, slavery would still be going on.
originally posted by: majkaveli
Once White people experience the same type of prejudice and treatment that other ethnicity's have for generations, than, and only than can you talk.
You cannot dismiss all of history and stick to a few self serving facts of today. This guy is an idiot, no doubt about it, but the way some people here are talking it sticks of closet racism, clinching to the opportunity to point their fingers "Hey see, they are racists too!!!!!1111"