It's Time to fight Back- How To Identify A Troll

a reply to: breakingbs
Shh, only private message, gotta be discreet!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Question to the OP:
With your unique experience in this subject; knowing it from BOTH sides...Would you be willing to become ATS's 'Troll Dexter'?

Can you expose any actual 'Paid' Trolls here on ATS currently?...you could even point them out to ATS management quietly.
It would be a service to us all...and would save us much wasted time, frustration and animosity.

I like that "Troll Dexter".

a reply to: grainofsand

Seen enough hogans heroes that i should already know this-

a reply to: breakingbs
Haha, seriously though ATS is a pretty safe online place, certainly much better than any other digital places I frequent.

a reply to: grainofsand

ATS members seem much more intelligent and better informed, as well.

a reply to: IAMTAT
Definitely, and members tend to self-police ourselves quite well calling obvious trolls out pretty quick usually...even when we disagree.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Question to the OP:
With your unique experience in this subject; knowing it from BOTH sides...Would you be willing to become ATS's 'Troll Dexter'?

Can you expose any actual 'Paid' Trolls here on ATS currently?...you could even point them out to ATS management quietly.
It would be a service to us all...and would save us much wasted time, frustration and animosity.

Nay, that would be against TOS and would earn me a ban.(Though it would be a ban well worth it, since i would then speak out my great displeasure in a much greater detail to ensure my ban. )


Instead, I give you tools to learn to ID them yourself. Give a man some food, he has his meal for the day. Teach a man to fish, and he will have food for a lifetime.



(Aside from that, I would have no patience in doing so. There are.. some responsibilities... I would much rather steer clear from. For my own sanity's sake. Besides, I'm a lover not a fighter and I still have some hope, even THEY will change their ways. And hopefully expose the situation themselves.)

a reply to: Iamnotadoctor

Maybe the trolls are the ones agreeing with you.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Understand.
Can you say if ATS currently has any infestation of 'Paid' trolls (if so, how bad?)...without giving specific names?

EDIT: Also, in which type of forums are they most involved?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Understand.
Can you say if ATS currently has any infestation of 'Paid' trolls (if so, how bad?)...without giving specific names?

EDIT: Also, in which type of forums are they most involved?

Oh there are MANY of them. They are even reading this thread right now. Don't worry, you're in "good hands" they are.. always watching out for ..us.

Use the tools I showed you on how to identify them, and you will no doubt see them. The wise move is, not to engage them by calling them out, but to become aware of them and catch them in the act. This is what I want genuine folks here to do. Once ATS become keen eyed enough to ID them, then it will be harder for them to fool anyone, which is my whole intent. Expose their tactics, and they are rendered powerless.



Edit:

They are everywhere, they are not specifically on just one site. if you knew how large in numbers they are, it would frighten you, and even discourage you. We are, out numbered.

They are in FB, YT, even inside the dark web. There is a reason why I lead a solitary life and hardly trusting anyone I know irl. And there is something deeper within that rabbit hole. But this, people will know in time when it is revealed.

What i can say is, one must not fall into reaction. Remember this formula and remember it well: problem.. reaction..solution. It applies to more things than one. This I promise you.

My apologies for speaking in either cryptic form, or in parables. But it is the only way I learned to express myself. This is reflected a lot within my posts. Which is why I highly accompany videos, or even movie scenes to explain such parables and/or allegories.


But I know this tends to annoy people a lot. My apologies if I did annoy you at any time with this.

originally posted by: MrsNonSpecific
I got accused of trolling on a thread, when I asked a genuine question. Yes, it was ignorant of me to not know who Alex Jones was, but I am not an American, and haven't really joined ATS for the conspiracy, my main motivation was the pet forum.

So although I appreciate your efforts for us to be aware of trolls, what is wrong with a sarcastic, ironic, witty, pithy comment towards someone you may find ridiculous in opinion?

Either stick by your guns and give a clear argument, and choose to respond or not.

I think creating hyper sensitivity around the issue could make things worse, and posters suspicious of anyone who cracks a joke or belittles a statement they deem ridiculous.

We are a community, we should all respect one another's views, but ultimately aren't we here to have a little discussion and fun?

Yes you did , by me. My accusation was based on the fact that your username indicates that you are the wife of our very own Nonspecific. A long standing member.

I was shocked that you didn't know of Alex Jones and thought you were trolling me.

You thought my opinions in that thread were ridiculous?

That's a bit harsh and I feel like you just trolled me again...

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Please teach me the power of your dark ways o master

Sorry your story reminds me of sith.

The apprentice turning on the master

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

In our case I had asked you an innocent question, and I added to the question an annecdote that my brain had first mis-read 'Alex Jones' as 'Aled Jones' and it amused me, as they are polls apart when first reading your post reply.

I did not believe your comment to be ridiculous.
Having no idea who were talking about, I therefore couldn't comment on whether I agreed or disagreed with your comment.

I was saying in general, i have seen people taking the mick out of people whose opinion they may deem to be ridiculous and therefore are a target of ridicule.

Me & NonSpecific tend to talk politics rather than conspiracy theorists.. the winter evenings just fly by!

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Thanks again.
Also, I see you're relatively new on ATS. Glad you're here. Please feel free to step in whenever you see one of us being unfairly set upon by trolls.


"Gosh, pop, WHO was that masked man?"
"Why THAT, son, was 'Soul Surfer'!"
"Jeepers."

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Please teach me the power of your dark ways o master

Sorry your story reminds me of sith.

The apprentice turning on the master

Well, if we speak in terms of allegories and metaphors/parables, you aren't far from the truth. I was a *snip*hole, whether or not I am still an *snip*hole, well people will ultimately remember me the way they wish at their own accord, and that can't be helped.

I just need to learn to accept that reality.

Funny, I was gonna mention the darth vader allegory, you sorta beat me to it.

Are we talking actual trolls? who live under bridges and stuff?.
Is it an actual load of people doing it on purpose and stuff? I dunno but many call troll when it is just an opposing view.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: SoulSurfer
Do you really think there is a troll problem on ATS though? I don't, I think the mods here do a great job.. Are you thinking more along facebook lines or something?

I think we do. There are in particular the anti-American ones, and the anti-Christian ones, and the anti-Muslim ones.

Giving your opinion on something is one thing, and fine, even negative opinions on any of the above, we all have them. But if you look at a person's history, and all they post on all day every day, are one of those subjects, saying outrageous lies, and making baiting comments, then my dear man, you have a troll.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Please teach me the power of your dark ways o master

Sorry your story reminds me of sith.

The apprentice turning on the master

Well, if we speak in terms of allegories and metaphors/parables, you aren't far from the truth. I was a *snip*hole, whether or not I am still an *snip*hole, well people will ultimately remember me the way they wish at their own accord, and that can't be helped.

I just need to learn to accept that reality.

Funny, I was gonna mention the darth vader allegory, you sorta beat me to it.

Well im such a starwars fan I think of everything in starwars allegories

We need a anti troll to bring balance to the internet

originally posted by: boymonkey74
Are we talking actual trolls? who live under bridges and stuff?.
Is it an actual load of people doing it on purpose and stuff? I dunno but many call troll when it is just an opposing view.

I think us brits are naturally a nation of trolls

a reply to: angeldoll

Disagree..
Just because some people post in certain forums doesn't mean they are trolling they may feel very strongly about the subject.
If people lie like you say point it out.

Oh and what about banter? is that trolling?.