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Sanders sues the DNC over suspended access to critical voter list

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

Considering a conservative brought up Sanders/Clintons polls in the first place who is trying to differentiate themselves here?



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: Malynn

Funny enough, I came for the aliens (as it was my very first thread) but stayed for the politics.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:25 PM
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Records show that during a 40-minute span that began at 10:40 a.m. on Wednesday, four Sanders staffers sifted through the Clinton campaign’s data and conducted 25 specialized searches, according to a person familiar with the breach. The most valuable information obtained, the source said, were lists of individuals the Clinton campaign has identified as its most hardcore supporters across 10 states, as well as lists of those individuals whose support for Clinton is wavering, and could therefore be convinced to support Sanders instead. Read more: www.politico.com...




The lists are obtained through the time-consuming process of phone banking and, based on those conversations, scoring voters based on how likely or unlikely they are to support Clinton. Sanders camp could benefit from the lists, for instance, by saving time on hitting up those voters who are clearly for Clinton and focusing on winning over those whose support is weaker Read more: www.politico.com...


Sounds like a desperation move by the Sanders camp.

Yeah them poll numbers ARE relevant.



With just weeks before voting is set to begin in Iowa and New Hampshire, Clinton is leading Sanders by more than 20 points in national polls. Read more: www.politico.com...


Sanders got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

It appears Sanders had nothing to do with it.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Sounds like the Sanders people were teeming and gleeming.



They must have thought they struck GOLD !!!



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: neo96

First of all, as I am sure you are well aware, Bernie himself didn't do any of this. Secondly, he fired the dude who did do this. Thirdly, if you can't smell how this reeks of blatant set-up by the DNC and Hillary I'm not entirely certain there is much hope for you, fourthly the company which controls the firewall itself said that the information was viewed and searched but not downloaded or extracted, fifthly the timing is awfully convenient, and sixthly holding Sanders own data hostage is certainly an interesting reaction to the whole thing.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen



“Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns. At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor," Sanders campaign spokesman Michael Briggs told ABC News
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thehill.com...

They knew for MONTHS before the DNC, and CLinton.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: neo96

Sounds like the Sanders people were teeming and gleeming.



They must have thought they struck GOLD !!!



It surprises me not at all that your vast intellect led you to this conclusion.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: neo96


Records show that during a 40-minute span that began at 10:40 a.m. on Wednesday, four Sanders staffers sifted through the Clinton campaign’s data and conducted 25 specialized searches, according to a person familiar with the breach. The most valuable information obtained, the source said, were lists of individuals the Clinton campaign has identified as its most hardcore supporters across 10 states, as well as lists of those individuals whose support for Clinton is wavering, and could therefore be convinced to support Sanders instead. Read more: www.politico.com...




The lists are obtained through the time-consuming process of phone banking and, based on those conversations, scoring voters based on how likely or unlikely they are to support Clinton. Sanders camp could benefit from the lists, for instance, by saving time on hitting up those voters who are clearly for Clinton and focusing on winning over those whose support is weaker Read more: www.politico.com...


Sounds like a desperation move by the Sanders camp.

Yeah them poll numbers ARE relevant.



With just weeks before voting is set to begin in Iowa and New Hampshire, Clinton is leading Sanders by more than 20 points in national polls. Read more: www.politico.com...


Sanders got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.


Okay. If true, this changes everything.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

As I said Sanders wasn't above doing it.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Well, I'll admit...this doesn't look good for Sanders.
4 staffers mining Clinton donor lists looks well organized and must've come from further up in the campaign.
Again, if true.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Yes, they alerted the vendor and the DNC about the firewall MONTHS ago. And were assured by both parties that it was being taken care of, the Sanders campaign was very concerned at that time their data was being accessed by other campaigns, aka Hillary. They were assured it was fine. Now, the firewall Vendor, who is incidentally run by a former Hillary staffer and current Hillary supporter "Messed up" the firewall again. Whoops!



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

That is not at all what happened. And it will not be at damaging to Bernie.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: neo96

Well, I'll admit...this doesn't look good for Sanders.
4 staffers mining Clinton donor lists looks well organized and must've come from further up in the campaign.
Again, if true.


Four dumb staffers huddled around a pc looking at info they are not supposed to look at, with no downloads or copies made, and you come to the conclusion that it's well organized, they were mining and must have come from higher up?

That doesn't make much sense.

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This is more comparable to a group of high school boys gathered around a pc to watch the latest celeb porn video than a highly-organized political event.
edit on 18-12-2015 by introvert because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Spin this again.



The lists are obtained through the time-consuming process of phone banking and, based on those conversations, scoring voters based on how likely or unlikely they are to support Clinton. Sanders camp could benefit from the lists, for instance, by saving time on hitting up those voters who are clearly for Clinton and focusing on winning over those whose support is weaker



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:45 PM
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Establishment Dems and their media cronies have been giving Bernie Sanders the Ran Paul treatment like the establishment Reps did an election cycle ago, they hold the debates at such odd hrs and days because they know the more exposure Bernie got the dimmer Hillary's chances are, as to a third party one is most definitely needed but most folks are afraid to brake with tradition.
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: neo96

This info could be beneficial to Sanders' campaign, but it stated there were no downloads or copies made.

That alone debunks your assertion.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: introvert

But why was only ONE person fired from the campaign?
Shouldn't all four of these dumb staffers and their supervisor have then been fired as well?



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Putin for President?



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Hmmm



Fallon also added in a statement on Friday afternoon, “We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders' campaign account. We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign's account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.” Read more: www.politico.com...


What do you call that ?




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