Breaking: Massive ISIS attack on Turkish military camp in Iraq, 70 soldiers missing

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The Vice President reaffirmed the United States' commitment to Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity and called on Turkey to do the same by withdrawing any military forces from Iraqi territory that have not been authorized by the Iraqi government. The Vice President encouraged continued dialogue between Iraq and Turkey to address any outstanding grievances in the spirit of mutual cooperation.

www.whitehouse.gov...

It seems Reuters is only reporting half the story

a reply to: spy66

Yeah so the media tells us.

And the people who lived there...

One year after Islamic State fighters captured Iraq’s second-largest city, residents tell their stories.

“Theft is punished by amputating a hand, adultery by men by throwing the offender from a high building, and adultery by women by stoning to death,” one resident told the BBC. “The punishments are carried out in public to intimidate people, who are often forced to watch.”

The report also noted the destruction of mosques, the conversion of churches, and harsh implementation of strict Shariah law, under which women are forced to cover up head-to-toe (including gloves), and which includes floggings for small infractions like smoking cigarettes. A widowed mother of four told The Guardian she had had her hand chopped off for stealing.

www.theatlantic.com...

Or do they not count?

a reply to: sosobad

It seems Reuters is only reporting half the story

How is that, nowhere in the release from the White House does it say he told Turkey they have to go, but it does say he told them the US stance concerning Iraq, and asked Turkey to do the same...

The Vice President reaffirmed the United States' commitment to Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity and called on Turkey to do the same by withdrawing any military forces from Iraqi territory that have not been authorized by the Iraqi government. The Vice President encouraged continued dialogue between Iraq and Turkey to address any outstanding grievances in the spirit of mutual cooperation. Both leaders reaffirmed their continued commitment to the fight against ISIL in Iraq.

www.whitehouse.gov...

Calling on someone to do something is a far cry from actually telling them they have to go. So they didn't report only part of the story now did they?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Calling on someone to do something is a far cry from actually telling them they have to go.

That is some quality mental gymnastics!

So they didn't report only part of the story now did they?

Yes they did

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

For reference here is RTs headline
US calls on Turkey to withdraw ‘unauthorized’ troops from Iraq
www.rt.com...

Where is the lie in that? On the other hand

Biden, in call with Turkey PM, urges cooperation with Iraq (your link)

Where is the part that Reuters reported on Biden calling for Turkey to withdraw their troops? No mention.... hence half a story

we have today news, Turkey already started to withdraw forces from Iraq.
But the article states clearly this information as "indications", not clear yet. In addition Turkey evacuates kurdish towns and they make preparations for a conflict with kurds inside turkey. Few days ago, Turkey bombarded another kurdish town and it seems PKK is going to war.

the auto translation is a bit off, but understandable.
link

a reply to: tsurfer2000h


Yeah Mosul is the city where ISIS are going to fight it out With the Turks. Lets wait and see how this Plays out.

Musul & Kerkuk will not be left for Iranians control.

Kerry's remarks should be understood properly with an anectode perhaps ;

First Gulf War pending shortly and father Bush & President of Turkey , Mr Ozal are having a conversation on the phone and the subject matter is how to coordinate the US & Turkish troops in the coming operation.

Father Bush is urging Mr Ozal to enter Iraq from north and head towards Bagdat . Only thing the Americans ask of Turks to wait outside for US troops from the south to arrive at the gates of Bagdat so the city can be seen to be taken by US troops .

Mr. Ozal tells father Bush that if the Turks gets into Musul & Kirkuk ; they won't leave .

Father Bush replies ; You've entered Cyprus in 1974, who is now asking you to leave ?

......


Musul & Kirkuk are predominantly Sunni muslim of Kurds & Turkmens & Arabs in ethnicity .

Not a Persian in sight .

After all it is Ataturk's Will that Musul & Kirkuk , as well as Western Thrace should come back to Istanbul .

It is a true Mexican Stand Off in Mesopotamia and the air is thick with fog of uncertainty , it is the perfect weather for Wolves .

Iran & Russia are trying to surround the oil fields and use oil as a weapon to defeat Western bloc .

Hopeless vision and stupid strategy if you ask me .

Fox is the cleverest animal in the forest but unfortunately Fox is always hungry , never have enough to eat.

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You Turks will never get Mosul. Not in a millions years. You can try and use Your rebel Peshmergas to start a uprising in Iraq, based on the Syrian model. But Our Iraqi trained Peshmergas are selected, better trained and better equiped. And are being trained to handel Your rebels around Mosul. Dont you pay attention to details? Dont you pay attention to what is really being said in the News.

Do you really think the Iraqi government will Train Peshmerga troops that are more loyal to Your government than their own? Wake up....

The Iraqi government are threatening to use their Iraqi loyal Peshmergas to hit Your Peshmerga rebels and Turkish soldiers aroud Mosul.

IF there are som Germans here.... they can probably confirm that about the Peshmergas they are training in Germany right now. The Peshmergas we Train are not loyal to the Turkish government.

originally posted by: spy66
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You Turks will never get Mosul. Not in a millions years. You can try and use Your rebel Peshmergas to start a uprising in Iraq, based on the Syrian model. But Our Iraqi trained Peshmergas are selected, better trained and better equiped. And are being trained to handel Your rebels around Mosul. Dont you pay attention to details? Dont you pay attention to what is really being said in the News.

Do you really think the Iraqi government will Train Peshmerga troops that are more loyal to Your government than their own? Wake up....

The Iraqi government are threatening to use their Iraqi loyal Peshmergas to hit Your Peshmerga rebels and Turkish soldiers aroud Mosul.

IF there are som Germans here.... they can probably confirm that about the Peshmergas they are training in Germany right now. The Peshmergas we Train are not loyal to the Turkish government.

What???

Iraq received a full on hysterectomy from decades of sanctions followed by bunker busters, drones strikes, IED's, White Phosphorus, Depleted Uranium, the whole nine. The Iraqi Army was dissolved and many/most joined various factions. All the while America builds a fortified "green zone" that rivals the Vatican (a soveirgn nation). Beyond that, Iraq is torn between Kurds, Sunni and Shia's who on the face of things "seem" to be at each other's throat, yet seems everyone is really secular in nature anyhow. It's just, just know, like everywhere always a few like to speak for the many.

What I'm getting at, is everyone and their mom are getting action in Iraq right now. What everyone else says about the action is usually gossip. So with a little bit of confidence I can tell ya, it's probably not that long.

originally posted by: spy66
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You Turks will never get Mosul. Not in a millions years. You can try and use Your rebel Peshmergas to start a uprising in Iraq, based on the Syrian model. But Our Iraqi trained Peshmergas are selected, better trained and better equiped. And are being trained to handel Your rebels around Mosul. Dont you pay attention to details? Dont you pay attention to what is really being said in the News.

Do you really think the Iraqi government will Train Peshmerga troops that are more loyal to Your government than their own? Wake up....

The Iraqi government are threatening to use their Iraqi loyal Peshmergas to hit Your Peshmerga rebels and Turkish soldiers aroud Mosul.

IF there are som Germans here.... they can probably confirm that about the Peshmergas they are training in Germany right now. The Peshmergas we Train are not loyal to the Turkish government.

There is no Iraq anymore , wake up and smell the coffee .

Iraqi Army can't even handle bunch of DAESH dogs and you think that Bagdat can defat Istanbul ?

Btw , who are you ?

A Norwegian who bought into the dream of Persian/Arab Shia future in Mesopotamia ?

A Persian/Arab who lives in Norway ?

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: 23432


You Turks will never get Mosul. Not in a millions years. You can try and use Your rebel Peshmergas to start a uprising in Iraq, based on the Syrian model. But Our Iraqi trained Peshmergas are selected, better trained and better equiped. And are being trained to handel Your rebels around Mosul. Dont you pay attention to details? Dont you pay attention to what is really being said in the News.

Do you really think the Iraqi government will Train Peshmerga troops that are more loyal to Your government than their own? Wake up....

The Iraqi government are threatening to use their Iraqi loyal Peshmergas to hit Your Peshmerga rebels and Turkish soldiers aroud Mosul.

IF there are som Germans here.... they can probably confirm that about the Peshmergas they are training in Germany right now. The Peshmergas we Train are not loyal to the Turkish government.

There is no Iraq anymore , wake up and smell the coffee .

Iraqi Army can't even handle bunch of DAESH dogs and you think that Bagdat can defat Istanbul ?

You shouldnt talk bad about Your peshmerga soldiers. They are being hunted all over Iraq.

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: 23432


You Turks will never get Mosul. Not in a millions years. You can try and use Your rebel Peshmergas to start a uprising in Iraq, based on the Syrian model. But Our Iraqi trained Peshmergas are selected, better trained and better equiped. And are being trained to handel Your rebels around Mosul. Dont you pay attention to details? Dont you pay attention to what is really being said in the News.

Do you really think the Iraqi government will Train Peshmerga troops that are more loyal to Your government than their own? Wake up....

The Iraqi government are threatening to use their Iraqi loyal Peshmergas to hit Your Peshmerga rebels and Turkish soldiers aroud Mosul.

IF there are som Germans here.... they can probably confirm that about the Peshmergas they are training in Germany right now. The Peshmergas we Train are not loyal to the Turkish government.

There is no Iraq anymore , wake up and smell the coffee .

Iraqi Army can't even handle bunch of DAESH dogs and you think that Bagdat can defat Istanbul ?

You shouldnt talk bad about Your peshmerga soldiers. They are being hunted all over Iraq.

I have idea what you are trying say .

Btw , who are you ?

A Norwegian who bought into the dream of Persian/Arab Shia future in Mesopotamia ?

A Persian/Arab who lives in Norway ?

a reply to: Rosinitiate


The Iraqi army is being rebuilt all over the Place. Not just in Iraq, but in Kuwait, Germany and some other Places.

EDIT: The US knows where the Iraqi pilots get their training on the F-16s. The Russians know where the MI28 and Su-25 pilots are being trained.


We are not involved in what the Turks are doing around Mosul. That si like the US said.....all on the Turks.

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Btw , who are you ?

This is a Public forum. I am not going to tell you who i am.

A Norwegian who bought into the dream of Persian/Arab Shia future in Mesopotamia ?

This is not my dream.... I have nothing to do With this. But you have to agree that Your Turkish Peshmerga are not the same as the once the Iraqi government are training and using.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

My post was along the line that the US said Assud must go but Kerry recently flipped flopped and said Assud can stay .The US just recently told Turkey should respect the Iraq territory and pull out . The RT vid is talking about Biden giving the message to Turkey ... The vid is more of a responce to this vid that was on the 10th when RT was asking a question about the Turkey Iraq issue .. listen to his response

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: 23432

Btw , who are you ?

This is a Public forum. I am not going to tell you who i am.

A Norwegian who bought into the dream of Persian/Arab Shia future in Mesopotamia ?

This is not my dream.... I have nothing to do With this. But you have to agree that Your Turkish Peshmerga are not the same as the once the Iraqi government are training and using.

What are you getting out of watching Sunni Kurds , Turkmens and Arabs slaughtered at the hands of Shia Arabs/Persians .

You just like to watch muslims kill one another , is that it ?

You are defending Oriental against Occidental , why ?

Iraqi government only exists in the imagination because there never was a nation called IRAQ .

It is an artificial entity which was created to serve a purpose of emperialism .

just like Syria is .

Fake countries have no chance to remain in tact in the long term .

Didn't political history lessons teach you this little fact ?

a reply to: 23432

The Turkish War of Independence (1919–22), initiated by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and his colleagues in Anatolia, resulted in the establishment of the modern Republic of Turkey in 1923,

en.wikipedia.org...

Turkey seems to be a little older then Israel ....

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Man that Kirby is a sniveling weasel rather than make any attempt at decorum and answer the question he tries to put her down. On top of that he totally contradicts himself when he first goes on to say the questions are crazy/stupid and then says you don't ask any hard questions like this of your own government. Which is it Kirby you dumbass crazy/stupid or hard? There was absolutely nothing wrong with her questions, he just turned into a bag of hormones when she had the cheek to ask.

a reply to: sosobad

That vid has over 100,000 views and has been talked about enough that it may have cause Biden to make the statements he did to Turkey . But ya , a real piece of work he is ...