Melting steel?

a reply to: wildb

As far as WR I have no opinion about him..

Well, you shouldn't have posted a reference that had anything to do with William Rodriguez because it was determined that he was a fraud and a liar, and the fact that you'd posted a reference of a guy who supported William Rodriguez was another blunder.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Falling elevators at the WTC is not common either, but apparently, that is what caused the explosion-like sounds in the basement. Explosions have occurred in the WTC area before and I might add, the explosion they heard in the basement had nothing to do with explosives and you are not paying attention because they have indicated that falling elevators crashing into the lower level were responsible for the explosive sounds they heard.

Sound does not break bones, rip flesh off people, nor does sound kill people...

Because a single hinge point beneath a rotating upper block of the WTC Towers would have been far too weak to support an upper block in order to allow the upper block to tilt over to the side. In other words, based on the construction of the WTC Towers and the location of the center-of-gravity of the upper blocks, there was no way the upper blocks could have tilted over the side.

Don't let sky guy lie to you, video clearly shows the south tower upper block falling off to the side and away from the building just before it disintegrates..

WTC 7 suffered massive impact damage from debris as WTC 1 collapsed and the raging fires that followed were out of control because there was no water to confront those fires.

NIST stated the damage to wtc 7 had nothing to do with its collapse, again don't let him mislead you..

Well, you shouldn't have posted a reference that had anything to do with William Rodriguez because it was determined that he was a fraud and a liar, and the fact that you'd posted a reference of a guy who supported William Rodriguez was another blunder.

The story I posted was not about Rodriguez, sky guy has not posted any evidence that he was or is a fraud. Furthermore the story of the other man supports Rodriguez and his claims...

a reply to: wildb

Don't let sky guy lie to you, video clearly shows the south tower upper block falling off to the side and away from the building just before it disintegrates.

The upper block tilted, not fall off to the side of the building. If you think it did, post a video for us all. It is evident that you are not paying attention.

a reply to: wildb

Sound does not break bones, rip flesh off people, nor does sound kill people...

If you had been paying attention, you would have read where it was mentioned the explosion-like sounds in the basement were from falling elevators.

a reply to: skyeagle409
elevators fell before the planes hit you mean?

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

Don't let sky guy lie to you, video clearly shows the south tower upper block falling off to the side and away from the building just before it disintegrates.

The upper block tilted, not fall off to the side of the building. If you think it did, post a video for us all. It is evident that you are not paying attention.

I already have, and if it did not disintegrate it would have fallen down next to the tower. So it seems you are not paying attention..

a reply to: wildb

NIST stated the damage to wtc 7 had nothing to do with its collapse, again don't let him mislead you..

Fire, was mainly responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 and impact damage on the south wall of WTC 7 is why WTC 7 tilted toward the south in the final seconds of its collapse.

Once again, you are not paying attention to details.

a reply to: wildb

Based on the massive damage incurred on its south wall, WTC 7 tilts toward the south in the following video at time line 0:48.

originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: skyeagle409
elevators fell before the planes hit you mean?

Yes let hear sky guy reason for the elevators falling before the plane hit, and only one elevator could have done that..

Fire, was mainly responsible for the collapse of WTC 7 and impact damage on the south wall of WTC 7 is why WTC 7 tilted toward the south in the final seconds of its collapse.

I think the explosives that were heard were the reason the building came down.. and yes I already posted that video with your freaking time lines as well.

a reply to: wildb

Yes let hear sky guy reason for the elevators falling before the plane hit, and only one elevator could have done that..

The plane is what cut the lines to the falling elevators. You are not paying attention.

The Elevator Man's Tale

The Elevator Man's Tale
Featuring the unabridged transcript and audio.

Robert Jones
Age: 52
Hometown: Montgomery
Family: Two children
Occupation: Elevator mechanic for Ace Elevator in the World Trade Center
Was in the south tower when the first plane hit.

As I turned around to go back toward the core of the building in the lobby, the second plane hit, and that shook the building.

We heard the explosion and within a matter of seconds after that impact, I heard – and as well as everybody else heard – this noise, this increasing sound of wind. And it was getting louder and louder. It was like a bomb, not quite the sound of a bomb coming down from a bomber. It was a sound of wind increasing, a whistling sound, increasing in sound.

I’m looking from the lobby up to a mezzanine area or the second floor where they lined up all the people to go up to the rooftop, and I’m looking up expecting something, building parts to be coming down, because I wasn’t quite sure what that noise was.

But I found out later, when the plane came through the building, it cut the hoist ropes, the governor ropes, of (the) 6 and 7 cars, which was the observation cars.

Every night they would park those two cars up on the 107th floor. At the time the plane impacted B Tower, the observation deck wasn’t open yet, which was another life-saving factor. At the time it impacted the building, they hadn’t opened the observation deck.

Had they, there would’ve been many, maybe another 1,000, 2,000 people on the rooftop, because it was a clear day. It was a beautiful day.

What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level.And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.

You have no case.

a reply to: skyeagle409
but apparently the elevator fell before the plane hit...didnt it?

a reply to: wildb

I think the explosives that were heard were the reason the building came down..and yes I already posted that video with your freaking time lines as well.

You did not and to prove my case, you cannot post the time lines because there were no such time lines for you to post. I bet that you cannot post the time lines you've said you posted, and post them right now.

In other words, I am challenging you to post those time lines for us all right now and stop your stalling.

a reply to: hiddenNZ

Nope, because it was the plane that cut the cables to the elevators. From the link.

But I found out later, when the plane came through the building, it cut the hoist ropes, the governor ropes, of (the) 6 and 7 cars, which was the observation cars.

www.thrnewmedia.com...

a reply to: wildb

Yes let hear sky guy reason for the elevators falling before the plane hit, and only one elevator could have done that..

Once again, you are not paying attention. Check it out.

But I found out later, when the plane came through the building, it cut the hoist ropes,... What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.

www.thrnewmedia.com...

Nope, because it was the plane that cut the cables to the elevators. From the link

Wonderful, so we have established that the explosions in the sub levels were not due to falling elevators before the plane hit..

a reply to: wildb

I think the explosives that were heard were the reason the building came down..

In that case you should have no problem posting time lines where explosions are heard in the following video.



Now, where are the time lines from that video that depicts the sound of explosions as WTC 7 collapses?