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Government For Sale: How the 2016 Elections Are Bought!

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: MotherMayEye

He ran and won the election for Governor of Minnesota as a third party independent.

He has publicly spoken out against both parties, more so the democrats then the republicans in recent years.

He has stated dozens and dozens of times that any political party, including the Reform Party, is corrupt and liken them to a gang in his book "Democrips and Rebloodlicans" in the sense that you need to conform to the parties overall status quo or else you will be completely shut out which is exactly what we see time and time again.

When it comes to JV, I see no political bias when it comes to any affiliation to a political party.


I disagree that all of the above proves JV is sincere.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Alien Abduct


I replied to a question asked by Konduit.

at any rate I agree with you. JV is some sort of operative



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

It must be a pretty complicated rouse coming from an ex-pro wrestler, considering he bashes on both parties without discrimination.

In fact, he has spoken out significantly more against the Dems then Repubs in recent years, but obviously he's a democrat agent... we are now entering Ancient Aliens level of conspiracy here folks.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
we are now entering Ancient Aliens level of conspiracy here folks.


*yawn*



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Like I said, the power lies in the accusation, not the facts.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
we are now entering Ancient Aliens level of conspiracy here folks.


Wait...Didn't Jesse Ventura -- the guy you give your faith, love, and devotion to -- do an episode or three concerning Aliens, Shapeshifting reptilians, etc.. on his show 'Conspiracy Theory???'

Skinwalkers

ETA: The power...wow, it does lie in the accusations, not the facts. (Until we dredge up the topics featured on Jesse Ventura's 'Conspiracy Theory.')


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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don't see what that has to do with his political affiliations, and I didn't give my faith, love and devotion to JV when all I do is point out the fact that he has spoken out extensively against both political parties.

Your just grasping at straws here mate.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don't see what that has to do with his political affiliations, and I didn't give my faith, love and devotion to JV when all I do is point out the fact that he has spoken out extensively against both political parties.

Your just grasping at straws here mate.


You're the one that likened my theory to something as "crazy" as JV's conspiracy theories to prove how awesome he is and how wrong I am.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Obviously the context of the remark went over your head. You may be right about Trump, but it's not about proving how awesome JV is, it's pointing out the facts about him that you seem to ignore to support your own "conspiracy".

You see where I'm going with this?
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Obviously the context of the remark went over your head. You may be right about Trump, but it's not about proving how awesome JV is, it's pointing out the facts about him that you seem to ignore to support your own "conspiracy".


The 'context' of your remark was to point out to all the "folks" that suggesting JV is a provocateur and a political operative is "ancient alien" crazy.

But you forgot that Jesse is full-on into all kinds of aliens and reptilian shapeshifters...

So, surely even Jesse wouldn't find my theory anywhere near as implausible as the dozens of crazy conspiracy theories he peddles all the time as a disinfo agent.

Oh, I got your context. You aren't anywhere near above my head.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

So we're in agreement, you ignore specific facts in order to promote your own conspiracy.

Perhaps you should start your own conspiracy show, your definitely on the right track.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Talk about grasping at straws.

LOL!!!



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: JesseVentura

So how do we go about changing it? The same people who use these Super Pacs for re-elections are the same politicians who have to vote for campaign finance reform. It's like the fox guarding the hen house.

Until they put campaign finance reform on the ballot for the people to decide, it will continue to be business as usual.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Let's just leave it at LOL!!! It pretty much sums up this whole debate.

Your right, JV is a democratic operative that extensively speaks out against the party and writes entire books bashing on them... but because he didn't talk about Trump taking donations... which he doesn't... he's a democratic agent.

I'm sold.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Let's just leave it at LOL!!! It pretty much sums up this whole debate.

Your right, JV is a democratic operative that extensively speaks out against the party and writes entire books bashing on them... but because he didn't talk about Trump taking donations... which he doesn't... he's a democratic agent.

I'm sold.


Never once did I mention 'democratic agent.'

I don't believe there is ANY difference in the two parties. They conspire together....while Jesse distracts and does their bidding.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: Enochstask

Who’s funding Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? Watch me investigate the backers of the 2016 presidential elections! Plus, does money translate into popularity? How come Jeb’s raking in over $100 million in campaign financing but still sitting at the bottom of the polls? Watch and find out!




So why did you even mention Donald Trump in the opening paragraph if you don't have any information about him in the video? It's like you just wanted to lump him in with all the others taking special interest money. A tad bit disingenuous don't you think?

He mentioned Trump to get people that normally wouldn't watch his crap to watch his video. Would have worked with me but you saved me the trouble, thanks!

Also, JV is willing to say anything for money, he admitted it right here on ATS.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Enochstask

Who’s funding Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? Watch me investigate the backers of the 2016 presidential elections! Plus, does money translate into popularity? How come Jeb’s raking in over $100 million in campaign financing but still sitting at the bottom of the polls? Watch and find out!




So why did you even mention Donald Trump in the opening paragraph if you don't have any information about him in the video? It's like you just wanted to lump him in with all the others taking special interest money. A tad bit disingenuous don't you think?

He mentioned Trump to get people that normally wouldn't watch his crap to watch his video. Would have worked with me but you saved me the trouble, thanks!

Also, JV is willing to say anything for money, he admitted it right here on ATS.


I'm glad I could jump on the grenade for you. LOL!



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 04:34 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Here is a thought... How about you focus on the content of the video instead of the the person who is presenting the video. Did you see any false information? Did you see nothing but truth? Is there anything wrong with the video?

I saw nothing but truth. I see nothing wrong with the video. So I see nothing wrong with JV in this light.

I see you going off topic though.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 05:08 AM
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Here we have some numbers about bought and paid for politicians and all people can do is argue about who is an agent provocateur. I was pleased Bernie has not succumbed to siren song of political pac money even though I wouldn't vote for a socialist in this life time or the next one. The Crazy old man Ron Paul was demonized and the press tried everything to ruin his chances at a fair election. The same big guns are after the one individual who has supposed not taken a dime from super pacs or big donor corporations.. Trump may be full of himself but a democratic government has a way of grinding the sharp pointy things off and individual. If he could make our tax system work for everyone and bring back manufacturing and other business to America he should be carried down main street on everyone's shoulders. Trump on business seems to know what he is talking about to many in America if the poll numbers are correct. He seems to still be preaching the same message after all these years.
youtu.be...


No job, no perceived future, see what that gets a society in the long and short term.
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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 05:33 AM
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Good vid. I had never seen that one before. It does sound like the same idea he is putting forth now also.

Which contradicts him flip flopping like some have said.



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