All this anti Muslim propaganda is having an effect...

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: LSU0408

Anybody who raises children to look at people with contempt - biblically speaking, is teaching kids to hate.

~Tenth

And this is not front and center in other religions ??

Islam ? Judaism ?

Very odd positions you are slanting at.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: forkedtongue

They are too blinded by their ideologies.

The irony of this statement...is palpable.

~Tenth

Sounds like a difference of opinions.

There is a difference between a difference of opinions and not realising that your beliefs are misguided and misinformed.

LMAO, the MSM make you feel all warm about something and you now know what beliefs are misguided ???

This is truly the most funny coming from people who do NOT think 9/11 was an inside job.

Organized ignorance/organized religion, is the root of this evil. No one person or group can do more evil than someone who imagines they have a anthropomorphic deity on their side.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
I just don't agree that anyone is being afraid willingly. If you hear a loud boom go off behind you, your response is automatic. You do not respond willfully, your actions after identifying the source and your level of danger, may be willful.

And that's what I mean. Of course, in the middle of an attack, people are going to be frightened. But after the fact, if you abandon all reason and irrationally "fear" all Muslims, then you are willingly fearful.

Fear is something we all feel, but we can let it consume us and allow it to control our actions, OR we can face our fears and REFUSE to let it control our actions. If one lets fear dictate their actions, they are giving into it.

I don't have anything against being prudent. But it is impossible to prevent 100% of incidents. I refuse to live in fear. That's all we have to do. Refuse it. Or embrace it and let it be our guide. Which master will you serve? Fear or Love?

Why do you need a master ??

Let us move beyond this paradigm, for crying out loud.

You are as perfectly controlled by the MSM as everyone else who watches it like a hawk, your reactions to it all are plain, you are influenced and live in fear CLEARLY.

You even say here, that you embrace your fear, and let it be your guide

No matter how you word this, you do not seem capable of seeing just how controlled you REALLY ARE.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: and14263

this is not actually entirely true some percentage of muslim parents bring their children up to hate the west,telling them how great the mother land is and how we the west have destroyed it ,and totally ignore the fact they have been fighting amoung themselves

Yes.

And some parents bring their children up to be homosexual hating Christians - but not all.

EDIT: I wonder what the percentage is you talk of?

Clever. False, but clever. Nobody brings their kids up to be Christians that hate gays. You people claim that anyone that disagrees with gay marriage is a gay hater.

What about those westboro baptist church folks?

I'm pretty sure that is what they do but only know what I have read in the news so could be incorrect on this?

Well, every Christian I've ever heard from detests those fools from Westboro that claim to be Christians. They'll be burning in hell when their lives expire.

That was in response to your claim that no christians raise there children to hate gay people.

Are you saying that although they claim to be christian they are in fact a radical extreme faction of christianity and the VAST majority of christians do not feel the same way?

You are truly as funny as most of the posters here demanding we "understand" Muslims or anyone else, and claim that people are generalizing FALSELY about them, then go on multiple times in this thread SHOWING that you are completely parroting what you here, and do not realize that you are attacking Christians just because you think they are the only ones against ISLAM, or any other religion.

You claim people generalize about ISLAM and then spout that it is "intolerant and bigoted" then go on to say that only Christians are raised to behave in a fashion that has the support of the "vast majority"?

I would say the vast majority of posters such as yourself, are all followers and have no clue as to the depth of how your being played,

But thanks for telling US how silly it really is.

originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

A religion that has a WORSE track record on women, and gay rights than that other most villainous one that starts with a C.

It is indeed beyond bizarre watching people who think Christians against abortion are way WAY more villainous than anything that goes on in Muslim countries.

And they want to bring it here, my GOD the world is getting ready to abort religion,

Hey lets just make our charter say that if people "call us out" it will be against God. Said ISIS and manipulative children. It may not be Muslims in general, but Sharia Law is definitely the source of terrorism and the USA really doesn't have the ability to distinguish who is who at this point. NOT OUR FAULT. And the crazies will be stirred and attack American Muslims but that's why ALL AMERICANS have guns. Freedom just isn't something you can have without constantly protecting it. Americans will call out against any attackers until the threat is resolved. Regardless of whatever weird or dumbfounded response they give to the world.

Some of the comments on here are making me think that Islamic extremists do not want to kill Americans or Christians. Maybe some of You making these comments should invite some Islamic extremists to your house for Xmas. When the media(s) are involved, there is propaganda everywhere. The media starts all kinds of stuff like riots, race wars and so on. Here is the bottom line. What religion do 99.9% of terrorist attacks in the U.S.A. as well as the middle east have in common ? My question is why in the world would muslims want to live in the U.S. I thought we were the great satan, it seems that we like everything that they hate so why live here ? Im not saying they aren't welcomed by me, but daym, get your priorities straight peaceful muslims. Muslims also reject the ideas that PC folks have in common, like being cool with gay people and interracial marriage, please don't make me get into how the extremists sadly deprive the women of education. It is oxymoronic to support something that is against everything you believe in and have worked hard to achieve. Think what you like, that's what I think.

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: theonenonlyone

Yay! This is it. Make America Hate Again!

As long as we hate only one another it seems to be okay.

The hate is exactly the way this agenda is supposed to unfold.
Interesting times.....

So just to make sure I'm keeping this straight:

A few muslims attack citizens other countries. In response, the citizens of those countries want to restrict muslims in one way or another. Some citizens over-react against muslims. This makes "muslims at large feel targeted, abused and discriminated against."

In reaction, some muslims believe they should radicalize and become willing to attack citizens of other countries, because how dare people react to being attacked?

Gosh, I guess the answer is to let the radicalized muslims attack/kill citizens in other countries and not worry about it? Let them blow off a little steam?

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Well, you can't deny the effect that the recent attention to it all has on society, can you?
Suddenly everyone seems to have an opinion on the Islam for instance....

a reply to: theonenonlyone

It would be nice if the Muslims had a Love Americans campaign.

Why must we do all the loving?

a reply to: MRuss

Apparently when something is done, it is not good enough or ignored.

They still try but that side would rather discuss the bad side rather than consider another side of them.

a reply to: theonenonlyone

Good. Muslims need to be put on the defensive. America is not a Muslim country and should never allow Islam to take root and change society. Muslims should never be able to effect government policy at any level. Their political and social influence should be opposed at all times.

a reply to: Kapusta

Personally when I "hate" I make sure I do it on a foundation of understanding.

And sometimes when I hate.. I'm not really hating, I'm just disagreeing with someone that would hypocritically label others hateful.

Now, don't go reading too much into this.. Just saying, what some people call hate others call being vigilant, and what they call tolerance I call ignorance and cowardice.

Just don't think I'm condoning this savage behaviour though, I've seen these dialectic triggers coming for years on both sides. This conflict is preprogrammed.. think anyone can stop it? You're a Muslim.. you must believe in the end times then, and the futility of trying to stop what is already preordained? We are but chess pieces on the board and it's hard to stop playing a game when one isn't even aware of it.

originally posted by: theonenonlyone


Is this the reaction that the anti Muslims wanted?

Whatever it takes to let them know that Islam is not welcome here, sure. Doesn't bother me.

a reply to: EyeKyu

Burn the first amendment, hear hear!

a reply to: theonenonlyone

i live in australia ,all my dirty convict ancestors made this country a great place ,now i find myself abit pissed off . for so many years muslims in australia have cheered the death of jews americanns and pretty much any one that defies allah ,in my area maybe 1 in 30 muslims works they abuse the housing system by having 3 wives supporting them living in 3 separate houses where they collect welfare and give it to the husband . so please tell me how when we investigate people abusing our welfare system and they are favoured over everyone and tell me that when they go to christian schools our crosses are inapropriate that i should stand by and be trod on . not happening sick of this bs . everyone is sick of it besides other muslims . just so you understand my suburb is the melting pot of nations and everyone feels the same , poor you , no poor us

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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: LSU0408

Anybody who raises children to look at people with contempt - biblically speaking, is teaching kids to hate.

~Tenth

So basically anyone who reads the Quran, a.k.a. Muslims, and takes it at face value because it condones and advocates for killing anyone who is not muslim, anyone who becomes an apostate, and for those that commit adultery(whether it was rape or not)