Tashfeen Malik Passed 3 U.S. Gov. Background Checks

I'm sure they will question now whether they should include social media in their background checks.

As mentioned and knowing that it's already included in many employer's employment screening; I feel that some of that boarders on "legal" discrimination(that which is not covered by law-such as disability- but still happens), which could also come into play if Homeland Security decides to check into social media as well. Sure catch the terrorists, no objection there, but it would likely mean everyone has to be checked. Will it affect more than just terrorism? Such as recreation, political leanings, and more?

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

As an employer, our "new-hires" must undergo background and drug testing. We go a bit futher and investigate thier on-line profile (s) ... This is where we loose 71% of viable candidates... whether is denotes excessive boozing, and other social unacceptable behavior..inappropriate language and "pictures" etc.

Maybe we DO need more thorough "All Inclusive" background checks...

So what happens if they don't have social media presence linked to their names?

Also, what about CT topics showing up for example? Is that a red flag? How about political leanings? Surely it would be for some employers that are staunch in beliefs.

Assuming it would be similar for some Homeland security checks, if they chose to do this, probably especially if you mention something about firearms and or related activities, page or otherwise on FB.

The vetting process is much ado about a process that has little information to investigate to begin with unless people actually go to the place where the applicant actually resided and talked to everyone who knew them. If the new arrivals are not ISIS soldiers or radicals just wait for it. If out of 100,000 if only ten want to do the Jihad thing then how many lives will they succeed in taking ? "But, but, the government and NSA will protect us" !

1.In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.

2.In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.

3.In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach. It was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.

4.In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.

5.In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.

6.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.

7.In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males

8.In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.

9.In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.

10.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.

11.In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.

12.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.

13.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon. The other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.

14.In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.

15.In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it---it was a Muslim male. (plus two other American journalists were also beheaded)

16.In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.

Our latest California kid was a US citizen.. Guess his wife should have been named Eve since they are trying to lay much of the blame on her ..IMO you ain't seen nothing yet....

www.thedailybeast.com...

Politicians pander to their voter base to get votes, nothing wrong with that in an assimilated society (key word assimilated society) until the very votes you seek are the same votes that will eventually destroy your country .

rudeau’s key aide helping him nail the Canadian Muslim vote was Omar Alghabra, 46, a Saudi-born Syrian immigrant. Alghabra was once president of the controversial Canadian Arab Foundation which lost government funding in 2009 because of its support for groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, which are officially listed as terrorist groups in Canada. Trudeau just named Alghabra as his Parliamentary Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Consular).

Alghabra once denounced Toronto’s police chief for taking part in a charity walk for Israel and also said the chief’s official visit to Israel was akin to going to meet with Saddam Hussein. When PLO leader Yasser Arafat died, Alghabra put out a press release expressing “sorrow and regret.” He condemned a major Canadian newspaper for using the term “terrorist” to describe Islamist terrorist groups like al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.

The so-called “Toronto 18” were arrested in 2006 before the could carry out planned attacks involving bombs, storming the Parliament, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and beheading the prime minister. According to former NYPD counter-terrorism analyst Mitchell Silber in his book The Al-Qaeda Factor: Plots Against the West, members of this group were also linked to an infamous British jihadist, Aabid Khan, who wanted to use Canada as a staging area for attacks on the United States. Two men in Atlanta, Georgia, were arrested after sending him video of potential targets in and around Washington, D.C.

Algerian-born al-Qaeda member Ahmed Ressam, the so-called “Millennium Bomber,” lived for awhile in Montreal while plotting to bomb Los Angeles International Airport in 1999. Suspicious border agents arrested him after they found explosives in his car on a ferry from Vancouver to Washington State.

It is a little late to be worrying on who you are letting in for if not the new arrivals then their kids or grand kids will be brain washed into believing they will have a great reward for killing non believers. Canada is just another hapless victim of feel good policies which given time will destroy their society as it stands today; much as Europe is experiencing and will continue to experience.. They have figured it out that by force of arms and their backward societies they can not dominate a western society.. No problem out breed the infidels and bide your time.. with Allah's will all will be made right. youtu.be...


In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.

In 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lapanto.

In 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle ofVienna by German and Polish Christian Armies...this crap has been going on for 1,400 years and half of the politicians don't even know it.

a reply to: 727Sky

You are exactly right in that it's a bit late to worry now. But should we just say, "screw it" let everyone in, and save up some money for some "really nice funerals" when something happens again?

I honesty don't know that answer, but it seems as if a change in something is needed. If only attitude.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: forkedtongue
a reply to: IAMTAT

They have just as much of a right to America as any American does.

If a few dozens of American citizens have to die every year so they can come in too bad.

Actually they don't have a right to be here until they are thoroughly vetted and the fact is our procedures don't work. You seem like someone eager to have your fellow American citizens killed. I bet you support Obama. He doesn't care about American citizens either.

LOL, that was satire BTW

Was just using lefty ideology to highlight the ignorance of it all.

No proof said character exists.

Even sister fig ure is lousy actor.

There's a reason controlled opposition secured the term ' info wars'.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: forkedtongue
a reply to: IAMTAT

They have just as much of a right to America as any American does.

If a few dozens of American citizens have to die every year so they can come in too bad.

Actually they don't have a right to be here until they are thoroughly vetted and the fact is our procedures don't work. You seem like someone eager to have your fellow American citizens killed. I bet you support Obama. He doesn't care about American citizens either.

The real truth is, no procedure works, because you can't predict what someone will do in the future necessarily based on their past. You can only see if they've done wrong, and if they haven't, they haven't. It doesn't mean they won't, but there is no scientific way to predict the future -- and honestly, for every Maleek, there is a Timothy Mcveigh or Son of Sam.

Chew on that, mull it over, and when you come up with a way to stop treating currently innocent people as if they are guilty, come back and show us how you predicted someones future actions.

It`s astonishing that they don`t even bother to look at the persons social media when doing background checks.
What better way to find out what a person is really like than to hear it (or in this case read it) from their own mouth.

Why would he not pass 3 background checks? No criminal history and a American citizen too. We also need to be careful about the who thought police idea, that in itself is scarier than terrorist.

Well, they were quick to address this:

Homeland Security wants to use Facebook in visa reviewsText

The Department of Homeland Security is working on a new plan for incorporating social media posts into visa reviews, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal. The details of the new plan are unclear, but the Journal describes it as part of a new focus on social media for the department, which has traditionally focused on legal records in the visa application process.

source

My concern post about this is shared in an above reply.

a reply to: Tardacus
I honestly feel that they should put in at least as much effort as they put into investigating natural citizens. I think they should do more, but there is no excuse for doing less.

I'm confused.

Background checks are supposed to be the magic bullet (Har har, puns) that can put a stop to mass shootings.

But...if Malik - a Pakistani woman who publicly swore allegiance to ISIS on facebook - got through, then so would Dylan Roof, James Holmes, and the rest.

Takeaway here: do not entrust your safety to bureaucrats.

originally posted by: dreamingawake
Well, they were quick to address this:

Homeland Security wants to use Facebook in visa reviewsText

The Department of Homeland Security is working on a new plan for incorporating social media posts into visa reviews, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal. The details of the new plan are unclear, but the Journal describes it as part of a new focus on social media for the department, which has traditionally focused on legal records in the visa application process.

source

My concern post about this is shared in an above reply.

More to add to that:

'There were concerns from a privacy and civil liberties perspective that while this was not illegal, that it would be viewed negatively if it was disclosed publicly,' Cohen told ABC.

It would be viewed negatively. Actually kinda shocked they didn't do it otherwise. NSA has no problem with citizen snooping.

U.S. officials said that because Malik used a pseudonym in her social media posts, it is not clear that even after a full review of her social media posts that her support for terror groups would have become known, ABC reported.

What's the solution then, collecting and viewing ISP records? Can't access all of them if not done in the US however.

More from the article:

Marsha Catron, a DHS spokeswoman, told ABC in the fall of 2014, after Cohen left, DHS initiated three pilot programs to include social media vetting. However, officials said that it is still not a widespread policy and that a review of the broader policy is already under way, according to ABC.

'The Department will continue to ensure that any use of social media in its vetting program is consistent with current law and appropriately takes into account civil rights and civil liberties and privacy protections,' Catron said.

Sou rce - DM

Alright.

I am gonna start dusting off my bunker, and start my prepping plans again.

Unchecked immigration, and that is what this is .

Is not going to end well for ANY of us.

And all for a vote!

God Bless America!

a reply to: neo96
Neo. Your future is really in your own hands. Our government is not going to be able to come to our rescue. I don't think they care about us that much anyway, we are just revenue generators and cannon fodder.

Try to get to know those around you. Make strong communal connections. Regardless to what kind of future that is in store for us, our survival will depend on how well we work together.

Prepare for the worst, and enjoy every second of the beautiful world and time that we are gifted each day. Make beautiful memories that will give you purpose, and maybe a few life lessons to pass down to those that will have to put back the pieces if things do go afoul.

Thing is though, it's very easy to pass security checks.

They let me into Australia, and well, how do I put this... Probably best not to put it any way at all. I've done a lot of crime. Big bad crimes. But I have no criminal record, in any country. Interpol has no idea who I am (I hope). I'm not a terrorist, but I totally could be, if I wanted. (Note to Interpol: I do not want to be a terrorist. Keep moving.)

You see, background checks are obviously important, but if the person has been careful with their smokescreen, or simply have never been caught or associated with people who have been caught, then they'll come up clean and squeaky.

Also, in many countries, there is a beautiful thing called bakshish. You give a little money to a particular person, you get a new name, new passport, new everything. You can get more than one, too. I had five. So it's no wonder that many people will pass criminal checks, even if they probably shouldn't. It's so easy, you'd have to be kind of dumb to get caught up with a background check. Even if Interpol knows your name, knows your face, the guys at the airport won't know what you look like or that your name is different, not unless you've got wanted posters with your face on them all over the world like a total legend.

And many people, they aren't criminals when their background is checked. They become criminals later.

To be honest, if you triple the intensity of security checks, it still probably won't do a damn thing. For many people, Interpol could show up at their door right now, and they'd have nothing.

I made a post explaining the Industry, how terrorists get their weapons and how the trade operates worldwide. We have people with Interpol files on them, but they're still roaming free and doing a thriving business. That's how hard it actually is to pin something on someone. It's so blase I find it funny, there are people flying massive aircraft in and out of sanctioned countries delivering huge loads of guns and ammo, coming and going with a smile, a nod, and a bit of bakshish. Right in Interpol's face. And the Muslim terrorists, they're nothing like gun traders. They actively hide, so it's even harder to find them. Background checks = piece of piss.

a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal
Because some will make if through, you don't just throw open the gates for everyone. Yes, some will be innocent until after the fact, but you will at least have their information on file.

I work in the medical industry and because I have to travel between so many hospitals around the US, my background check was so extensive that the number of three letter agencies I had to be cleared through, was half a page long. All but three I had never beard of.

Now the real reason the check was so thorough is because, the medical field has always been quilty of overkill. I think it is so prone to screw ups that this is their curtain. Dazzle them with sheer fluff.

If everyone coming in got the same raking and stripping that natural citizens get, less active terrorist would get through. Oh, I should add that one of my checks, a while back, included them talking to my old neighbors from when I was in college and my old high school teachers. I am a natural born citizen, my parents and my parents parents are natural born citizens and my maternal grandmother is Native American. So go figure.

US Government vetting questionnaire:

1) Are you a member of ISIS? Y or N
2) Are you going to kill people? Y or N
3) Are you lying? Y or N
4) Seriously now....are you lying? Y or N

Welcome in!

That's about how stupid it is to think we can find the good from the bad.

Has Trump's wife been properly vetted? We probably ought to look in to that. We can't let her too close to the "football" without mindreading her true intentions.