Trump was Right: Illegal From Muslim Country Arrested…Found His Storage Unit

a reply to: Deny Arrogance
No. He said nothing about fixing it. He just wants all Muslims kept out of the country (asylum seekers, immigrants, those on visas and on visa waivers) :

"Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,"

As statement which actually is semantically null but plays well to his audience.

a reply to: stuthealien

we can clearly see ammunition being stockpiled wordwide

Yeah. This guy had a total of 212 rounds of ammunition "stockpiled". Oh, he only had access to 28 of them, the rest had been confiscated by the storage company because he didn't pay his bill.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: tony9802
What, exactly, was Trump right about?

Wow, loads of weapons in a hotel room for which he had paid up to 11,000usd in hotel room fees? This is outrageous..

Ammunition is not the same thing as weapons. No weapons were found in the hotel room (or his storage locker).

I would say where there's smoke, there's fire, only in this case where there's ammo, there's weapons to use the ammo in. Unless your supposition is that he had some odd infatuation with just buying and looking at ammo in general.

Sure no weapons were found, but that doesn't really give me warm fuzzies.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Unless your supposition is that he had some odd infatuation with just buying and looking at ammo in general.

He owned and fired weapons. He bought ammo at a gun range. He still had a small amount of ammo after having disposed of his weapons and gone to a gun range.

I have a box of ammo for a rifle I got rid of long ago. I don't look at it much.

Could it be nefarious? Sure. Guilty until proven innocent. Sure, if you say so.

originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: Phage

sorry i was unaware, i thought it was for something else since they will deport him.

The real question is though why does an illegal alien do ten years in prison on tax payers dime and then get deported. why not just deported?

Because he will go home and not pay for his crimes. They should imprison him and make him pay the bill.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Unless your supposition is that he had some odd infatuation with just buying and looking at ammo in general.

He owned and fired weapons. He bought ammo at a gun range. He still had a small amount of ammo after having disposed of his weapons and gone to a gun range.

I have a box of ammo for a rifle I got rid of long ago. I don't look at it much.

Could it be nefarious? Sure. Guilty until proven innocent. Sure, if you say so.

Guilty all around, nefarious or not. US law says illegals can't own ammo or arms. Pretty cut and dry to me. Sorry if he can't understand the laws of the country he is illegally residing in.

My concern is that he had no concern for the laws. Is it your opinion that he had concern for whom he sold or disposed of the weapons to? I have a hard time trying to picture him making sure they didn't get in the wrong hands seeing as he didn't care about the laws in the first place.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Guilty all around, nefarious or not.

Yes. Guilty of overstaying his visa. Guilty of possesing ammunition.

Sorry if he can't understand the laws of the country he is illegally residing in.

Understand them or be aware of them. Doesn't really matter though.

My concern is that he had no concern for the laws.

You never broke a law? I have. Does than mean I have "no concern for the laws?"

I have a hard time trying to picture him making sure they didn't get in the wrong hands seeing as he didn't care about the laws in the first place.

Yeah, well. It seems to be pretty hard to keep guns out of "the wrong hands", don't it?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Because he will go home and not pay for his crimes. They should imprison him and make him pay the bill.

Are you prescient?
He is facing up to ten years in federal prison.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Unless your supposition is that he had some odd infatuation with just buying and looking at ammo in general.

He owned and fired weapons. He bought ammo at a gun range. He still had a small amount of ammo after having disposed of his weapons and gone to a gun range.

I have a box of ammo for a rifle I got rid of long ago. I don't look at it much.

Could it be nefarious? Sure. Guilty until proven innocent. Sure, if you say so.

Nefarious or not, if he can not legally own weapons in the US, then it's a crime. Maybe blown out of proportion, but a crime.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Because he will go home and not pay for his crimes. They should imprison him and make him pay the bill.

Are you prescient?
He is facing up to ten years in federal prison.

Yes, someone asked why put him in prison, why not just send him home. So I replied if they did that he could commit a crime and suffer no consequence. That's a bad thing.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Ah.
I see now.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Ah.
I see now.

Yes, out of context, I can see how you interpreted my post the way you did.

a reply to: tony9802

So many people are trying to justify the actions of this criminal. I hope he gets put away for the maximum sentence and then deported to a nuclear waste dump.

a reply to: Metallicus

So many people are trying to justify the actions of this criminal.

Name one.

Or did you mean Trump?

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Phage

Trump pointed out that they are serious flaws in the current visa system that are allowing terrorists through.

Trump was right and this is just more evidence that he is right but you played dumb and asked what he was right about.

Oh! Oh!

My turn!

Oh, I love the "I'm right!," game!

"There are serious flaws in the M.E. foreign policy that results in civilian casualties."

I'm right! I'm right! I'm right!

Hahahaha, so *%#^+%# what?

Trump gets to wear a "Gold Star," because his purposefully vague statement was correct!

Yeah! Make America Great Again!

Now how does the Great Don plan on alleviating this issue?

Oh, that's right - build a wall. Lol, I cannot WAIT to see this wall - they will be building it into space, right? That why no airplanes can come in?

But what happens when illegal immigrants simply migrate to a different area of access to enter America that's not the border?

Oh! I know the answer! Let's surround the ENTIRE UNITED STATES with a GIANT wall to keep EVERYONE out!

Whoa! Two gold stars, baby!

a reply to: Metallicus

Oddly enough I didn't see anybody justifying the accused's actions.

I did see people vehemently disagreeing with the OP's position that somehow this incident has vindicated Trump's comments and ideas, but nothing like you're suggesting.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Guilty all around, nefarious or not.

Yes. Guilty of overstaying his visa. Guilty of possesing ammunition.

Sorry if he can't understand the laws of the country he is illegally residing in.

Understand them or be aware of them. Doesn't really matter though.

My concern is that he had no concern for the laws.

You never broke a law? I have. Does than mean I have "no concern for the laws?"

I have a hard time trying to picture him making sure they didn't get in the wrong hands seeing as he didn't care about the laws in the first place.

Yeah, well. It seems to be pretty hard to keep guns out of "the wrong hands", don't it?

I would hazard a guess that if I were to be allowed into a country with certain restrictions and wanted to stay in that country, I would understand and know that country's laws.

I would also hazard a guess that simple common sense based off of knowing countries around the world have been talking about US gun laws, that these would be of particular importance to my legality should I decide to purchase and sell firearms.

Yes, while his intention may not have been to sell weapons to a terrorist, they were still nefarious and the obvious link his actions would draw would likely be a terrorist connection.

Illegal Muslim immigrant with ammo and had weapons but no longer has them. I'd say that is a pretty strong case for concern.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I would hazard a guess that if I were to be allowed into a country with certain restrictions and wanted to stay in that country, I would understand and know that country's laws.

In general, sure. Knowing that it is illegal for an illegal alien to possess ammunition? That's sort of fine detail. Maybe he knew, maybe not. Of course, he did tell the investigators that he had the ammo when asked.

the obvious link his actions would draw would likely be a terrorist connection.

Of course it would. Why?

Illegal Muslim immigrant with ammo and had weapons but no longer has them. I'd say that is a pretty strong case for concern.

First, he was not an immigrant. Second, are you sure he's Muslim? Third, what if he had been a Christian student who had overstayed his student visa? Or a Hindu? Or a Buddhist? Sikh? No problem?

1) Emirate here ILLEGALLY
2) Disposes of weapons...to unknown buyers or sources or places
3) Has enough cash flow to blow 11,000 on hotel and accommodations
4) Came in on student Visa in 2013


I'd say it's worthy of investigation...