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Arabs, Muslim detainees can sue Bush-era officials over post-Sept. 11 treatment

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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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www.reuters.com...


Arab and Muslim former detainees who say they faced harsh jail conditions due to their faith and ethnicity following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks can pursue a lawsuit against former top U.S. law enforcement officials, a sharply divided federal appeals court ruled on Friday.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York voted 6-6 not to hear the case again before the entire court, leaving in place an earlier decision from a three-judge panel. A majority of the court’s active judges must approve such a rehearing, known as an “en banc” review.


I'm no lawyer and this article confuses me but I guess the (GITMO?) detainees can pursue lawsuits against the Bush administration for being falsely imprisoned. Seems ridiculous they have to be allowed to sue but I guess this is progress.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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Seems ridiculous they have to be allowed to sue but I guess this is progress.


More ridiculous that they were scapegoats for the implementation of the Patriot Act..?




posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: Swills

We the people, the Europeans, Iraqis and Syrian Refugees should also sue Bush era officials for contributing to the rise of ISIS.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: Swills

I believe that they were not America citizens so for them to sue, first they have to be allowed to do so by US court, or second they have to do use international courts for that.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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can pursue lawsuits against the Bush administration
which means the tax payers right? because that`s who will have to pay. I seriously doubt that any member of the bush administration will be loosing any money out of pocket.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:56 PM
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They shouldn't have been Muslim, then they wouldn't have been sent to Gitmo...No Judge will hear the case, Maybe their Sharia court will give them 72 virgins?

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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

And that is the truth, but if this is allowed it will not stop with the detainees, right now Iraq has been trying to sue the US for a number of issues base on the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: BestinShow

The whole thing is ridiculous.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

I'll support that.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

That makes sense.

Laws and stuff, makes my head itch.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Why the tax payers gonna flip the bill if the lawsuit is against certain people and not the state?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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They shouldn't have been Muslim? What does that even mean? By the articles headline, some judge somewhere will be hearing their case.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: SPECULUM

They shouldn't have been Muslim? What does that even mean? By the articles headline, some judge somewhere will be hearing their case.
No they wont, not in the US anyway..Lol



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Tardacus

Why the tax payers gonna flip the bill if the lawsuit is against certain people and not the state?

It's against the government, not individuals. What funds the government?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:36 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Sounds like they're going against former gov't officials, not the gov't.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 12:32 AM
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WOW! That's what passes for journalism today? I've read it three times and can't make heads nor tails of it. Can't find other sources for the story.
Yes, if you intend to sue the government, you must first obtain their permission to do so. See Sovereign Immunity.
www.lectlaw.com...



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Sounds like they're going against former gov't officials, not the gov't.


Former government officials can't be sued for actions taken in carrying out the duties of their office. Sovereign Immunity again. If these plaintiffs win, we all pay the settlement and the interest on the debt incurred to pay the settlement.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Sounds like they're going against former gov't officials, not the gov't.

Who acted under orders from the administration. In the end it would be the tax payer footing any bill.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 04:38 AM
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With writing like yours, maybe you need solitary confinement, and 72 textbooks!



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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Ridiculous?


Sorry but many got picked up and TORTUED because of either wrong identification or being handed in by neighbours for a quick dollar even though they did NOTHING. Forget civil suites there should be criminal charged brought in some cases.

Imagine if one day you got picked up at a airport, shackled and drugged, flown to secret prison and tortured and were you are chain to a floor in your own filth for months on end and forced to eat rotton food and putrid water, subjected to sleep deprivation and water boarding all because it turns out some dip # CIA agent got your name muddle up? Im sure you would want compensation right? Cause that EXACTLY what happened to this guy .

The CIA destroyed this innocent mans life and many others. Least they can do is fess up and pay up. Personal responsibility and all.
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