NLBS 03.07: Radical Right Wing Terrorism; That's Right, We Said it.

a reply to: introvert

Lol, so youre comparing all people with differing views, specifically right wingers who dont appreciate being called terrorists due to a few nubags with...privilaged, fat whimpering babies?

That's rich, way to stir the division while keeping hypocricy alive and well.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Willtell
Right wing terrorism is not far from Jihadi terrorism and of course it’s underplayed here.


McVeigh, Roof, this guy, some dead abortion doctors, and many bombings, bank robberies and many many others are as dangerous as jihadis and definitely get underplayed here

Considering that 911 was definitely an inside job the right terrorism is far ahead of jihadi in the US itself.

Bank robberies? Well hell I guess lets blame the right for every little thing huh?

What is your opinion of the Weather Underground, Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) or Earth First I wonder..

During the 1980s, more than 75 right-wing extremists were prosecuted in the United States for acts of terrorism, although they carried out only six attacks during the decade.[23] In 1983, Gordon Kahl, a Posse Comitatus activist, killed two federal marshals and was later killed by police. Also that year, the white nationalist revolutionary group

The Order (also known as the Brüder Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood) robbed several banks and armored cars, as well as a sex shop;[24] bombed a theater and a synagogue; and murdered radio talk show host Alan Berg.[25][26]

This whole thing just reminded me of something. I had a very heated debate years ago, like forty years ago, when people tried to blame the actions of a very small percentage of people on 'mass media'.

Think about that. MASS media influencing only a very small percentage of those exposed to it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it cant be that influential if it only affects such a small percentage of the people who are exposed to it, and even then only those with some other condition making them susceptible to it.

This sounds just like the scenario I argued against back then. It was the PMRC trying to convince the world that listening to heavy metal music makes healthy, happy, well adjusted teenagers commit suicide and/or worship satan. Good old Tipper Gore and her cronies were all up in arms over a kid who listened to Ozzy Ozbourne before killing himself. Of course, it was Ozzy's fault. Forget the fact that millions of people listened to his music without harmful effects.

I even received one of their pamphlets. It had utterly brilliant things in it like the reason teenagers spray paint the names of their favorite heavy metal bands on the support columns for bridges and highways. The reason? Because they are close to the ground and that is where satan lives...

Think of the number of people who are exposed to the propaganda compared to how few are influenced to acts of violence by it. It simply doesn't add up. There is no amount of skewed statistics that could account for what the real numbers should be if the theory is correct.

a reply to: theNLBS

i mean look at him, its like expecting the old guy from duck dynasty not to be homophobe

a reply to: theNLBS

Are we going to expect an unbiased Left Wing terrorism BULL# episode? Or are sensitivities in Left wingers too high for that?

You know, like the people from Black Lives Matter, and other Black Liberation Movements who have shot and killed police officers, who have attacked people etc?... Or is there too much sensitivity for posting the Left Wing radicalization in America?...

For example...

Another Police Officer Murdered. Is It Time To Classify Black Lives Matter As A Hate Group?

You want to talk about inspiration for hatred? All the BS from Left Winger groups calling for "re-education camps", for white people to beg forgiveness for being white. The calls of hatred, death threats, etc against anyone who is not part of a Left wing group...

Heck, what about the fact that the Obama administration is simply labeling people as "possible extremists/possible terrorists" for being pro-second amendment, for being conservative, or republican, or libertarian, for being against any of Obama's policies, etc? What about that hatred which the government is perpetrating against all Americans who happen to lean politically to the right?...

Are we going to expect a BS episode similar, with the same tone, the same claims to this one, or not? ...



We should label all Left wing hatred as inciting violence as well right?...

originally posted by: Vroomfondel


Good old Tipper Gore and her cronies were all up in arms over a kid who listened to Ozzy Ozbourne before killing himself

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That woman is an absolute idiot with an agenda. As they say, Birds of a feather flock together. Al Gore flocked with her. Remember that goofy french kiss in front of the world? I about puked. Bush made me sick, but Gore made me deathly ill. Some of the complete nonsence Al Gore has come up with..... He is retarded, and there are other retarded people that believe in him. Old Ronald Reragan was a fool to close the mental wards all over the US. It flooded the streets with mental looney leftist quacks.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You know, like the people from Black Lives Matter, and other Black Liberation Movements who have shot and killed police officers, who have attacked people etc?.

Show us where any Blacklivesmatter people shot-up and killed police officers, betchya can't

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: introvert

Lol, so youre comparing all people with differing views, specifically right wingers who dont appreciate being called terrorists due to a few nubags with...privilaged, fat whimpering babies?

That's rich, way to stir the division while keeping hypocricy alive and well.

No. You're reading far too deep in to it.

What I am saying is that sometimes we all have to take our hits. It's a given.

What matters is how we react to it.

So far it appears that some would like to roll on the ground and be a pansy, instead of brushing it off, learning from your mistakes and preparing yourself much better for the next big hit, and continually complaining about the hit they just received.

a reply to: Spider879

Are you blind? or did you conveniently ignored the link I gave?...

You know how many police officers have been murdered in 2015 alone? Just police officers.

A.C. Spollen

New York
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This marks the 83rd law enforcement officer to have died in the line of duty so far in 2015, the 4th to have been shot and killed in the past 8 days. In all, 83 police officers have lost their lives doing nothing more than going to work to support their families.

All the while, Black Lives Matter chants “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon!” and “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want them? Now!” yet they refuse to take responsibility that perhaps their rhetoric may somehow be linked.
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journal.ijreview.com...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Blackllivesmatter people didn't murdered those cops, I know you were gonna go there. lol

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Kali74
Holy crap.

Where do we go from here?

Insane?

Firebombing Mosques apparently...

a reply to: introvert

So you want all 'right wingers' to learn from their 'mistakes', THEIR mistake that some crazy dude shot up a PP?

REALLY wide brush being used, as always.

This is the problem. Youre just not going to get the groveling on the floor apology that you think you and the rest of the world deserves, by the people you hate.. Insults definately will never make any apology or 'understaning' happen either.

But good luck!

So, are we going to blame all left winger hate talk for the murders of the 83 police officers in 2015 alone? Or are we not to see left wingers in the same regards as they want to blame all Americans who lean to the right, who are against abortion, etc?...

If you don't trust the link i gave above here is another one...

Black Lives Matter Chant Called ‘Disgusting’ By Police Leader
August 30, 2015 10:22 PM By Bill Hudson

ST. PAUL, Minn. (WCCO) — Traffic disruptions and loud messages aren’t the only things memorable about Saturday’s Black Lives Matter march to the gates of the Minnesota State Fair.
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But along the way, protesters broke into a pointed refrain that has St. Paul police officers upset.

Marchers chanted in unison, “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon.”

What officers and many others find offensive is also protected free speech. But in this particular case what is ironic is that those voicing the chant were also being protected by very officers targeted.

“Statements and chants like that are just ignorant – I find it absolutely disgusting,” Officer Titus said.

Titus called the protester’s chant both dangerous and outrageous. All the more so Titus says, because it came just hours after a Texas deputy was gunned down in cold blood.

“I don’t think chanting or singing what’s basically promoting killing police officers is peaceful,” Titus said.

Black Lives Matter organizer Rashad Turner says there’s a big difference between rhetorical chanting and somebody’s actions.

“It definitely wasn’t a threat. I don’t know if they would have received it differently if we would have said on a stick. We’re there chanting, using our voices,” Turner said.
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Let's see what the Black Lives Matter organizer said again about the threats made by the protesters against police officers...

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Black Lives Matter organizer Rashad Turner says there’s a big difference between rhetorical chanting and somebody’s actions.
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minnesota.cbslocal.com...

So left wingers who participate in such protests are not going to be held accountable for the murder of police officers, but left wingers want to hold accountable EVERYONE who leans to the right in politics, even when they don't participate in hate talk, and don't call for the deaths of other people?...

a reply to: Wookiep

Now look at us, this is ridiculous. All hell is breaking loose, have we all lost our minds? Why is ATS choosing this direction? I had always felt this was a good place to escape, where people knew the REAL issues, and we could talk about them here without being insulted, or labeled a 'conspiracy nut' etc every other post.

This is insane, I'm bummed Ats ownership has picked its side, now look at this place!

What side is it that you think they have taken? I'd call it the side that says that all religious extremism is bad and we should be able to address both and not ignore on because of the other — or worse, let one of them continue to creep further into the mainstream.

There are more Christian fanatics in this country who embrace an extremist version of Christianity than there are Muslims in total in this country. One of them (Ted Cruz) is trying to become our President.

Yet it's not politically correct to talk about Christian extremism.

Funny how us christian terrorists don't call for a Fatwa after people do things like this:

Holy Smokes!

Unlike them other terrorists that throw a hissy fit for cartoons.

a reply to: Wookiep

So you want all 'right wingers' to learn from their 'mistakes', THEIR mistake that some crazy dude shot up a PP?

Why did that crazy dude shoot-up a PP? Could it be because he was exposed to Right Wing propaganda? Are you intellectually honest enough to consider that possibility? If Left wing nuts can be moved by Left Wing propaganda, surely Right Wing nuts can be moved by Right Wing propaganda, right?

This is the problem. Youre just not going to get the groveling on the floor apology that you think you and the rest of the world deserves, by the people you hate.. Insults definately will never make any apology or 'understaning' happen either.

I don't want an apology. I want people to learn from their mistakes and conduct themselves in a way that does not repeat the same idiotic behavior over and over again.

You assume too much and the insults received have been earned.

Take your "hits" and stop calling for the trainer to pull you off the field.

a reply to: introvert

Why did that crazy dude shoot-up a PP?

Hey go ask her.

And yeah I did say her cause that's on her voting record.

a reply to: neo96

Funny how us christian terrorists don't call for a Fatwa after people do things like this:

A fatwā (Arabic: فتوى‎; plural fatāwā Arabic: فتاوى‎) in the Islamic faith is the term for the legal opinion or learned interpretation that the Sheikhul Islam, a qualified jurist or mufti, can give on issues pertaining to the Islamic law.[1] The person who issues a fatwā is called, in that respect, a Mufti, i.e. an issuer of fatwā, from the verb أَفْتَى 'aftā = "he gave a formal legal opinion on". This is not necessarily a formal position since most Muslims argue that anyone trained in Islamic law may give an opinion (fatwā) on its teachings. If a fatwā does not break new ground, then it is simply called a ruling.[2]

Plenty of Christians have given their legal opinion on P christ, but I don't know if they were terrorists.

Did you mean something other than Fatwa?

a reply to: theantediluvian

There is no PC movent which states you can't talk about christian extremism. I think many people disagree thats its some rampant plague like many (perhaps you?)keep insinuating. We had a single incident recently, Ill hand that to you even though I have my doubts he was christian.

This is similar to all the cries of rampant white on black racism, when really the opposite is what's seemingly the real prevalent issue.

I won"t stray into that, but i think to try and compare christian 'extremism' to muslim extremism, to even put them in the same class is ridiculous, and a lot of folks are frustrated with that accusation, it does't make christians or right wingers terrorists. All it does is piss people off.

There are MILLIONS of black christians, and we know statistically that the majority of blacks are dems, are they terrorists too?

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Blackllivesmatter people didn't murdered those cops, I know you were gonna go there. lol

Yeah? you knew it? Yet, first of all you, along some others want to blame all Americans who lean to the right in politics for what a few deranged individuals do, even when the majority of Americans who lean to the right in politics do not call for the killing of pro-abortion doctors, or anyone else...

Second, that second link I gave shows that ALL of the Black Lives Matter protesters chanted in unison to “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon!”...

Here is a video of Black Lives Matter protesters calling for the deaths of police officers right now...